I think no one likes mangini, cause they now their chops will never be as fast.
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I think no one likes mangini, cause they now their chops will never be as fast.
It may not be my style nor my taste but hey, this is awesome! He's an animal. Playing like this in the studio requires more than speed or confidence... I admire players like that who spent a lot of time learning how to play the drums...
its funny the way the engineers who obviously know nothing about drumming wet themselves at every opportunity [img]biggrin.gif[/img] Great technique all the same.
He's got incredible technique and time, and is an amusing guy to hang with. And somehow he keeps getting faster....
It's called not having a life
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">HAHHA!! Funny. I prefer to look at it like this D_F: First of all that music isn't my cup of tea and I wouldn't want to be involved with it and secondly this is everything I hate about drumming: No dynamics, taste, peaks troughs, touch or feel. It's just blisteringly fast, loud and on one level.Quote:
Originally posted by DeeP_FRieD:
I think no one likes mangini, cause they now their chops will never be as fast.
Gimme a Peter Erskine ballad any day. Why have I never hear Mike play tasteful and with controlled dynamics? If you think it's the green eyed monster, you're wrong. I hold my hand up to being absoloutely nowhere near his technique. But I'll say this, if that's the sort of playing that having his technique produces, then I'll stick to what I know.
Ha! How ironic.
I was asked to join Annihilator (Canada's biggest metal band) when I was 19 (I am now 25). I was playing metal at the time and getting some praise for it... although I had no interest at all in building my speed or sounding like a drum machine. To make a long story short, I was honored to be "the chosen one" but declined the offer... a few years later Mangini is back with them. Could have been me in this video (playing at half the speed)!!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Jeff Waters is killer thrash guitar player and once in a while writes a completly unbelievable rockin' thrash tune.
Mangini work is technically flawless on those tracks but uninspired, i think, compared to what a hundred or more drummers are doing in metal. (Or did at the height of "thrash-metal")
Weapon-X is one my favorite "pissed-off" tune (Great for training as those songs are quite steady)
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 05, 2006 05:41 PM: Message edited by: fftha ]</font>
Hi Guys,
At the beginning is joking around the kit...
But when he goes for recording the track, I find that he does it incredibly well for this kind of style.
Some drummer has to do it anyway...
I give him my respect.
He played for great for that style, which for the non-close minded, non-timid/insecure, is a great genre for drums.
Hey there all,
Well this is something else. A nice glimpse of someone as awesome as Mangini in the studio.
He goofs around for a bit and then nails a track. Although I can't really stand this type of music, it's hats off time...
Mike Mangini
MP
I reckon you could get a drum machine to do that and it wouldn't sound too different. Horrible playing IMO.
couldn't really see the video as it was fragmenting... but that was just a noise!! [img]eek.gif[/img]
Well,
Like I said, I don't like the music. From a drummer's point of view, I can appreciate how much technical wherewithall it takes to pull it off...
That's what I'm digging here...
MP
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 05, 2006 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Groovemeister ]</font>
For another impressive display of that style of drumming, check out Derek Roddy at: http://www.derekroddy.com. Go to:
1. Media
2. Videos
3. Behold Judas and/or It's Our Will
The other vids are pretty impressive for other reasons ie: the 3 against 2 video.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2006 09:02 AM: Message edited by: Henry II ]</font>
I do appreciate what Mike can do.
I am sure that there are other settings
that he could shine in. Perhaps someday.
[img]cool.gif[/img]
Henry, those are good vids too - for those of us that appreciate this style. The 3:2 one's been on my hard drive since the day he posted it.
Roddy's a credit to the speed & metal drumming genre[s], & also def is not a 1 or 2 dimensional player.
He was also of a soft-spoken manner when i met & spoke with him [maybe he takes out his "frustrations" in his drumming [img]wink.gif[/img] , as do i try to do AW].
One comment he made I'll relate here [nothing revolutionary or profound]; as is the usual, when 2 or more drummers are chewin' the phat, cats like Vince or Weckl may tend to eventually come up in the conversation [img]wink.gif[/img] , & i said to him how some guys bag on Weckl for his "precision feel" or "lack of grease," & he says something to the effect of, "bagging [period] on Weckl, huh...yeah, I don't buy it..." [img]cool.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/party.gif[/img]
Yee-haawww. Go ahead n start somethin'... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Mangini is a bum-blistering techno-fuso-rockin'-metal player, it 'tis what it 'tis, nothing more or less, 'nuff said.
I hear what Dazz is saying regarding this particular tune AWA a large body of what some of these great techno-players are known for...maybe what some are saying is..."we need more dynamics &/or human feel/grease in contempo-metal-fusion" [perhaps that's an oxymoron /;-]]...well, I guess one might have to consider going back in time & DE-invent the click/drum machine... /;-p [it's the Nature of the Beast, i suppose]...
It would be interesting to hear Dennis on a full-on metal project...speed n grease, oh my, how tasty....& I also wouldn't mind hearing Weck on a studio metal project either [I didn't necessarily say "live tour"]. I wouldn't say he couldn't handle it either...they can do amazing things with in-studio FX to make drums sound like they're taking a monstrous thrashing. Dave would KILL a metal session, don't kid yourselves. He's not always the light airy touch Dave, although he's not as visually bombastic as many metal guys [stick heighths, etc]. Can ya say "melodic metal drumming?" I've seen Dave many times in clinic. Don't think he can't whop some hard-rock drums. He can bring it. When i've seen him in clinic, esp in '92, he was playing some driving, hard-rockin'-fuso shedt that would curl Aldridge or even Li'l John's hair. And a sound tech/engineeer can do the rest.
WOULD he do it, i suppose, is the real ?... /;-]
Well, I guess I took a slight detour there...[ah well, one thing leads to another]...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 07, 2006 04:01 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>
Thanks for all the feedback guys,
A predictible variety of responses from some, ranging from "It's not music" to "Wow"...
The reason I posted it up was because it illustrated a point.
The point was, Mangini was goofing around, mucking about, just making the engineer laugh and getting him on his side... (something a few in here could take note from no doubt...). Then he settles into playing what the song needs (like the song/genre or not) and nails it. A true mark of professionalism...
MP
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[img]wink.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by Groovemeister:
...just making the engineer laugh and getting him on his side... (something a few in here could take note from no doubt...).
Then he settles into playing what the song needs (like the song/genre or not) and nails it. A true mark of professionalism...
HOLY CRAP! after watching that I need to switch back to the booger eating avatar
LMAO
NAH.
Bruce licking his thumb b4 he kicks Kareem's @$$ is WAY better [not to mention much more intimidating]...
...besides, all boogie eaters get their @r$e$ kicked by thumb lickers...[altho they can also be one in the same [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img] [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] ]...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 07, 2006 10:07 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>