Anybody tested it ? look like inspired by Axis but have some difference too
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9113/34oo.jpg
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Anybody tested it ? look like inspired by Axis but have some difference too
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9113/34oo.jpg
Yeah I saw that ad in the new MD! I suspect it's similar to the BOA, but maybe it has an isolated spring in that side chamber, not sure. I'm very curious about it too! (and price!) [img]graemlins/money.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As you tested it Vdrummer maybe you can answer this 2 questions i have looking this pedal, first is it possible to add a toes stop ? and second where the end of the foot is supposed to be 1 or 2 ?Quote:
Originally posted by Vdrummer:
It uses an internal compression spring. I've seen and fooled around with a few of the earlier prototypes as well as the one in the photo. It has very, very smooth action, and is very adjustable to different types of action - like an Axis. It should be a big seller for Trick.
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I think it will have a toe stop (removable) when it's available. Most people keep there toe at position 1 or even further down the pedal. The pedal in the photo had all the etchings done in Photoshop and weren't on the actual pedal. By the time it's shipping, all that will be worked out.
I noticed how fake those etchings looked. My drum teacher endorses trick and had one of these at his house a little back, I got to play on it a little. It's incredibly smooth and responsive. I'm buying one. Although, I hope they come out with a double.
that is one beautiful looking pedal.
It uses an internal compression spring. I've seen and fooled around with a few of the earlier prototypes as well as the one in the photo. It has very, very smooth action, and is very adjustable to different types of action - like an Axis. It should be a big seller for Trick.
They're coming out with a double too. I believe they'll be shipping around the same time. It has a better U-joint than any other pedal out there, according to what I was told. Another difference is the pedal clamps to your hoop via a lever/spring rather than a screw. So it should clip on and off very quickly.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So it's more for a toes players, i pay 90 % heel down and a pedal without a toes stop or even a heel abrasif like DW is not for me [img]confused.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by Vdrummer:
I think it will have a toe stop (removable) when it's available. Most people keep there toe at position 1 or even further down the pedal.
jojo had a specail pedal that he designed on his kit that looked very similar to this....with no right hand bar so he can do his heel toe technique....looks cool.
Is there a photo of Jojo's pedal somewhere? I'm curious....
No, it WILL have a toe stop, so it might be for you or anyone. The pedal in the picture (the final prototype) didn't have one at the time of the photo shoot.
Yeah, I am too since I play heel-toe as well.
at drummer live they had cameras on the drums with the images projected onto big screens - one of the feet and one obove the set. i dont think i have seen a pic of the pedal, i only saw it live. but search for jojo pics you might find it....he talks a bit about it on his site....he said he designed it and it might be released.
Pretty to look at. But really, do all of these high tech pedals really make any appreciable difference in terms of performance. I've yet to hear anyone play a single bass pedal with significantly more facility than Buddy or Bohnam.
i agree with you Henry!! for me personally there's nothing like the feet of Bonham!! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Yeah the thing is, Buddy KNEW he was THE BEST... and maybe that's why he was so miserable! There were a lot of great drummers around, but NO competition for Buddy.
I have seen SMOKIN players just kill on a crappy kit with sluggish pedals... so, no, I don't think a high tech pedal will make you a better drummer but it might help you feel better as you play.
Well, I think a good pedal can do more than make you feel like you play well.
I agree that a good drummer can play on a bad pedal, but it doesn't logically follow from that, that there is no benefit to playing on a good pedal.
I played this afternoon on an old, sloppy pedal and it was harder to play than on my newer Pearls. I have no doubt that if Buddy Rich sat down to play on that set with the old pedal he would have killed. But (and this is big news), I am not Buddy Rich. I need all the help I can get. [img]eek.gif[/img]
I didn't mean to compare this pedal with a "bad" pedal, just a basic camco or ludwig or yammie pedal with a strap that's in perfect working order. Not a lot of difference, for me anyway.
I've heard a story where some guy who invented a new pedal came to Buddy Rich and said, "Buddy, you gotta try this new pedal." Buddy says,"Why?" The guy says, "It will make you play better." Buddy's response was, "Better than what?"
CB
That's a good story. Hats off to Bonham and Buddy who set the standard - and Don Brewer - lets not forget GFR's American Band.
Generally, that's true. A decent pedal should function well for general musical gigs. However, with extremely fast music and speed metal drummers playing around 900-1000 notes per minute, the pedal can make a big difference. That's why the direct drive pedals are often chosen for this style of music since the straps and chains rob the pedal of some energy. The Axis - usually the longboard model for added leverage (and possibly now the direct drive Trick) is faster than straps, which are a bit faster than chains (according to Mangini and Donati). However, if you're double bass is under 1/16ths at 180, the pedal probably won't make that much of a difference. One of the guys I teach with can play at 210 on a cheap chain Pearl double pedal, so it's still 99% your feet and technique.
Brad,
I look forward to trying one of these
but I am concerned about something that
I see in these different photos and I
wonder if you can clarify this.
I see the comparison to the Axis, in
terms of direct-drive. I like the way
we can control the beater distance
(something Darryl should work on at
Axis). However, I don't see how it em-
lates the VDL. The angle of pull-down
on that lever stays the same, from
what I see, here.
Am I wrong about that?
That is something that Boa-Pedal has
that makes it a real competitor to the
Axis-A's. Let me know, please.
Also, do you have one, there, at the
shop? I would rather see it there.
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Hi Peter,
They can't be found anywhere in the world yet, but the owner of Trick drops by with the latest prototype from time to time. I'm not sure exactly what you mean, the beater angle is adjustable, as is the footboard. I don't know about beater distance though.
You got that part right, with the
beater angle. That's what I meant
about the beater distance from the
head. On the pull-down, the Axis-
A's VDL changes the angle of the
lever, when it pulls down and draws
on the beater for the stroke.
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They don't show the "actual beater" just yet.
More details at the site, and nice pics...
www.trickdrums.com