At 8:00am I haven't heard any updated news but, the birthplace of jazz may be getting wiped out by Hurricane Katrina as I write this. All of you who love jazz should pray for the great city.
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At 8:00am I haven't heard any updated news but, the birthplace of jazz may be getting wiped out by Hurricane Katrina as I write this. All of you who love jazz should pray for the great city.
I ear that he changed from level 5 to level 4 this night
I totally got consumed with this...watched it unfold all night long. Things look really bad in New Orleans and Biloxi...MS got hit real bad. The looting kills me...I hate to see that video...bums me out bigtime...outside of the obvious safety for people, I hope those older building are gonna make it...it's our Europe.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with that sentiment. Most of the buildings in the 'French Quarter' were wonderfully preserved and had an old European quality to them. So much history and a magical place.Quote:
outside of the obvious safety for people, I hope those older building are gonna make it...it's our Europe.
Man, I cannot believe how devastated that place is. I mean, it's like a nuclear bomb just leveled the city. This is horrible. [img]frown.gif[/img]
Has anyone seen the aerial photographs of New Orleans? It's basically wiped out. The flood water is contaminated with not only petrolium products but also Superfund cleanup site contamination, of which N.O has several. Even after the water is gone, it will be unsafe to inhabit for years.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all, who were affected by Hurricane Katrina.
The city is devasted, i can relate because we get Typhoon (or hurricane as you guys call it) season here from about july to october here and there have been some pretty big ones, I guess New Orleans is less prepared for it and this was a big one too.
I hope the city can be restored and the people have their homes back. I offer my condolences to all affected.
On an also sad note, did you guys hear about the human stampede in bagdhad. There 1 million people on the streets for a religious thing and then there was rumour of a suicide bombing so everyone started trying to run away, over 1000 people got trampled to death...some things are just, i have no words to describe this
Thanks to the incompetent Bush administration.
New Orleans descends into anarchy
September 2, 2005 - 7:09AM
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New Orleans has descended into anarchy as corpses lay abandoned, fights and fires broke out, cops turned in their badges and the governor declared war on looters who have made the city a menacing landscape of disorder and fear.
"They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said of 300 National Guard troops who landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will."
Four days after Hurricane Katrina roared in with a devastating blow that inflicted potentially thousands of deaths, the fear, anger and violence mounted.
"I'm not sure I'm going to get out of here alive," said Canadian tourist Larry Mitzel, who handed a reporter his business card in case he goes missing. "I'm scared of riots. I'm scared of the locals. We might get caught in the crossfire."
The chaos deepened despite the promise of 1,400 National Guardsmen a day to stop the looting, plans for a $US10 billion ($A13 billion) recovery bill in Congress and a government relief effort President George W. Bush called the biggest in US history.
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AdvertisementNew Orleans' top emergency management official called that effort a "national disgrace" and questioned when reinforcements would actually reach the increasingly lawless city.
About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention centre grew ever more hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead.
Police Chief Eddie Compass said there was such a crush around a squad of 88 officers that they retreated when they went in to check out reports of assaults.
"We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten," Compass said. "Tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon."
Col. Henry Whitehorn, chief of the Louisiana State Police, said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers - many of whom from flooded areas - turning in their badges.
"They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives," Whitehorn said.
A military helicopter tried to land at the convention centre several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 3m off the ground and flew away.
At least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention centre, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement.
An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.
"I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair.
"You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people," he added. "You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here."
The street outside the centre, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and faeces, and was choked with dirty nappies, old bottles and garbage.
"They've been teasing us with buses for four days," Edwards said. "They're telling us they're going to come get us one day, and then they don't show up."
Every so often, an armoured state police vehicle cruised in front of the convention centre with four or five officers in riot gear with automatic weapons. But there was no sign of help from the National Guard.
"We are out here like pure animals," the Issac Clark said.
"We've got people dying out here - two babies have died, a woman died, a man died," said Helen Cheek. "We haven't had no food, we haven't had no water, we haven't had nothing. They just brought us here and dropped us."
Tourist Debbie Durso of Washington, Michigan, said she asked a police officer for assistance and his response was, "'Go to hell - it's every man for himself."'
"This is just insanity," she said. "We have no food, no water ... all these trucks and buses go by and they do nothing but wave."
FEMA director Michael Brown said the agency just learned about the situation at the convention centre and quickly scrambled to provide food, water and medical care and remove the corpses.
Speaking on CNN's Larry King Live, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the evacuation of New Orleans should be completed by the end of the weekend.
At the hot and stinking Superdome, where 30,000 were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, fistfights and fires erupted amid a seething sea of tense, suffering people who waited in a lines that stretched 800m to board yellow school buses.
Some of those among the mostly poor crowd had been in the dome for four days without air conditioning, working toilets or a place to bathe.
An ambulance service airlifting the sick and injured out of the Superdome suspended flights as too dangerous after it was reported that a bullet was fired at a military helicopter.
"If they're just taking us anywhere, just anywhere, I say praise God," said refugee John Phillip. "Nothing could be worse than what we've been through."
New Orleans' emergency operations chief Terry Ebbert blamed the inadequate response on the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
"This is not a FEMA operation. I haven't seen a single FEMA guy," he said. He added: "We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans."
FEMA officials said some operations had to be suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, but are working overtime to feed people and restore order.
A day after Nagin took 1,500 police officers off search-and-rescue duty to try to restore order in the streets, there were continued reports of looting, shootings, gunfire and carjackings - and not all the crimes were driven by greed.
When some hospitals try to airlift patients, Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan said, "there are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, 'You better come get my family."'
Several thousand storm victims had arrived in Houston by Thursday night, and they quickly got hot meals, showers and some much-needed rest.
While floodwaters in the city appeared to stabilise, efforts continued to plug three breaches that had opened up in the levee system that protects this below-sea-level city.
Helicopters dropped sandbags into the breach and pilings were being pounded into the mouth of the canal to close its connection to Lake Pontchartrain, state Transportation Secretary Johnny Bradberry said.
The next step called for using about 250 concrete road barriers to seal the gap.
In Washington, the White House said Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.
The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.
"I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this - whether it be looting, or price gouging at the petrol pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud," Bush said. "And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together."
Donald Dudley, a 55-year-old New Orleans seafood merchant, complained that when he and other hungry refugees broke into the kitchen of the convention centre and tried to prepare food, the National Guard chased them away.
"They pulled guns and told us we had to leave that kitchen or they would blow our damn brains out," he said. "We don't want their help. Give us some vehicles and we'll get ourselves out of here!"
? 2005 AAP
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You always wear a tinfoil hat? Doctors, Bush administration.Quote:
Thanks to the incompetent Bush administration.
Yeah, anything to blame it on someone else...I'm sure the corrupt state and local government of NO had NOTHING to do with the levees being substandard or human nature of inner city gangs.
LOL, keep up the ridiculousness...it's good, you do a good job.
What really makes me sick is that there are people out there stealing, shooting at people, raping women, etc. What an evil person someone has to be to do such things at time like this.
It does seem like the relief efforts have been very, very poor. We can air drop supplies in Afghanistan and Iraq but not our own country? And they want to arrest people for stealing food and diapers? Sad.
It's too bad really. They tell everyone to evacuate but if your poor how can you afford a hotel? Or gas to get you there? Did we offer places to put these people up before it happened?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well after all, what's more important to this criminal administration, human life or oil?Quote:
Originally posted by Daniel LeClaire:
What really makes me sick is that there are people out there stealing, shooting at people, raping women, etc. What an evil person someone has to be to do such things at time like this.
It does seem like the relief efforts have been very, very poor. We can air drop supplies in Afghanistan and Iraq but not our own country? And they want to arrest people for stealing food and diapers? Sad.
It's too bad really. They tell everyone to evacuate but if your poor how can you afford a hotel? Or gas to get you there? Did we offer places to put these people up before it happened?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You always wear a tinfoil hat? Doctors, Bush administration.Quote:
Originally posted by benrand:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks to the incompetent Bush administration.
Yeah, anything to blame it on someone else...I'm sure the corrupt state and local government of NO had NOTHING to do with the levees being substandard or human nature of inner city gangs.
LOL, keep up the ridiculousness...it's good, you do a good job.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, yeah. Well, have fun. I get a kick out of your lunacy. You do a great job with it, keep going.Quote:
I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
LOL
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, yeah. Well, have fun. I get a kick out of your lunacy. You do a great job with it, keep going.Quote:
Originally posted by benrand:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm not blaming anything on someone else. I'm blaming the disaster in N.O. on the incompetent, imbecile Bush.
LOL</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was thinking the same thing about you. LOL.
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Greetings , Kold Monday here and i would just like to extend the maximum respect and love to anyone thats taken the time to read or post a reply here. Regardless of what one's opinion maybe on the subject of the timeliness on the extension of relief to the New Orleans area, i felt as a local that it would be perhaps helpful to provide a few details that may shed light on the subject. A few years ago our local newspaper the Times Picayune published a five piece article on the possible apocalyptic results of an even less powerful Hurricane passing over the city. All of what they outlined from the flood waters to the loss of life to the destruction of property to the displacement of those left behind for many reasons have come to pass. There has been local awareness for years as to what could happen and unfortunately slow movement to enact solutions. Im not assigning blame only presenting facts . Our beautiful city is in most places below sea level . This when flooded creates a logistical nightmare as far as movement .....in or out. Evacuees have less than four ways of leaving the city and in coming aid is faced with a monumental task of even entering the city. High flood waters, impassable streets lined with fallen trees and broken power lines, as well as debris everywhere insure this. The city 4 hours after the initial tropical storm winds were felt lost 3 of 4 television stations with only one radio station having the ability to relay information out {wwl 870} . So information admittedly was slow getting out as to the true , unique , destructive power of this particular storm . I dont think people knew then as a result that Kartrina was a storm that was dealing energy greater than had ever been seen. Our mayor couldnt even enact a mandatory evacuation order without special permission because of {in his own words} "the logistical impossibilties" of evacuating so many through so few road ways. I can tell you as an evacuee myself that to live in New Orleans and for that matter along the gulf coast is to live with the seasonal risk of experiencing destruction on a mass scale. In this case i feel these and other circumstances worked in concert to make a bad situation much worse. I dont believe there are many places in our country that are free from the possibility of natural disaster. I further think that the true measure of how this administration handles this situation will be calculated from the efforts that should be sustained over the many months ahead that it will take to rebuild.As the national media reports, i hoped to provide some facts from a local.Much love and much respect to all.
Thanks for shedding some light on the situation Kold Monday, all the best to you and your people in New Orleans
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 03, 2005 08:58 AM: Message edited by: S.P ]</font>
I am placing blame, directly on Bush and his corrupt, incompetent administration. They were repeatedly asked for funding to fortify the levy system and in response funding was repeatedly cut. After all, what's more important to thata filthy bastard Bush, American lives or a phoney war for personal profit.
Here's an article that touches on the subject.
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"No one can say they didn't see it coming"
In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
Left: A New Orleans resident walks through floodwaters coated with a fine layer of oil in the flooded downtown area on Tuesday, Aug. 30, 2005.
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By Sidney Blumenthal
Aug. 31, 2005 | Biblical in its uncontrolled rage and scope, Hurricane Katrina has left millions of Americans to scavenge for food and shelter and hundreds to thousands reportedly dead. With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico. But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.
A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late.
The New Orleans Times-Picayune, which before the hurricane published a series on the federal funding problem, and whose presses are now underwater, reported online: "No one can say they didn't see it coming ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."
The Bush administration's policy of turning over wetlands to developers almost certainly also contributed to the heightened level of the storm surge. In 1990, a federal task force began restoring lost wetlands surrounding New Orleans. Every two miles of wetland between the Crescent City and the Gulf reduces a surge by half a foot. Bush had promised "no net loss" of wetlands, a policy launched by his father's administration and bolstered by President Clinton. But he reversed his approach in 2003, unleashing the developers. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency then announced they could no longer protect wetlands unless they were somehow related to interstate commerce.
In response to this potential crisis, four leading environmental groups conducted a joint expert study, concluding in 2004 that without wetlands protection New Orleans could be devastated by an ordinary, much less a Category 4 or 5, hurricane. "There's no way to describe how mindless a policy that is when it comes to wetlands protection," said one of the report's authors. The chairman of the White House's Council on Environmental Quality dismissed the study as "highly questionable," and boasted, "Everybody loves what we're doing."
"My administration's climate change policy will be science based," President Bush declared in June 2001. But in 2002, when the Environmental Protection Agency submitted a study on global warming to the United Nations reflecting its expert research, Bush derided it as "a report put out by a bureaucracy," and excised the climate change assessment from the agency's annual report. The next year, when the EPA issued its first comprehensive "Report on the Environment," stating, "Climate change has global consequences for human health and the environment," the White House simply demanded removal of the line and all similar conclusions. At the G-8 meeting in Scotland this year, Bush successfully stymied any common action on global warming. Scientists, meanwhile, have continued to accumulate impressive data on the rising temperature of the oceans, which has produced more severe hurricanes.
In February 2004, 60 of the nation's leading scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, warned in a statement, "Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policymaking": "Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world's most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy ... Indeed, this principle has long been adhered to by presidents and administrations of both parties in forming and implementing policies. The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle ... The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease." Bush completely ignored this statement.
In the two weeks preceding the storm in the Gulf, the trumping of science by ideology and expertise by special interests accelerated. The Federal Drug Administration announced that it was postponing sale of the morning-after contraceptive pill, despite overwhelming scientific evidence of its safety and its approval by the FDA's scientific advisory board. The United Nations special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa accused the Bush administration of responsibility for a condom shortage in Uganda -- the result of the administration's evangelical Christian agenda of "abstinence." When the chief of the Bureau of Justice Statistics in the Justice Department was ordered by the White House to delete its study that African-Americans and other minorities are subject to racial profiling in police traffic stops and he refused to buckle under, he was forced out of his job. When the Army Corps of Engineers' chief contracting oversight analyst objected to a $7 billion no-bid contract awarded for work in Iraq to Halliburton (the firm at which Vice President Cheney was formerly CEO), she was demoted despite her superior professional ratings. At the National Park Service, a former Cheney aide, a political appointee lacking professional background, drew up a plan to overturn past environmental practices and prohibit any mention of evolution while allowing sale of religious materials through the Park Service.
On the day the levees burst in New Orleans, Bush delivered a speech in California comparing the Iraq war to World War II and himself to Franklin D. Roosevelt: "And he knew that the best way to bring peace and stability to the region was by bringing freedom to Japan." Bush had boarded his very own "Streetcar Named Desire."
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 03, 2005 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Henry II ]</font>
Unbelievable. This nation is being led by evil. All in the pursuit of money and personal gain at the expense of others.
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It is because Bush regards science as a philosophy instead of a method for deriving information and understanding about the physical world, he sees it as something that can be bent to accommodate one's personal interests and agenda? it can?t. He has no understanding of science and therefore these types of things are bound to happen when one doesn't understand the boundaries and domain of where philosophy, politics, religion, and science reside. There is a difference between being bullheaded and ignorant, and being strong-willed and having an informed conviction. Bush is in the first category.Quote:
"Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world's most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy ... Indeed, this principle has long been adhered to by presidents and administrations of both parties in forming and implementing policies. The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle ... The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease." Bush completely ignored this statement.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 03, 2005 04:13 PM: Message edited by: matricks ]</font>
i really don't understand how he managed to get voted again, if i was over there i would lead a group to the whitehouse, and throw him out. Of course i would probably get shot by security [img]eek.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 04, 2005 04:47 AM: Message edited by: S.P ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's easy - electronic voting machines with no paper trail, the softwar of which is owned and operated by a private corporation, the CEO of which publicly vowed a Bush victory. IT'S CALLED CHEATING ON THE VOTE. BUSH IS NOT THE PRESIDENT, NEVER HAS BEEN.Quote:
Originally posted by S.P:
i really don't understand how he managed to get voted again, if i was over there i would lead a group to the whitehouse, and throw him out. Of course i would probably get shot by security [img]eek.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ September 04, 2005 04:47 AM: Message edited by: S.P ]</font></font>
And here i was thinking Americans actually voted him :| (i thought the stuff you describe only happened in the first election)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope! It happened in 2000 and 2004. I have no doubt he cheated on the vote to get elected in Texas as well. But after all, it's . . . Texas.Quote:
Originally posted by S.P:
And here i was thinking Americans actually voted him :| (i thought the stuff you describe only happened in the first election)
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That makes me feel a lot better if its true..i actually thought he had won fair and square this time.
You hear now Afghanistan has donated 100,000 Dollars to New Orleans.
Do they even have any money? The 100K was probably provided by the U.S government in the first place
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The software developer who worked on the software for those voting machines admitted in court under oath that he was asked to 'rig' the software. This is FACT, and yet it never got any publicity.Quote:
Originally posted by Henry II:
electronic voting machines with no paper trail, the softwar of which is owned and operated by a private corporation, the CEO of which publicly vowed a Bush victory.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 04, 2005 11:48 AM: Message edited by: drumming sort of person ]</font>
According to CNN, the first official Death Toll estimate could be from 3000 - to 10.000 casualities.
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Here's an article from a few days ago:
Any Fats Domino fans in the house?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Musi...a.fats.domino/
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We did.Quote:
And here i was thinking Americans actually voted him
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We did.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Some did...Quote:
Originally posted by Clintuplet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And here i was thinking Americans actually voted him
An open letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush
Friday, September 2nd, 2005
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Yours,
Michael Moore
[email protected]
www.MichaelMoore.com
My gosh, the scope of Michael Moore's ignorance is vast! I'm really surprised he didn't catch the first flight out of Florida and lend a hand down in New Orleans. [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]
Moore and Bush are American Imbeciles if you ask me, writing that letter to Bush... Well who gives a Sh't about what Moore means about this. They're people in GREAT need of help.
and Bush is Bush. The Pro - vs the Hate Bush gag is more a battle for identity than a political debate, and the media loves it!
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I think Michael Moore is an American hero. Bush on the other hand is an American IMBECILE.
Except of course, the funds for the levee's had been cut, and the funds for FEMA have been cut, and it's been rolled into Homeland Security Dept.. Michael Brown leader of FEMA, is a political appointee with no experience at all, as are many of Bush's appointees. Bush still supports him and think they've done a great job. Homeland Security, of course is a joke. Terrorists should find comfort knowing there are no plans or ability to react to a real crisis, and certainly no leadership to be found in Washington. Bush (Karl Rove) is great when it comes to staging phony photo-ops, but a criminally incomptent and deceitful leader...or the people pulliing his strings are.
There is going to be a Congressional investigation into this. Moore may be an annoying individual, but he makes some obvious and simple observations that are hard to ignore. Why was there no effort to prepare for this hurricane? Why did the response from Bush take 5 days? And why did his response simply amount to staged photo-ops, in front of grounded helicopters that could have been rescuing people or delivering food and water?
You don't need to be an Iraqi to know that Bush is a stupid and dangerous pawn of business interests like Cheney's Halliburton - who despite their criminal behavior in Iraq - have already been awarded the contract to rebuild NOLA. Note to self: buy Halliburton stock.
Yes, the people of NOLA and surrounding areas need help. But those who were responsible for this critical failure to respond must be held accountable, and removed from office.
LOL at the Bushy McChimphitler consipracies floating all over this place.
It's like wading through a Noam Chomsky book reading. "Bush is stupid, no he isn't, he's an evil genius."
I guess he should have just declared martial law and run right over any privleges the state of New Orleans had.
The world isn't a James Bond movie.
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Search for "miserable failure" in Google, and see what the first result is.... [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Unfortunately with the slant of far left "kook" media, Google is not exempt.Quote:
Search for "miserable failure" in Google, and see what the first result is
I define miserable failure when the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans, both Liberal Democrats, looked at a fully formed evacuation plan and did nothing. Google won't tell you that.
The Governor's job is to call in the National Guard; not Bush's. While it is true that the president has authority to mobilize the National Guard in times of civil unrest, I believe Bush expected the Governor to do her job.
The whole "Bush hates Black people" thing sickens me to no end. While this needs no qualification, I suppose his appointment of African Americans such as Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell to his staff was a part of some evil ploy. Nothing gets past you guys. Or are you expecting the African Americans in his cabinet to mimic Lippizaner horses by being black now but turning white later?