Rita could mean $5.00 gas

Rita could mean $5.00 gas

Everybody will be going crazy and sprinting for the gas pumps and will probably make the prices rise even before Rita hits.

Glad I don't own a gas-guzzling SUV. I always like to imagine some big wig in a $40,000 Ford Excursion with a Bush/Cheney 2004 sticker on the back! Sure I'll hear about this comment, but it's kinda funny in today's times.

i got a toyota 4runner and it's getting about 26 miles to the gallon...so im not terribly upset

All refineries are now shut down and a major pipeline will not move oil for up to 1 week or longer leaving us with the same deal as Katrina...Except more refineries and Oilr Riggs will be closed causing gas to definatly hit $4.00 a gallon with most paying close to $5.00...The guy on CNN says that Natural gas has already risen 150% higher and has a possibility of going even higher.

I don't care if I had something getting 40 mpg I'd still be upset....cuz I dont know about you but I sure as he...ck got better things to blow money on than spending it all on gas!

Even I won't blame all of this on Bush. Tim Wilson said this was a sign for the Dems to "Drill Alaska" and forget the animals, other than the two legged ones.

I cant wait to see all the democrats in Dickenson County griping about haveing to pay for the county stickers. Im guessing you havent bought yours yet lpd05, but thanks for voting democrat, really appreciate all these tax hikes.

Democrats = Higher taxes but people have jobs.
Republicans = Lower taxes but nobody has a job.

Which do you want?

higher taxes = better roads, school systems, etc.

Yep , no potholes in SWVA or here in NC (and orange barrels are the state tree here) . The US public schools for the most part are sadly lagging behind most economically developed countries . More taxes means I have less to spend on my family , period.

no roads will be perfect but the roads in VA are MUCH better than those without the taxes in other states like tennessee

You mean a replublican and a democrat help people out...That has to be the joke of the year right there.

it's pretty sad but it doesnt happen
some just dont even go with what they believe in anymore...it's simply what the party line is

I can't speak of Tennessee roads , but as a rule , government mismanages everything it gets control over.

Two quotes by former President Reagan

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"

"The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."

Exactly give the money to the government and see what happens to it...It won't help the people it supposed to and when it goes to help what few it does via Social Security and WIC and other most of those people are abusing it and don't need it but have good doctors who have helped them out in some way or the other...Also these people driving these Escalades and SUV drawing food stamps should stop as well...The government as SunTzu said mismanages everything they get their hands on except when it's something they or someone in their party wants...Such as Pay raises.

Good post Ole Tob! I agree 100%. I would just like to know how these people get by with this? I got behind someone the other day while driving my car. He was in a new model Chevy pickup, 4wd, with a brand new four wheeler in the back. He made a right turn in his driveway up to the house in which the "government" built for him. This person is an ex-felon that spent time in the pin for drugs and stolen guns---fact. I have a college degree and consider myself an abiding citizen and I don't have the luxuries these people have, I am currently unemployed due to a massive layoff and can't get crap. Only a measly check once a week, which couldn't buy the tires off that 4 wheeler. I'm trying like hell to get a good paying and respectable job and these people are sitting around on their lazy asses for free. Oh, I didn't mention that the "government" also re-done their septic system. Well, i've lived in my place for five years now and still ain't got a nice porch, but I'll be damned if i'll take any help from anyone (assistance)-- atleast I still got my pride. I'm still paying my health insurance out of pocket and feeding my dogs everyday. I'm just tired of seeing these sorry assess get by for free. Just ride by the "local" apartments during the middle of the day and you will find many "fit and able" people that can work and pay taxes like the rest. The government takes care of way too many people that are just plain sorry. I know there are a few that need assistance and should get it but this sould get monitered more closely. I just hate to see tax-payers money go to these people.

Greencrest, I don't like to give to donate to the cause, but shoot, almost every county around has a sticker, we didn't, so do we somehow deserve to get our cake but not have to pay for it? Less money coming into counties from the state, so the counties have to make up the money somehow. so I have little problem with us paying a bit to equal things out if it helps, key word there is "if". Nobody likes paying for a decal, but I guess money has to be made up somewhere and shoot, to get a decal, people have to have paid their taxes and such, so maybe paying a small amount helps get a larger amount paid in the end.

The larger amount goes to DCWIN which in turn is going to bankrupt Dickenson County. The stickers will bring in a little over $125,000 and DCWIN has cost us over $2,000,000 and take in hardly nothing. Throwing away money in an never endind HOLE!

Well I won't argue the DCWin debacle. That was a stupid idea, and the money that should be used on getting a rocking 911 system was used for that, IMO. The idea of providing internet was good, but the logistics were bad and to intermixed. I know they was trying to sell it but in case nobody has noticed, your internet is mostly provided through tele-communication companies, because they can do it cheaper.

Idea was nice, logistics were bad, and it was one of those cases where they showed everybody a eutopia of high speed access, but with our terrain, its not cost beneficial.

And ...with the recent approval of federal regulations, our wonderful power companies can and will be providing internet access.

The best for DCWin. Sell out, totally give up the internet provider part, and get back to being used for emergency personnel, etc, which will cost still but a lot cheaper than the tricks they are trying.

I wouldnt have any problem at all if the money was going for a road or for our schools, but when we are taxed to death because of our bonehead supervisors and representives, it makes me sick. And that is the truth, Paul Buchanon and Keith Viers have run our county into the dirt. If paying for this decal was under different circumstances Rocket I would also be all for it. You say that counties all around us have this program then why is Dickenson county just now doing it? Because its an attempt to barely keep our head above water for a little longer and its wrong no matter how you look at it and when the board is 4-1 in favor of the democrats, and our representitive is a demorcrat, the facts speak for themselves.

Absolutely greencrest1272...Because they have a (D) beside of their name. Imagine if it was an (R)...

You obviously havent been inside very many Dickenson county schools, and you surely havent driven on any roads in Dickenson county.

Higher taxes= better schools, better roads...my a$$

Well thats not the case now is it, its the democrats are running the county into the ground, not the republicans, thats not some right wing nonsense either, thats the facts.

Calm down greencrest1272! Shez, if I didn't know any better, I would think you were a republican! You get way into this stuff. All politicans are crooks. George Bush, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Dick Cheney, Ross Perot, state politicians, local politicans. Their might be an expection to the rule every now and then, but most politicans are mainly crooks. Let's go fishing sometimes and try and calm u down!!!

Well I guess that means Im right then.... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Hay I liked Perot!!!

I agree with both sides I have no problem with the County stickers it could help with some of the folk we have in the county that never pay there property taxes. BUT DCWIN is a black hole of a money pit for the county and probably got Adelpha and Verizon offering Broadban internet to the county sooner than they would have otherwise. I have heard mixed reviews on the quality of DCWIN which is cheaper than Cable and about the same cost as DSL but with way to much baggage

Jim Gilmore, did away with tax state went to hell. George Bush gives tax breaks, cost of everything else in this country sky rockets, especially healthcare and housing. So, I strongly encourage you to continue voting republican.

Vote either way...You'll see one of these day that both could care less about us...I'm neither Republican nor Democrat because they care only about their pockets...So to all whom vote continue to put these Republicans and Democrats in office and see where they lead us.

Im about the same way Tob. I vote for who i think will get the job done.
As far as what Gilmore done. Well that started out as a dare and ended up a political nightmare. He pushed that through with much of his own party against it.
And honestly in this years race i don't see a candidate that has a plan. Kilgore says freeze property taxes. That is fine at the one level. But all the counties have to do is keep increasing the rates? So there is no freeze.
Kaine i have issues with. Cause he susposedly has ties to former Gov. Linwood Holton from BSG, but he is never in the area enough to completely lay out his plan.
Honestly i don't even think i'll waste my time voting for a governor this year. As we don't have a candidate in either party, who i can say i think really cares about this area.
And im about tired of them coming here using us for votes, then never keeping their end of their bargains.
Heck about like that VCEDA group of politicians. We'll let you mine the coal but i'll be damned if we will give you anything back. Same with state governemnt.
And as far as the topic. These companies don't pay that price for the gasoline that goes into their tanks. They shouldn't be able to raise prices until they have to pay for it first themselves. Talk about price gouging. Well many stations are doing it to us. How many paid $3.00 bucks a galllon for the gas that was sold for that much last time? I don't remember it being but about $2.25 or so. So someone made some huge profits. Even if it cost them more to get it in. Why did we pay their forcast price, yet they didn't price gouge? Yeah Right.
Couple ole sayings. It takes money to make money. And the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. And we will always have the poor with us, because they are what keep the country running, while the rich walk on their backs.

Exactly buddy who can you trust...They promise you a steak and give you the bone...Almost 99% are that way...If by chance someone does make find a decent Democrat or Republican to put in office the other idiots want him run off because he hurts their intregity...They don't want that in Washington or anywhere else for that matter.

Well lets just do away with our government and become a socialist country then. You have to put somebody in these postions guys. All you can do is push for than man or woman whom you think will benefit you the most. I mean thats really why we have democrats and republicans in the first place.

No what hurts things was Gilmore took advantage of people being told "hey I'm gonna cut your taxes and give you money" and the people who couldn't think went woooohooo money and voted for him. Of course the very people that helped for 1 year, it has hurt for several years since, but most people, including politicians, don't look at long term affects. They get people to bungy jump off the bridge, telling them how safe it is, don't measure the cord, and even if you don't die on the jump, they got no way to pull you back up.

That is the problem green we bascially have become a monarchy or a socialist country.
Look at who has done what the longest. Repbulican ran country we suffer due to being to out going. And increasing our debt.
Democratic run country we suffer from doing nothing at all. And basically standing still.
Basically were at that point.
Honestly. We have been there for quite some time. It makes no difference who is in office.
The old saying what have you done for me lately.
Well it applies. Ask anyone. Unless they got money. The working class is what keeps the country afloat, but their the least thought of and the most taxed.
Yeah the rich get taxed but at a rate they can afford without suffereing. And why? their the one's who drive the economy.
Like i said awhile back. How many fuel companies have given to the Katrina catastrophe? None.
Any one seem to get an ideal of real politics.
Republican or Democrat it's all about making themselves look good. And re-election of their party.
So where do we not have that society, many vote party line due to what? Old believes. Like i said i work for the state. Ole saying is Republican runs, vote republican, guaranteed a raise.
Yet years later when a Democrat wins your guaranteed to hear what. The debt created by the republicans, so no raises and massive layoffs.
Hmm but were not at a socialist society yet. No we just tetter back and forth from it.

Well you know, you may be right Greencrest, those evil people may have lead Dickenson County straight to the gates of hell...of course I dont recall it being much better before them, we had to borrow money a few years back to pay bills at the end of the year. I also recall a few years back when the board was swung the other way, that they tried to send money back to the state saying we had good enough roads. So both sides are idiots [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

However if you want to say the Democrats screwed up Dickenson County, because of bad investment, or a decal tax, does that mean we can say the Republicans screwed up the country because of some bad spending??? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Politics is the land of stupidity, and lpd05 was right, they are all almost crooked , no matter what symbol they use [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Trust me, I used to be a very political person, but when you work around some of them, you find out there are good, there are bad on both sides, but most on either side can't see the forest for the trees.

It easier to say that Democrats or Republican screwed up the government at the local level than at the Federal level. At the federal level there is the checks and balances system. Everything has to be approved by both Democrats and Republicans. Bush just didnt start writing checks out that the U.S. couldnt cash by himself. Republicans and Demorcrats alike had to give him permission. At the local level however, if the vote is 4-1 in favor of the democrats, they have control, no mattter what and they are going to do what they want because they can. Nobody checks them. This is ecxactly what is going on in Dickenson county.

I agree whole heartedly that this country is going in the wrong direction with all this debt. Im sure that some people would have made some different decisions concerning Iraq knowing what we know now. And noone can do anything about these hurricanes. We as a country are going to have to unite for the betterment of ourselves.

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However if you want to say the Democrats screwed up Dickenson County, because of bad investment, or a decal tax, does that mean we can say the Republicans screwed up the country because of some bad spending???

Politics is the land of stupidity

[/ QUOTE ]This helps me to understand the ...love of Bush in DC- hehe- I'll lay my point out one more time, I'm not a liberal- but I HATE the OIL BIZ, you can see why now. One thing most of you are talking about in this thread, but haven't really put into words-about politics. Folks choose this field cause it's EASIER than working. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] And the decal, most of the neighbors got them to collect taxes they had levied that they were not smart enough to collect, then it becomes a cash cow.

Anybody remember the case where Lee county fired bunch of Republicans, and got sued, back in the 70s , had some family in that bunch. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]You never know where the Ole Dawg has had his nose , or Mr. Wolfe. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

One more comment-Rita has been downgraded to a 3.