Make this happen !!!, glam rock revival rant

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June 5th, 2005, 12:29 AM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

Share what is left of this rock n roll thing, and make it BIGGER, what good does keeping these tapes, and videos, to yourselves, rock n roll was never meant for one person--- if it was,, it would not have been very successful,,,,IF YOU WANT THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN, DO YOUR PART, spread the word, spread the music, we have so many people that love this shit, forget about your little collection, and what you have that no one else can have, this is what holds underground music back, do you think underground success is created by greed ????, use you all of your resources,, put glam everywhere you possibly can..........get it, do it, love you all,, bye

[ June 04, 2005 09:44 PM: Message edited by: NEVER ON SUNDAY ]
June 5th, 2005, 12:35 AM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

Quote:

Originally posted by NEVER ON SUNDAY:
Share what is left of this rock n roll thing, and make it larger, what good does keeping these tapes and videos to yourselves, rock n roll was never meant for one person--- if it was it would not have been very successful,,,,IF YOU WANT THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AGAIN, DO YOUR PART, spread the word, spread the music, we have so many people that love this shit, forget about your little collection, and what you have that no one else can, this is what holds it back, do you think underground success is created by greed ????, use you all of your resources to put glam everywhere you possibly can..........get it, do it, love you all

oh yeah,,,,HOLLYWOOD WILL HAVE IT'S REVENGE
June 5th, 2005, 12:48 AM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

love your responses guys and girls, is this kinda the same as not speaking up an' lettin george bush bomb the world, no wonder our choices suck, MAKE WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN A REALITY THROUGH ACTIONS, NOT SOME STUPID DREAMS ABOUT THE PAST, THE PAST IS GONE, TIME TO MAKE A FUTURE, BE THE VOICE OF ROCK N ROLL !!!!
June 5th, 2005, 12:54 AM
MARKYGLAM

GREG, YA'RE NEW TO THE BOARD AND PERHAPS YA DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE HELPED FROM HERE TO KEEP THE SCENE LIVE!!! I DON'T WANT TO BE ARROGANT, BUT I CAN NAME HUNDREDS OF BANDS WHICH ARE KNOWN CUZ I'VE BEEN TRANSFERRING STUFF AND SHARING 'EM ALL THESE YEARS!!! AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER GNETS HERE IN THE SAME CONDITION!!!
June 5th, 2005, 01:01 AM
A Katt Named Raggz

Agreed with Marky...there are some on here that do bigtime demo trades and just passing music to be heard. Music that we all think is cool.
and I don't mean the fast-money people that only place this music on ebay. Screw ebay...I've said it before, anyone needing something and I happen to have...screw the $100dollar bids some of this stuff is going for...if I have it...a cdr copy I'll give....FREE!!!!...my favorite word..hahaha.
Sometimes I see these demos and cds on ebay going for $150 or so...and I wanna email the bidder and tell them I'll make a copy free.

[ June 04, 2005 10:04 PM: Message edited by: A Katt Named Raggz ]
June 5th, 2005, 01:21 AM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

THIS WAS NOT AIMED AT THE PEOPLE WHO DO SHARE,,,,,, IT WAS AIMED AT THE ONES WHO DONT, IS IT YOUR MISSION IN LIFE TO BE THE LAST GLAM ROCK FAN ON THE PLANET ????????....WE ARE A DYING BREAD GET IT ?????? WHAT I AM SAYIN' MAKE MORE SITES, LINK D-LOADS, PUT YOUR NAMES IN SEARCH ENGINES, MAKE MUSIC,MAKE RECORDS, VIDEOS, WHATEVER YOU CAN ..............MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE
June 5th, 2005, 02:51 AM
A Katt Named Raggz

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June 5th, 2005, 05:17 AM
Hairglamfan

Quote:

Originally posted by A Katt Named Raggz:
Agreed with Marky...there are some on here that do bigtime demo trades and just passing music to be heard. Music that we all think is cool.
and I don't mean the fast-money people that only place this music on ebay. Screw ebay...I've said it before, anyone needing something and I happen to have...screw the $100dollar bids some of this stuff is going for...if I have it...a cdr copy I'll give....FREE!!!!...my favorite word..hahaha.
Sometimes I see these demos and cds on ebay going for $150 or so...and I wanna email the bidder and tell them I'll make a copy free.

[ June 04, 2005 10:04 PM: Message edited by: A Katt Named Raggz ]

Quite Right Marc, you summed it up.
June 5th, 2005, 07:42 AM
Andii Vamp

Good god, what the fuck?

Glam isn't JUST about hollywood you know? It sounded rather ignorant to me... maybe that is just me but fucking hell, there are glam bands all around the world. True I love the hollywood bands that have happened and are still happening but I just think you need to realize Glam isn't JUST fucking Hollywood.

Just my 2 pennies and no offense [img]smile.gif[/img]
June 5th, 2005, 08:04 AM
Andii Vamp

Oh and i agree with Marky... we try hard to keep the glam scene alive here. Fuck, that is why the majority of us are here anyway.

I apologise if you took offense to my previous post, I just wanted to state that Glam isn't JUST Hollywood you know?
June 5th, 2005, 08:16 AM
SylGlamboy

Hi Greg,
I agree with you about promoting and talkin' about all these bands we love. But I think that most of the glamsters users on this board, have their own little private collection like you said and that they're talkin', sharin' a lot with each other and so doin' all they can to promote bands.
Personnaly I tried to speak the most I can of my passion for that music, the bands & so on, on various website (www.hardrock80.com : which is a french website dedicated to all kind of hardrock/metal music : I'm always givin' news, doin' reviews of albums/shows on this one), and/or tryin' to share with most of people.
I'm not in the music business, just a fan. And I often have the occasion to meet fans at shows, on boards. I think that glam community is small (or underground) but it keeps on livin' well and there's a huge fanbase.
When I'm doin' boots trade with american people who are into great 80's bands (like Poison, Kix, Cinderella), I always talk to them about the actual european scene : Scandinavian bands, italian bands, UK bands & so on. When I'm goin' to Spain, if my friends who are into Backyard babies and Velvet Revolver, don't know classic stuff (to me) like Pretty Boy Floyd, Vain, Big Bang Babies then I tried to come with one or two cd copies. Like that I met new friends at the Backyard show in Barcelona, who came that the Glam Slam.
Here I gave an example, these are the last 3 reviews I put on www.hardrock80.com :
Nasty idols - Cruel intentions
Bad Way - From zero to hero
Jerry Vayne - Disillusions of Grandeur

All these 3 ones album can be find easily on the web for few euros/$ & I personnaly just discovered Jerry Vayne album recnetly coz of Glitzine...
So I just wanted to say that I keep on discovering many bands becoz of Glitzine and of the people who makes this site/board essential.

And I totay agree with Andii, Hollywood scene was great/there're still some interesting bands but what about Bastardz from Brazil, Starry eyes from Italy, Robin Black & the IRS from Canada, the Highschool Motherfuckers from France, Hell City Glamours from Australia, Vains of Jenna from Sweden... tons of awesome bands all around the globe !
Sorry for make it so long...
June 5th, 2005, 08:20 AM
Andii Vamp

Exactly! We have glam bands from all over and we do our best to promote it here too.

As for Jerry Vayne.. man, I miss that guy BIG time... a regular poster here once and in my opinion, a great friend and always will be and his album smokes!

We do our best here to keep the flame alive.
June 5th, 2005, 10:01 AM
RaivenVainn

Does England have any Glam bands left? I can't think of any except the Darkness (If they even count lol)
June 5th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Buttz

The 80's Glam revival started in Soho London in 1982. There was not a Yank in sight for months.
June 5th, 2005, 11:30 AM
glamster7

Got to agree with Andii, Marc etc. This board does a great job of spreading the glam/sleaze word. Have to agree with Andii about hollywood not being the only scene. As Buttz stated the UK scene in the 80's was great ( I was often found in London, Newcastle & many other places) on the weekend. Scandanavia has a pretty happening scene at the moment if i remember rightly
June 5th, 2005, 12:18 PM
LeeRatbag

Quote:

Originally posted by Buttz:
The 80's Glam revival started in Soho London in 1982. There was not a Yank in sight for months.

And the funny thing was, it seemed to be mostly comprised of disgruntled ex-punks than heavy metal types.... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
June 5th, 2005, 03:42 PM
glamgirlk

I ABSOULUTELY LOVE GLAM ROCK!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately all I am famailiar with is the stuff that came from the 80s. If anybody wants to share anything or suggest anything I am all ears. In my house or at my work its ALWAYS ROCK.
June 5th, 2005, 04:04 PM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

I agree, Hollywod had it's time, Europe seems to be doin much better now than the U.S., look at Sweden and the Backyrad Babies, I had worked like 20 hours the past couple days, had a couple drinks....a lil tired,,,a lil insane in my rant.........,however there are some traders out there who only care about making there own collections better and nothin else,(this is where the anger comes from)........anyways, i am excited to say i am starting to see somethin starting to build in the states, w/ Crue, VR and more importantly I think Liquor and Poker Music, I think maybe the time is now, and i think it may take everyone Fans, Musicians, Promoters, Labels - all doing their part, every little thing counts, thats all

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June 6th, 2005, 12:51 AM
KennyHopeless

KENNYBOY! Records hopes to do its part to spread the rock n roll word, with the release of "Pills An' Thrills" coming in July '05.........McRackins, Dead Famous, Hundred Million Martians, Gutter Posies, Suckerstarz, etc..........

contact [email protected]
June 6th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Sandy-Hazard

Hollywood?...Canada IMO has some of the coolest Glam/Sleaze bands of late to come out.

Black Halos
Crystal Pistol
Robin Black
Crash Kelly
The Sinisters
Chinatown

To name a few. I do my best to spread the word of cool bands to people. A lot of ppl on this board, myself included, trade or give stuff to people that we think is cool.

Music goes in cycles. Right now the whole new wavey Killers, Hot Hot Heat, Interpol bands are the flavour of the labels. Glam/Trash rock is gradually making a comeback. There needs to be one band to push it over the edge as with any genre. The new Black Halos CD from what I've heard so far sounds awesome.

Andii, Isn't the only musician from the UK Rick Astley?...ROFL
June 6th, 2005, 01:35 AM
Sandy-Hazard

Quote:

Originally posted by KennyHopeless:
KENNYBOY! Records hopes to do its part to spread the rock n roll word, with the release of "Pills An' Thrills" coming in July '05.........McRackins, Dead Famous, Hundred Million Martians, Gutter Posies, Suckerstarz, etc..........

contact [email protected]

Hey Kenny, glad you liked the tunes! That was fast, I sent it on Monday.
June 6th, 2005, 01:53 AM
RaivenVainn

Quote:

Originally posted by Hazardous:
There needs to be one band to push it over the edge as with any genre.

Murderdolls would be that band if Joey Jordison would stop pissing around with Slipknot
June 6th, 2005, 03:34 AM
A Katt Named Raggz

I have to agree that Glam is all around the world, not just in the states. Hell, in my opinion, The best glam at the moment seems to be coming out of Sweden, Finland, and Paris. Check out Gemini Five,Negative,Private Line, Undercover Slut, Vains Of Jenna, HIM, Babylon Bombs, and etc.
June 6th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Andii Vamp

"Andii, Isn't the only musician from the UK Rick Astley?...ROFL"

Now come on Sandy... don't go having a pop at poor old Astley. It isn't HIS fault `Never Gonna GIve You Up` was his only hit [img]wink.gif[/img]
June 6th, 2005, 06:53 AM
Sandy-Hazard

If there is a band to break...I'd like it to be Cheerleadr as they have this totally "don't give a shit attitude about anything except Rock N'Roll. Plus they would stir things up and their songs kick ass.

Sunday here's a link to one of their vids for your DIY TV show

http://www.machineclothing.ca/IMAGES/cheerleader.mov

http://www.cheerleader666.com/newfrontpage.jpg
June 6th, 2005, 11:04 AM
creeper2

Quote:

Originally posted by Raiven:
Murderdolls would be that band if Joey Jordison would stop pissing around with Slipknot

roadrunner records would never let this happen. according to Eric, the reason the Murderdolls never did a full blown US tour was that roadrunner records would not heavily promote/support the Murderdolls in the states for fear that they would become big and Joey would leave Slipknot and continue on with the Murderdolls and Slipknot is roadrunner's cash cow at the moment.

also according to Eric, the actions of one Murderdoll is jeopardizing the future of the Murderdolls. though all of the Dolls are doing something musically while Slipknot is churning along, it seems that they are not happy that one of them is basically carrying on the Murderdolls look and sound. the words that were spoken to me were "if he continues doing what he is doing there will be no more Murderdolls"

that is not my opinion or my thinking, this is from Eric. take that for what it's worth.
June 6th, 2005, 11:20 AM
daveprince37

I can understand that... although wasn't W13 doing the same stuff before Murderdolls i.e. Frankenstien Drag Queens...

Anyhow what about the re-release of the Tigertailz CDZ? Don't forget Juliette Lewis and the Licks, we've also got The Donnas as well! & Cruifird Barbara!
June 6th, 2005, 12:15 PM
creeper2

Quote:

Originally posted by daveprince37:
I can understand that... although wasn't W13 doing the same stuff before Murderdolls i.e. Frankenstien Drag Queens...

that was my thinking too.

what i do think they are upset about is how they took on the black and red look. the guys in W13's band all have the red stripes in their jet black hair and then couple that with the horror theme (which W13 had working before the Murderdolls) and they see it as using the Murderdolls popularity for his own purpose. i guess they all agreed to not play any murderdolls music in their solo ventures. they wanted to keep everything separate from the murderdolls. who knows really?

i don't think the re-releases of the Tigertailz cds will have any affect seeing that they really had no affect outside of the already establish glam community when they were first released.

i really don't think glam will ever make a comeback like people are waiting for. to become the in thing you have to appeal to the kids, the 15 to 25 age group and no one coming out in pink spandex, girls make up, big puffy hair and pretty boy looks are going to go over well with the kids. for as much as they sell motley crue and poison shirts in hot topic (you can always find them on the discount shelf) the kids look at them as jokes. i have 2 nieces in high school and when i ask them what the big bands are and who they listen to you get the normal green day, my chemical romance and yellowcard. when i say how about motley crue, ozzy, poison you get ewwwwww noooooo no one likes them. it's not going to happen.

there are a lot of bands out there now that are influenced by 80's music and are very good but they are not glam, never will be glam, and don't care to be glam. the 80's early 90's were a great time for living and for music but they are over.
June 6th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Stacey0471

Agree with Bill here.
Old bands reunited is good for a nostalgia trip, but hardly relevent to the youth of today.

The kids might listen to their folk's music at home, even enjoy it, but until a teen band does glam, it won't be cool. Can't see it happening.

No kid wants to be a social outcast.

[ June 06, 2005 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Stacey. ]
June 6th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Carl I.

If this is all about saving the Sunset Strip type of junk, and all the Warrant bands? Then I think I will take a pass and let them all go away. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

As for the rest of what you are whinning about, I have a feeling you are preaching to the choir here man. I have a few things that I won't trade, but those things I was asked to NOT trade by the bands. It has nothing to do with my wanting to be superior. I already know that I am [img]wink.gif[/img] . It just has to do with me not wanting to piss off the fine people that have given me stuff. On the few things I have sent out that I am questionable about the artist as to if they want it in the trade scene, I have asked those I have sent to (usually only people I trust such as Ian with the RCC stuff) to NOT start shipping it all over.

As for selling an original CD on eBay for $100, we know that I have NO problem with that. Get what you can get for your own property.

Charge $100 for a CD-R, you are an asshole. I have been one before. Ya live, ya learn. Plus, those were Proggies I did it do, so eh, oh well.

The main problem with "our scene" is that fact that the majority of the bands in it are boring or kind of suck or are living off the past. It has nothing to do with somebody hording tapes and CD's. Blame the music, not the fans. Duh.

[ June 06, 2005 09:40 AM: Message edited by: Carl I. ]
June 6th, 2005, 03:40 PM
NEVER ON SUNDAY

Quote:

Originally posted by Hazardous:
Hollywood?...Canada IMO has some of the coolest Glam/Sleaze bands of late to come out.

Black Halos
Crystal Pistol
Robin Black
Crash Kelly
The Sinisters
Chinatown

To name a few. I do my best to spread the word of cool bands to people. A lot of ppl on this board, myself included, trade or give stuff to people that we think is cool.

Music goes in cycles. Right now the whole new wavey Killers, Hot Hot Heat, Interpol bands are the flavour of the labels. Glam/Trash rock is gradually making a comeback. There needs to be one band to push it over the edge as with any genre. The new Black Halos CD from what I've heard so far sounds awesome.

Andii, Isn't the only musician from the UK Rick Astley?...ROFL

the new halos does rock, check out the file i have posted on my site,--- DIY TV LINK

[ June 06, 2005 12:41 AM: Message edited by: NEVER ON SUNDAY ]