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The lottery has been voted to start next season, but there's no reason that we can't do a live draft on the board if people want to.
Proposed: Starting at the conclusion of this discussion/vote we begin a live draft on the board. I propose that it be strictly voluntary, that is, if someone doesn't respond we don't skip them.
Thoughts?
Love the Idea of live draft.
All you guys with medium picks should love it more too. there won't be guys you don't list because "they can't possibly fall" who get taken as a sleeper 5 picks later.
If we start the live draft within a few days it would really make it easy. we do have a bit of time considering the fastest the play-offs can take is 16 days.
I like the idea of a live draft as well. Let's do it...
i'm down for alive draft.
but do any positions change depending on who advances and/or wins it all or are they set in stone due to how you did during the regular season?
I am not in favor of live draft simply because I do not think it can get done in the timeframe we have based on the time it took the initial draft. What do you do if the time for the draft in the system has passed and we are not finished?
Well maybe there's some problem here that I'm not seeing, but this is the way I look at it:
Scott doesn't want to have to manually place all the draftees, so whatever we do, eveyone is still going to have to fill out their draft selection(s) in game anyway. So, let's suppose we start a live draft and we get stalled out on pick 12. What does that mean? Nothing. Everyone who picked before 12 fills in their draft list to get the guys they picked on the board, and everyone after 12 fills in their list with their choices just as if we hadn't done the live draft at all.
There are some potential problems with this scenario. Suppose that I choose a guy with my 4th pick and then everyone posts about how much of an idiot I am, so I decide to change my pick on my real draft list in game. That could completely throw off the rest of the draft for everyone behind me. I both took a player someone else drafted, and let one fall that no one anticipated.
I think the way this ought to be handled is this:
</font><ul type="square">[*]<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">We consider this a practice run for when we do the lottery.</font>[*]<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">No one will be skipped if they don't make a draft selection this time. The live draft will just end if someone doesn't pick and everyone behind them will just fill out their draft lists like normal.</font>[*]<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">However, if you do make a pick in the live draft you are bound to it and if you pick another player instead, you will have to trade the player to the team who drafted him.</font>[/list]<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">If everyone agrees that the draft is binding, then the proper way to fill out your draft list is:
1. The guy you picked in the draft.
2-10. Players who were drafted ahead of your position.
This way if someone does make an error and chooses your guy, you will pick up the player he was supposed to take minimizing the number of trades needed to correct the problem.
Lets go...
I think it's an excellent idea. Let's get it going!
<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">First of all, Graffin, that's a freaky avatar.Quote:
Originally posted by Graffin:
As for the timeframe - Lets do it the way we did the original draft, with a bigger time limit (perhaps 48 hours)....That should still mean we get 15-25 picks done, and those toppicks are the most important IMO...So lets get it as far along the way as we can, and then use the normal method from there.
Second. I like having a time limit, but how do we deal with someone who doesn't pick on time? With the initial draft we had to submit a list to Scott who put the players on the teams. In this draft if we skip someone they'll still be filling out their own draft list. If they disagree with being skipped they can still put whoever they want on their draft list and the game will put them on their team thus messing up everyone behind them. I just put the part about not having a time limit to avoid the hassle of dealing with these kind of problems.
Do you think that we'll be able to work everything out properly if we skip someone's spot in this draft?
If someone cannot agree and refuses to abide by the rules - even after they agreed to follow the processes outlined before joining - then they should not be allowed to continue in the league. That is a very simple way to solve the problem
i thought all drafts were gonna be live
As for the timeframe - Lets do it the way we did the original draft, with a bigger time limit (perhaps 48 hours)....That should still mean we get 15-25 picks done, and those toppicks are the most important IMO...So lets get it as far along the way as we can, and then use the normal method from there.
Problems and all - I'm all for the live draft...
<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">That is true for every draft after this one. This one may or may not be live depending on how this discussion goes.Quote:
Originally posted by douglass:
i thought all drafts were gonna be live
Could see this one turning really nasty if someone gets something wrong but I'll keep quiet as I don't even have a first round pick.
I hate continuing a discussion while the vote is in progress, but something just occured to me. We could make it a bit more forgiving by doing the following:
If someone misses their deadline then instead of getting skipped they get the lowest numbered guy who's still available -- just like how the game works if you don't put in your list of players.
Thoughts?
<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">Sounds good to me...Quote:
Originally posted by TuringComplete:
If someone misses their deadline then instead of getting skipped they get the lowest numbered guy who's still available -- just like how the game works if you don't put in your list of players.
Thoughts?
Shouldnt this have come up in the middle of the season rather than now?
I actually would have been in favor if we had addressed it earlier. I think having a draft done where it is one way for some and another way for others is asking for trouble.
Not having thw whole thing live will be asking for trouble
In the future we should be able to start our drafts once the playoffs start - ensuring we get through it in enough time (we can alter the times and stuff if we find out in this round that it doesn't work). However today we have to make do - this is the trial run, in a sense.
<font size="3" face="Sylfaen, Verdana, Helvetica">Why? It seems to me to be a pretty easy transition. When time runs out for the live draft, the rest of the picks just get done like they normally would. What problems do you see?Quote:
Originally posted by douglass:
Not having thw whole thing live will be asking for trouble
The original draft should have been a trail the trail run. It leaves to much room for error. If someone doesnt like there pick they choose on here it could mess the whole thing up plus after it does go to computer. everybody should be able to see who got picked before them