Virginia preps regarding Phil Robbins

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why are the people of powell valley still letting this scum of the earth continue to coach their children, and where is the vhsl at letting this go on. look at these quotes from robbins after the lost to haysi. "I've got sophomores who don't have much lead in their britches. and if thats not bad enough heres another, How good is Haysi? "Good enough to get beat by two touchdowns next week by Giles County,'' Robbins replied.
is this what the coaches of losing teams say, i dont think so, the vhsl should be ashmed that this man is still coaching, how does this show good sportsmanship for the kids on that team. iv never seen a comment like this from any coach after they lost, yeah im from giles and u may say were whinning agian but we seen his so called sportsmanship when after we were beat like 30 some to 7 i think and no chance of winning last year so called coach robbins called a pass on 4th down for a touchdown with less than a min left in the game and then goes for the 2 point conversion after that. and then in the paper bragged about calling that play, yeah i know pv fans we should had stopped the pass but tell me the last time u were beat and the other team did that to you? and now these comments, i bet haysi is mad and we dont blame you, ask the gw people about ragsdale running the clock out by taking a knee at there 5yd line with about 2 min to go. sure we all get on here and talk and have fun and get carried away sometimes, but robbins goes way to far, and to tell u the truth giles fans did want pv to win saturday so we could get another shot and get back for last year, but i can tell u this if we were up by 30 with 1 min to go coach ragsdale would had been on the 1 yd and still took a knee, this is why coach ragsdale is one of the most respected coaches in the state hell in the united states, i just wish my son would be able to play for him before he retires, he still coaches the ole fashion way works hard at it and gives 150% to those kids and expects the same out of them and respects the other teams players and coaches, theres been times giles could had scored 100 on other teams but why humilate the kids after its hard enough on them to lose in the first place, and its not only coach ragsdale but every team we play in the district and in the playoffs except for robbins does the same thing, and u robbins should know this better than anyone i was on the field last year when u lost to mp and brad went running off the field balling his eyes out, it was hard for him to lose that game and theres nothing wrong with that he was still a kid and it hurt to lose because he was competive, but u dont mind embarasing other kids do you? so robbins the next time theres a coaching clinic on sportsmanship ill pay ur way so you can learn something you know nothing about.


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Posted on 11/28 10:37 PM | IP: 151.199.113.98


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Bad attitude. I agree on that part. Believe it or not before Robbins came to PV back in the early 80s our football team had terrible seasons. I don't remember because I wasn't born but I have been told.

I agree with you on some things there. He's got a bad attitude but he is a good coach. To tell you the truth I played JV football for a week (and yes I quit for band). I didn't ever want to play for Coach Robbins. He never coached JV but still. Some things I agree with that he does and some I don't.

But about the running up the score deal, I'm not going to talk about what Giles should have done. But there have been worse. No not from PV. Back in 2002 D1 State Championship William Campbell vs. Appalachia. William Campbell left their starters in the whole game and the final score was WC 70, Appy 0. The play last year wasn't really anything compared to that. Another score of interest and from this year in Tennessee Alcoa vs. some other team. Alcoa really runs it up. Alcoa wins 91 to 7 and no that isn't a typo. The score was 70 to 0 at halftime for that game according to the news. That is the worst one.

I'm a band dork and proud

Posted on 11/28 11:04 PM | IP: 67.20.41.138


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i wouldnt have my kids playing for someone like that. thats no high school football. he's dogging his players. giles, and haysi. how good is haysi?? good enough to win the region D. thats how good they r. PV sure as hell wasnt



Posted on 11/28 11:16 PM | IP: 151.199.93.87


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how can u say hes a good coach, just winning football games is not a good coach, how about showing these kids that everything in life is not about winning but how u handle urself wether u win or lose and as far as not winning before he got there ur crazy, i seen the jones brothers play football any decent coach could had those titles with those teams and when julias was a senior that team could had beat any team in the state of va. i agree with you on william campbell, and i dont know the team in tennesee, but if its true ur right there no better than robbins and they shouldnt be coaching either. at some time the parents have to make a desicion is it worth it just to win a game in football, or win the game of life!
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Posted on 11/28 11:32 PM | IP: 151.199.113.98



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i argee with u roadkill goodpost...

Posted on 11/29 2:26 AM | IP: 198.82.168.138


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I would'nt have believed it if you had'nt gave the link. Wow, I'm speachless, pretty poor sportsmanship for a coach. Apparently Robbins knows the game of football, but has a lot to learn about humility. Don't blame the Powell Valley kids for the ignorance of a coach, those kids work hard, are the reason for their success and deserve respect, I'm afraid Robbins believes it is all about him.

Posted on 11/29 6:06 AM | IP: 24.197.17.103


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Before Robbins went to PV he was the coach at Christiansburg!
I don't care what anyone says, calling the pass last year against Giles was just a slap in the face. Why?

I will admit, I am not a fan of RAgsdale but he does call teh dogs off. During teh season, I see scores like Giles 30 and East Mont 13. After reading the paper, I realize that he took teh starters out and ran the clock down. Ragsdale took a knee on the goaline at FLoyd in 2001. However, I guess some may view that as being cocky.

Robbins appears to be an arrogant jerk and I hope 1 day Floyd gets a shot at them. He seems to have no PR as he makes comments like that in the paper. What are you telling your sophmores that you will coach the next 2 years? I have no idea why he made the statement about Haysi. I am sure they are a good team and could win on Sat. There are alot of caches that I would not want my children to play for but most of them don't show their rear in the papers!

I appreciate the staff at Floyd who shows class and I feel treats the kids with respect.

Posted on 11/29 10:11 AM | IP: 66.37.69.254


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Phil came to PV just after we won the first state title in school history so we had not had too many bad seasons. Coach James Bolling was the head coach at the school and had began to get the program together. He was promoted to an administration job after winning the title.

Posted on 11/29 10:41 AM | IP: 208.19.254.22

what robbins said was totaly uncalled for....the better team won saturday...phil needs to retire and retire fast...haysi is a great team and desrevs to win state. i believe that Phil couldn't take getting beat...i have no respect for the man myself...congrats to haysi...and to phil......give up. powell valley is no longer a power house.

hahaha, I hope pv wins state next year. People take Robbins way too serious. Its not like he murdered anyone, yet everyone acts like it. Robbins is much like Spurrier, hate him or love him, hes a good coach. If you want your kid to be a good football player send him to Phil Robbins. If you want your kid to be a gracious loser send him to John Crockett [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You're a moron.

Phil stays until he wants to leave.
7 state titles, eat that.

You are now, the worst poster on this forum, you should probably hang yourself.

Juggernaut, youre an idiot if you think 1 down year in which they play for the region title makes them no longer a powerhouse.

no..im not an idiot...give them credit..they did good with what they had...they are a good team, but their not a great team

Yeah, I belive you are an idiot.

i agree
i played 4 years for the man and i love him to death

I agree with biggin. Its like one year has made you forget about all the other years. I would say there is a pretty good chance that PV will be right back in the thick of a state title next year.

i think they will win it all next year
and i cant wait to watch them

yes.powell valley was great in the years when brad robbins played...the problem with powell valley is yall think yall cant be beten...yall found out yall could this year huh..clintwood and burton beat yall..teams people chose yall to beat...powell valley is a good team..they probably could get into the state final next year.that still doesnt erase what phil said

last time I checked, PV won a dynasty worth of state titles before Brad Robbins ever played. I graduated and support burton, but there is no denying Powell Valley's greatness. They are the greastest single A program in the history of Virginia high school football.

PV knew they could get beat.

Sorry but a lot of schools have that same attitude.

phil robbins....haha i cant stand him but i have to give him credit..... he is one hell of a coach...

bad attitude...great coach

http://www.texashsfootball.com/board...showtopic=4017

I'm not surprised with his comments. Phil has no consience. He has always been arrogant, and he talks before he thinks. However, if you have had a chance to play for him you know you have a chance to win championships. Is arrogance is almost funny, but I agree it is uncalled for.

No longer a powerhouse.......yeah okay I believe that [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Powell Valley was fairly young this season and played for the region D title what does that say about the next few seasons, you do the math

Phil Robbins is a good coach, however when he came to Big Stone Gap he more or less walked into an ideal situation as far as coaching high school football goes:

* Powell Valley had just won their first state championship the year before his arrival.
* A strong feeder (little league) program had already been put into place by those who came before him.
* Powell Valley was by far the largest school in Region D.
* Big Stone Gap was pretty much a hub for business/job opportunities, so the place to live in or near abouts was Big Stone. For the most part as far as Wise County goes, this still holds true to this day. Bottom line - more families in the area = more talent to choose from.

I personally would give the community more credit than they currently are given.

Robbins was a head coach for 12 years before becoming the head coach of Powell Valley:

1971 - 1976 John Battle (15-42-3), 25% winning percentage

1977 - 1982 Christiansburg (32-28-1), 52.4% winning percentage

1983 - 2005 Powell Valley (228-55), 80.5% winning percentage

Again, Phil Robbins is a good coach no doubt. But Big Stone Gap/Powell Valley made Phil Robbins a winner, not the other way around.

Yeah having around 50 people to choose from each year really helps but Robbins is a good coach

Haha, the old winning percentage link. How people argue against the fact that PV has the best Football Program in the area I'll never know.

What he said was far from being classy but was it the first time? I don't know why anyone would be shocked at Robbins showing a lack of class or poor sportsmanship...heck he was mad at Haysi before the game because they wouldn't give him his way and give up their home field advantage which they earned and play the game where HE wanted it to be played...its amazing that a guy who has won 7 state championships is as well known(if not more) for those reasons around the state as he is for his winning program...just amazing and embarrassing but probably not to him.

Of course they're the best football program. But Robbins isn't the best coach.

Guys, Coach Robbins isn't a saint. None of us are, but I really dont see how you can sit and judge the man without knowing him. I actually give Robbins credit for saying what he thought, I think he, I, you, and everybody else knew going into the year that the Region and LPD especially was down this season. This is not to say that Haysi cant win or isn't going to win, it's just not likley. Some people need to open up their eyes and stop seeing things they way they choose to. Does Robbins get a lot of talent? Yes. Does he know how to coach? Yes, you put those two things together and you are going to win. I'll give him credit for putting the spread offense in, it was a smart move our toughest competition is GC and they are big, strong, and slow. Granted running the spread kills us when we play Norton if the teams are evenly matched or if Norton is better. I guess all I'm saying is I'm not going to knock on a guy for saying what he thought, thats whats wrong with our country now is people not giving their opinions. Those of you know me know that you can ask me anything and I'll tell you what I think about it. I personally think it's a good thing, and when Coach Robbins comes out in the paper next year and says we should have the best team in the district I'll back him up again.

I'll say this, Phil is able to win most of the time as a coach. That being said, PV with the talent/numbers there would win with most of us coaching as much or nearly as much, as long as we had good assistant staff.

Phil is arrogant, we've all watched or most all of us have watched Varsity Blues, Phil is Kilmer. He wins. He gets titles, but the problem is he loses touch and is more worried about him than he is the players, what people actually think of him or anything 'life related'.

I mean sure ok, if he thinks that Haysi will lose to Giles by 14, hey more power to him, but if you want your players to be anything near classy, as a coach, you have to be something near classy. I have no problem with him saying that, as I've heard other coaches say 'off the record etc etc", but to just blurt it out, shows that he doesn't respect anybody. It would be different if this was the first time he had done that, I mean you're right, nobody is perfect, sometimes heat of the moment, anybody can slip but with Phil its a reoccuring theme. Anytime that things don't go his way, Phil whines. It's the field, it's the travel, its any number of excuses. The rumor that I heard was this, that before the year or maybe even in the past couple years, it was talked about scheduling the playoff games at UVA-Wise. The 2 biggest opponents to this, PV and GC. Now why would that be the case? Because most of the time, they're the ones who get the home field advantage, so they're the ones losing that home field advantage (more often than not), so what happenes, one of them, this time PV doesn't get it, and the first thing they want is another team to give up their home field advantage. I don't know if thats true, but it really makes sense and I could set it being valid discussion.

I know a lot of people from PV area like Phil, I know a lot don't. Heck I respect what the PV program can do and has done, but I don't have a lot of respect for Phil. Phil is the type who would be your best friend when he needs your assistance on something and would sell you out 10 minutes later if it benefited him, not PV, but him or his legend. If Phil made the comments he makes and PV didn't win, he would be ran out of town on a rail, the only reason he isn't is because they win more often than not.

It always has disappointed me that Phil and Mack Shupe didn't get to square off in sports more. They both are very similar. They both are smart, they both are good coaches who had very good pools of talent, and who was able to win but forgot that a coach is only as good as the talent on the field. We all know that, we've seen incredible coaches unable to win at one place, another place they turn into world beaters. Bill Belichick, choked in big games in Cleveland, in New England, he's a genius. Mike Holmgren (sp) was great in Green Bay with Favre but in Seattle, has yet to win (Might win some more this year, but they took alot of his power away in the off-season as well).

The talent/players make the coach, the coach makes decent talent/good talent into winners. No talent, your best coach can make them look fair at best. That's something I think Phil forgets. Hey if Giles can beat Haysi by 14, they can beat them by 14, and that will be bad for Haysi, but obviously Haysi was better than PV. I'd love for someone to say well coach does that mean they would beat you by 17 since Haysi beat you. When he makes his smart comment, fire one back, but the problem is the media has the class to not ask that question to Phil.

Heck I could have won State with the Jones guys...So what does that say?

I don't have a problem with saying what you think but that was not the appropriate arena for such a comment. Shouldn't Rush Limbaugh or Jimmy the Greek have been allowed to say what they thought as well? Whatever happened to if you don't have anything good to say then don't say it at all? I think what is wrong with our country is people not having any respect for their fellow man. What if every coach starts saying what they think at the moment without thinking it through? What if Spurrier got on TV after beating Tennessee and said what he really thought...something like: "well we're not that good but they're just pitiful"? Or what if Colobro after beating PV so bad in the playoffs a few years back would have said "hey those guys just suck"?

Point being I don't really care what Robbins says and I'm sure not too many people do but it just shows a blatant disrespect for his opponents and fellow coaches and the best thing to do would be to accept that for what it is and not sugarcoat it by trying to make it ok...its not ok and its sad but it is the way he is and thats fine we can all live with that. Its kinda nice to have someone like that around if you think about it...gives you more motivation when you play them, or at least it should.

I agree with most of what you said. Does winning ball games make a coach "good"?? I don't think so. There is such a thing as "tact", you know, and Phil don't have it. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I don't know Phil Robbins personally so I really can't judge him. I've read his comments and to say the least you can tell he is all about coaching and teaching his players to strive to win. I for one like his aggressive approach in coaching. Phil obviously just speaks his mind regardless of who hears it. We all are guilty of that. I do agree he should watch how he speaks his feelings toward his players. There should be some kind of line drawn between coaching and just insulting your players. Phil IMO is a great coach and he is not out to be on everyone's #1 list. I would have no problem sending my son to play for him. I believe everyone puts too much into this sometimes, he is a man who doesn't like defeat and speaks before he thinks. I am sure he loves this sport as much as any of us do and he loves the kids he coaches. He is good at his job and unless there is some kind of abuse coming from him I wouldn't pay too much attention to him. Phil has made some statements that he probably shouldn't but that don't change the fact of all the success that PV has had with him either. I give the players just as much credit if not more cause they are the ones that have worked hard and also made Phil look good too. No need in downing his players. Phil is a man who expects hard work, dedication and alot out of his players. I see nothing wrong in that. Let him coach and unless something terrible wrong is going on between him and his players then I think everyone else should leave him alone and let him continue to coach. I have been to other schools and let me tell you, those coaches say worse than what I have ever heard Phil say. Let him be stern, let him expect his players to give it their all, let him push his boys to the limit. Let him show us all that he can do his job and keep doing what he does best and that is to win. I wish more coaches had his attributes as far as coaching goes. The best thing Phil should do is just learn how to control his emotions when he is upset. But like it or not he will never like defeat.

Most on this board have obviously not been around or heard Phil speak much. Phil has always made shrude and cocky remarks, and he always will. That is just the way he is. When he commented about Haysi losing next week, he meant every word of it and won't lose any sleep over it. Phil is and always has been controversial, and there isn't a coach, fan, friend or anyone for that matter that will tell you much different. A lot of people don't like the man, but they respect what he has accomplished.

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I don't know Phil Robbins personally so I really can't judge him.

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This being your first sentence, how can you then make these following comments? I just added the "highlights" of your posting, but one could point at the entire post if they wanted to do so.

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Phil obviously just speaks his mind regardless of who hears it. Phil is a man who expects hard work, dedication and alot out of his players. I have been to other schools and let me tell you, those coaches say worse than what I have ever heard Phil say. I wish more coaches had his attributes as far as coaching goes.

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I thought you said you didn't know him? Sounds like you are drawing conclusions or you actually do know him. Either way, you contradicted yourself more than once.

No I don't know him personally. I just made my comments based on what comments he has said. Yes he sounds arrogant and with an attitude he don't care what people think about him. But that don't mean he is a man who should be thrown out of coaching. The best way to determine if Phil should keep coaching is leave that decision up to his players. All of my comments were based upon what he has said out in the open for all to hear and also what some of his players have said on this board about how they feel about him. No one disagrees on how he can't accept defeat. I think the big question is should he still coach.

I'll agree that Robbins knows his stuff. But you can't deny the fact he has a supply of talent only Gate City can rival. If he's so great, could he have done the same with a Pound or Appy team with vastly smaller numbers? I don't think so. Should he still coach? I don't think so. But leave it up to the players? No. Those are teenagers we're talking about. I say leave it up to the players' parents. Phil has an attitude, no doubt. And the most disturbing part of it is that it tends to spill over into his players. Where do you think they got that "We're PV, we're the best, and we can't be beat" cocky attitude from? Ma and Pa didn't teach 'em that. I know, I graduated from PV and had that slight attitude problem. And I never noticed I did until I started following the Appy program. I've also heard that a former TE of Phil's and current Appy assistant has made comments similar to mine. But I also heard he once said he was coaching at the wrong school. You know how heresay goes. You be the judge.

You may be right about everything you said. Like I said I don't know Phil Robbins only when I see him at the games. I know of some kids from PV who have told me they would never play for him. I don't know what goes on in PV or on the practice field with just him and his players. Maybe it is worse than what all that we have heard. Only his players and the parents know that. I believe he has some good coaching skills but like I said before if there is more than what has been said then your right the parents need to step in and do something about it. I don't care either way what they do. PV has alot more to choose from in sports I will agree. Could Phil take a small school and do just as good, I don't know. He probably would never want to even coach a small school where talent isn't there as much as a bigger school. If he ever said he was at the wrong school then let him leave he knows where the door is. As far as PV kids having an attitude that they are better than everyone else well every school has some that act cocky. Also from every town there are some parents who act like this too. They are teenagers like you said and really it may be annoying but it is a sport and too much can be put into it.

He knows where the door is. LMAO!! Good answer!! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/evillaughter.gif

I think its a mute point to argue who has the players and the talent vs coaching. Unless you have talented players, all the coaching in the world wont help. Unless you can coach well the most talented players will go to waste. regardless of school or not, you just have to look around our own league. Do you think Coach Shupe is any less of a coach? He had guys throwing in the high 80's low 90's. guys hitting the ball into the driving range at Shupe field, but without his coaching along with his most important asset his assistants, turned talent into planks of wood. Coach Turner has had some of the most talented teams in SWVA, does that make him any less a coach? I dont think so, he harbors that style of give me some talent and Ill make them give me more then they thought they ever could.
I agree with Mega, Coach Robbins, reminds me alot of Spurrier, he says things because in all honesty, he can. People put as much stock into what hhe says as they want too. Grain of salt or a 2 page topic on a message board. Regardless, it sparks debate.

I don't see how anybody can call Haysi a "great team". They got this big build up just for beating PV, probably the youngest playoff team in the state. Haysi will fall. SOON and HARD.

Good point, it takes coaching and players. Look at the other sports at PV they have the same great athletes that Coach Robbins has and the other sports are no where near the level of the football program. I disagree with him on the whole home field thing, it should be played at the highest seed. I said this in 03 I guess it was when people talked of playing it at Wise. To the people on here who posted about him not caring about his players, I can honestly say your badly mistaken. There is no doubt in my mind that with the 18 seniors we lost in 04 that he doesn't know exactly what each and everyone of them is doing. The man his faults but dont we all, am I any less of a person because I fuss and cuss at officials at ball games? I'd take him over any other coach around here in any sport. The reference to Shupe was a good one, they are pretty similar. Granted I've not spent as much time with Shupe but how they come off is pretty much the same way. You all act like cokiness is a bad thing, but stop and think for a second. Have you ever seen a great coach, player, gm, owner, or whatever that wasn't cocky? My friend biggin and I play rook together, and I'll take us against anybody in the world. Is that cocky? Yes, but I think you have to think that way when you go into play. Some of the fans from schools who dont like his attitude might need to stop and look out onto the field, I guarantee you this if he was your alls head coach the players would think they were going to win. Theres not a time that we ever played when I didn't think we had a chance and to me when your dealing with teenagers that means a lot. My final point on this is if you dont think he cares about his players look at what some of his ex players are doing after football, I understand he's not totally responsible but I think some good citizens have been turned out of the PV Football Program.

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Heck I could have won State with the Jones guys...So what does that say?

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Honestly I have no idea of your knowledge of the game of football. You probably know quite a bit and even if you did win with the Jones Brothers do you think you could've won the other three? Could you have called plays that would allowed your team to drive down the field and win a state title game by one point? Like I said I really dont know your knowledge of the game but I dont know of many people that have done that.

Trust me I know alot about the game of football...I never said anything about the other three...I was saying I'd say alot of people including all the coaches in the LPD could have won titles with Thomas and Julius...Including myself. Don't you think you could have?