Crockett and his players

Once again, PV loses another player with great potential. Fleenor, the entire team one year, and now Cedric Mitchell. I am not saying it is all Crockett's fault however does one not think that he plays a part in this? This team will fall apart imo and that is sad with all the potential they had, my fear is that other players will follow. I've been around these kids and I wouldn't be shocked to see the Pinkston's follow suit. Crockett needs to go, his coaching style is sad, and his discipline and control of his players is even worse. I've been told that Crockett feels that he doesn't have a pressing team, people look at our team. Against Haysi we stayed in a zone that was packed in until they hit upteen million threes on us and even then he waited til the fourth quarter to get out of it. The man has no control or idea what is going on the court or how to keep his players. The fans, players, alumni, and students understand and realize this and talk about it privately. I'm tired of it being talked about in private, you can ask old players, fans, alumni, students, other coaches from around the LPD and just basketball fans and they will tell you he is not a good coach. What once looked like a great run of PV basketball teams looks to be going down the drain due to poor coaching and discipline.

Hire Darrell Dingus Ely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad I'm not one of those people who try to hide my identiy on here. Be honest Hearl what do you think of our coach?

I think he really needs to look at his personnel and make better decisions on running certain defenses and actually run some offense.

i think they should turn the gym into a indoor football practice facility or an indoor swimming pool

PV needs to hire Kory Bostic as the Head B-ball coach. He would be fun to play under and I'm sure the kids would love to play under him.

I talked to cedric today at school, he is not going to play basketball this year.We need to get rid of Crockett. This will be another year that the Vikings have the talent to go to the region tournament but will not becasue of poor coaching. I also talked to some other basketball players and about 3 of them are thinking about quiting. I wouldnt be suprised to see malcolm, palmer, and spurlock to follow being Cedric. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

As many years as I have been removed from PV sports, especially football and basketball, I have to say that I agree about Crockett. I was shocked when he was hired as head coach. Given, I haven't seen him coach a single game @ PV, but I do remember how he was as a JV coach @ Appy. PV basketball has spent the last two decades in turmoil. Some of it is outside influence and some of it is brought on by the head coach. There hasn't been as much basketball talent since '98, and emphasis on development of the PV basketball program has gotten worse from what I hear. PVfan, I understand where you are coming from, but until an overall attitude change with the program takes place from top to bottom, you will continue to see the same product on the floor year after year.

I think it is just a tough sport to coach at a school like that. Where football and track have such a big pull. I really think that is why Kelly has not had as much success during baseball season while at PV. He has had the athletes, and a few good ball players, but they still lose atleast 2 or 3 potential starters every year.

Ok MItchell quit!!!! Any reason why? It seems like every year P.V. has a few players that don't stick it out. If the j.v. team is so good why doesn't Crockett bring a few of those kids up. Im not going to get on here and dog any coach by any means. Coaching is one of the toughest things ever...people always have their own opinions.

"If the j.v. team is so good why doesn't Crockett bring a few of those kids up"

jv and varisty is a different game...just like high school and college is a totally different game

So whats so wrong with Crockett the reason his kids quit on him? I mean honestly, quitters have bad attitudes. If they are gonna quit, than maybe they just arent "coachable" when it comes to basketball.

Seriously though, why do they quit for? Is Crockett just to mean, too hard on them? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

if someone ever quits a sport because a coach is too "hard" on them, they seriously need to fill that empty sack with a tater..or 2

I agree with you knight_67 if your gonna start playing a sport, you should stick it out.

But seriously have you guys seen Crockett coach.........The Haysi game was horrible........played a 2-3 zone for 3 quarters and let Haysi shoot the lights out of the ball.........then in the 4th quarter he went man to man and they cut the lead to 6, but Haysi pulled away............I also heard that he told a player that they weren't a pressing team.....look at the quickness he has on the team.............the offense cracks me up.......PG brings the ball up the floor, one pass and the ball is in the air......run some offense, set screens, work the ball around for an open shot this is not college we don't have a shot clock.............

Another thing I did not understand from the Haysi game, is PV was on a 7-0 run, and had the momentum......and Crockett calls a timeout as soon as PV was taking off on a fast break...........beats all I've ever seen..............

I know coaching is hard, but when you have the talent he has, and still can't make a regional tournament something has got to give......................

Listen guys. I know Crockett has had his share of brain farts, but all of us have. As far as boys quitting, then let them quit. I know if I was coaching I sure wouldn't ask them to come back. That just let's them know that you aren't in control at all. Frustration is one of life's experiences, maturity comes out of learning to deal with life's "bumps and bruises" I see the same thing happening here at P.V. basketball as what has happened in the past with Kelly's football program. We all have to learn, I certainly have.

But Coach Crockett was LPD Coach of the Year last year! How can he be so bad if that's the case? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I was thinking the same thing. He was a great coach last year. COY in LPD.

Brad was POY too, remember that???

Crap in, crap out.

Its not my fault that everyone else realzlied who the best was.

I have a hard time seeing how Crockett is sooo bad. He coached the 91 Appy JV to an undefeated season. He also coached football. Coach Crockett is a different person, but his personality and coaching abilities are unique. I would have to say that he was my favorite teacher at Appy. John isn't running the players off, IMO. He's just letting them know that it's his show and his rules. You can like it or leave. John will continue to do fine and be his self. With or without his "superstars".

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Sure do, and no one is on here just a few months later saying what a terrible basketball player he is either. Unlike the COY.

Crockett shouldn't say my way or the highway. He should understand PV is a football school. Always has been and always will be. He should understand this and take what he gets and have fun with it. If he coached at Council or something I could understand him being this way but most players at PV probably aren't diehard basketball guys. It is probably something just to do between football and track.

I agree with you about that. But John is John. You know how some people are. They know the potential of their players and sometimes it takes some "tough love" to bring this talent to the surface. John has very good abilities. I hope he does well to show the quiters what they missed and could have been a part of.

I remember in the 70's, P.V. had the best basketball program around under the coaching of Burrell Paye. He had players like Joe Berta, Barry Hamler, etc. Powell Valley never really became a football school until the arrival of coach Bolling. What I am trying to say is the the big blue machine may have rusted a little bit, but nothing a little bit of oil won't fix. Crockett is a good coach and as the coach, he must maintain the discipline; otherwise, you will have what happened with Preston Mitchell years, start all over again. All this reminds me of what has recently happened at Philadelphia.....remember T.O. and the Eagles?? He thought he couldn't be stopped, I guess Andy and the staff put a stop to that.

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otherwise, you will have what happened with Preston Mitchell years

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Yeah we would hate for Powell Valley to actually start winning again lol.

Seriously, what was so bad that happend when Preston Mitchell was there? Being on the other side of some ass kickings, it sure looked like everything was peachy keen on their side. They were a very disciplined basketball team too.

still havent figured out why the mitchell kid quit..?

Mitchel quit so he can work on getting better at football and stronger, and he said he wasnt having fun playing basketball. Cedric has been working out with murphy every day this week.

I agree with you dawg, I can remember when PV was a basketball school under Burrell Paye. He wouldn't settle for anything less. I've seen him hit players over the head with a clipboard.

And what are you doing moon pie? sittin around? you need to get your butt in the weight room too

i think mitchell is stupid for quittin! you dont quit a sport because of the coach..and u dont play a sport because of a coach... u play a sport because you love it...its foolish and stupid to quit if your a good ball player! it hurts the team and ur teamates.. FIRE CROCKETT AND GET SOMEONE IN THERE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!

I think that PV_RULES_LPD or Dobber or whatever his name is would be a great head basketball and football coach at PV. Nobody would see him so nobody can blame him for the wins or losses.

That is just typical of PV. If their not winning a championship then its the coaches fault. LOL. Crockett is a good coach.....Cut the man some slack he has a lot of young players.

I dont think Crockett is a good coach, but at the same time, its laughable that so many people in this thread think they have the answers like you guys are the General Manager of a madden franchise. First off, its high school basketball, you only get so much amount of time with your players, how he choses to use his time I dont know, but to say he needs to be more involved with 7th graders is about the dumbest post of the year. Stan Wilson is going on 500 wins and over 30 seasons of good basketball. Other than driving the bus to take some 7th graders to summer camp, he hasnt done one thing in his whole damn life that had to do with basketball regarding kids that werent even in high school.

Granted, Crockett might stand to make some adjustments, try some new things, but to say he doesnt work hard and isnt involved is just stupidity on youralls behalf. No coach wants to lose, no coach wants to be criticized. He might not be the best coach, but listening to half the retardation on here, I have a feeling he's a better basketball coach than most of you guys. Sometimes you guys just bitch to be bitching and thats unjustifiable.

I agree with you. Most of the people on here didn't play basketball and to think they know all there is to know about basketball is totally ridiculus. I don't know much about it, probably cause I never cared for it, but I wish some of these people who "profess" to know all there is to know about it, would get off the bleachers and coach it themselves.

hahah blaimg a bad season on a coach is some stupid stuff!! You cant have a good basketball season when players are quitting because of a sport thats more than half a year away. I've never played for Crockett, but he's got a different way of doing things. And if you love a sport then you adjust to that, you dont do it your own way.
Theres no reason for anyone to blame this on the coach, hes not out there playin. IMO, hes doing all he can. He tells them what to do, its up to them how they perform.

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