Pretty Clothes Pattern for Felicity

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the original American Girl Pretty Clothes Pattern for Felicity? I just need a copy; it does not have to be the original pattern, providing this is permissible. All of the ones on ebay are just out of my price range. I would appreciate any suggestions. Everyone is so helpful on this board. I am so glad I found you when I was doing a search on the MCM sale. I have been addicted ever since, to the dolls and this board; although, I am a quiet one and mainly read instead of participating.

Carol

I would love that too, Lizzie wants new clothes !

You could try second-hand stores like Goodwill, yard/garage sales, and perhaps a used bookstore would have one every blue moon.

Best of luck on your search!!!

I would just keep looking on ebay, garage sales and second hand stores.

McCalls also makes "craft patterns" for 18" dolls that are appropriate to Felicity's era. Since you are going to be using different fabrics, these patterns will produce dresses that are similar to the ones she has. And you can always adapt them to make them more similiar to Felicity's clothes.

It would violate Copyright laws for someone to just make a copy of a pattern though, so you shouldn't encourage that.

Unfortunatly copyrights extend long after production.

It's perfectly legal to use sewing patterns and then sell them, or to lend them out. But in theory, when you copy patterns to use as a working copy, you are supposed to destroy them.

The issue comes up a lot in the knitting world- and it really ****s when a design is no longer available for purchase and used copies cost hundreds of dollars, but you don't want to do something illegal either.

You don't have to delete your post on my account. It's like downloading music or movies, you have to make your own choice.

Some people just don't actually know that they aren't supposed to do that,and it's a more informed decision if they do know.

I have no idea of the legalities of this issue - but if Pleasant Company owned the copyright to the patterns, and Pleasant Company no longer exists, does the copyright still exist?
Conversely, copyrights usually state that the item may not be reproduced without written permission. Do you think American Girl/Mattel would grant such permission, given that they didn't initiate the patterns, aren't likely ever to reissue them, and they wouldn't be for commercial use?
If someone wants to ask AG if they would grant permission, I'd be delighted to copy my patterns for just a token fee - enough to cover the actual cost of photocopying and mailing.

<font color="#33CCCC" size="1">[ August 19, 2006 01:36 AM: Message edited by: JeanieD ]</font>

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Originally posted by JeanieD:
I have no idea of the legalities of this issue - but if Pleasant Company owned the copyright to the patterns, and Pleasant Company no longer exists, does the copyright still exist?
Conversely, copyrights usually state that the item may not be reproduced without written permission. Do you think American Girl/Mattel would grant such permission, given that they didn't initiate the patterns, aren't likely ever to reissue them, and they wouldn't be for commercial use?
If someone wants to ask AG if they would grant permission, I'd be delighted to copy my patterns for just a token fee - enough to cover the actual cost of photocopying and mailing.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have no idea how copyrights work, but I imagine all the PC ones got transferred to Mattel, or something like that, when Mattel bought it out. You could surely try writing them - the worst they can say is no, right? But then again, if they catch you violating copyright laws after they specifically denied them to you, you could be in pretty big trouble!

I'll email them and ask.

Alright I sent one.
The only thing is, I'm not sure if they even could grant me permission to copy the patterns since I don't have them. But at least the person with the patterns would know what kind of response they could get if they asked.

I did say for non-commerical use, and the person who owned the patterns would not sell the copied patterns.

I sent it to customer service, so I might just get an email back telling me where to direct it. Or it might just be a long time till I get any kind of response.

Maybe I will look on the mattel site to see if there is someone else I should send a letter to.

<font color="#051E50" size="1">[ October 02, 2005 09:02 PM: Message edited by: Skittl1321 ]</font>

Oh I found this link on the Mattel website.
http://www.mattel.com/contact_us/permissions.pdf

The person who actually has the patterns should fill this out and send it in. I would make sure to state the exact number of copies needed, reitterate that these are discontinued, and that this is a serious group of collectors who likely already have, or will aquire the actual dresses, so distributing these patterns will not hurt sales.

Stress that the patterns are for non-commercial use only and will not be sold to the people you are giving them too.

It would be so cool to get these patterns.

If you really do go to the trouble of doing this, count me in as someone who wants a set [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thank you all so very much for your replies. You are all so very helpful and I was just looking for some options. I only sew for personal use so would not be making these to make any kind of personal profit. I checked with our local library and that was not an option but at least you gave me an idea. Like I said in my first post, I only wanted a copy of the pattern if it was permissible. I appreciate the great lengths everyone goes to, to help others out on this board; you are the greatest!

You should check out
McCalls 3627 for Felicity
McCalls 2609 for Addy
and McCalls 3275 for Kirsten.

I have all these patterns and they are extremely easy to use. Look for them on ebay or sign up for Joann's mailers and use a 40% off coupon.

Good luck finding the real AG patterns. I want them too, but ebay is just to much money.

Count me in on this fun. I have Felicity's and Kirsten's patterns. I have had both of them copied at my local Staples for my personal use, but if this works out, I would be willing to trade copies of my patterns for ones that I don't have.

I'm a bit confused about this permission form. Wouldn't each one of us who have some of these patterns have to fill out this form to ask for "permission" to legally copy it to share? From reading the form, it sounds like permission is sometimes granted on a case by case basis to each person. In other words, if only one person asked, and was granted permission, that wouldn't necessarily mean that the rest of us could copy the patterns we have, would it?

Linda

I think with the permission form the person who owns the pattern would need permission to copy it.

Which is why I recommended she specify the number of copies she wants to make. It might even help to have the names of the people she will copy it for.

The people who want a copy can't fill it out, because while that would grant permission to get a copy, it still doesn't release the owner to make a distribute copies of the patterns. That would only work if Mattel did the actual copying and distributing.

And also- no it wouldn't give other people permission to copy their patterns, but it would give you an idea of the response you might get by asking.

<font color="#051E50" size="1">[ October 03, 2005 02:47 PM: Message edited by: Skittl1321 ]</font>

Any word on this yet? [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]

<font color="#051E50" size="1">[ October 11, 2005 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Jeanette M. ]</font>

Jeanette -

The form had a "please wait 4-6 weeks for an answer." So it might still be awhile.

Linda