Holy Cow, Miami cleaned house

UM fires at least four football coaches
By SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN
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The University of Miami fired at least four of its assistant football coaches Monday morning, three days after Louisiana State embarrassed the Hurricanes 40-3 in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl.

Gone are two of its most entrenched leaders: Assistant head coach Art Kehoe, who also served as offensive line coach and played at Miami; and running backs coach Don Soldinger.

Also gone: offensive coordinator Dan Werner and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves.

Head coach Larry Coker and senior associate athletic director Pete Garcia delivered the news to the coaches. It was unknown as of 9:30 a.m. if anyone else was fired.

''I got fired. I wish I didn't, but I did,'' Kehoe said. ``I have to move on with my life and take care of my family now.

``I am eternally grateful to the University of Miami for giving me one of the greatest lives you could ever have in college football. We won more games, more national titles, more bowl games, more big games.. When you think about it, I owe everything to this school.

any chance this backfires in recruiting

who was recruiting Marcus Ball for Miami?

Miami isnt recruiting Ball, he doesnt have the grades to get in so its a mute issue. Recruting is very overrated for them, good coaches who develop players is the biggest issue with the program. Look at what Weiss did in ND, what Galen Hall has done at Penn State, and what the new OC has done at Texas. Miami will get good recruits no matter what, Marcus Ball wouldnt develop at Miami with Vernon Hargreaves coaching him.

how can you not have the grades to get into Miami? lol

Miami's standards are similar to notre dame's these days for athletes. When Shalala came in, she up'd the minimum SAT/GPA scores and changed the requirements for high school classes to be taken to get into Miami. Miami is one of the better schools in the ACC. Obviously Duke, UVA, Wake, and UNC are better but they are def. closer to the top than they are the bottom.

why thank you...we will gladly accept Ball [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

have at it. He would have sat on the bench for 2 years as a safety at miami regardless. Hes a good player but 1 player is not a team make.

This is a start. Good to see that the folks from The U are committed to cleaning this mess up. Too bad the axe hasn't fell on Joker yet.

I think he can become a figure head like Bowden, but he definietly needs to get the best assistants.

I cant post the article because its a pay article but he fired soldiger and hargreaves and didnt even give them a reason why he fired them. They asked why they were being fired and he said he would rather not get into it. Thats some fat Phil crap right there, I dont have nearly as much respect for Coker anymore.

I agree. If I were an assistant coach who's boss fired me, I'd hope that he'd at least have the testicular fortitude to tell me why. Heck the RB coach? That's iffy anyway. Yeah, fire the OC obviously.
So the question for us is who's out there that we'd want at OC to start with? Miami is an attractive lure, so we should have a broad list, but with the turmoil at this time, we would have to have a tough as nails thick-skin no doubt.

Id like to have Chow, hes not happy in the pro game so he might be leaving but I dont know if he would ever come to miami. He worked for chuck amato so he would probably work for anybody.

Whoever they get though, they need a guy who has a system that has sound blocking schemes. You know as well as I do, when miami is good, they are blocking well and when they are bad, they arent blocking anything. We need to block well and get the ball in the playmakers hands. There was no run after catch in Werner's system and that was a huge knock against it. If we get a college assistant, I hope its someone from out west, maybe an ASU, Oregon, or USC assistant.

Chow would be my dream come true, but I don't think we'll be that lucky. Our hideous O-Line this year was the worst I have ever seen at Miami (speaking of not blocking). I've wanted to vomit more than once knowing that we had speed to do great things YAC, and had nothing designed by WEINER to utilize it [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Yeah I mean, how can you have Devin Hester on your team for 3 years and not know how to get him involved. Look at what Ginn was doing today, just amazing. Get the ball in his hands and good things happen.

Just wait, Hester will be a pretty decent pro, it may take him time to develop but he should contribute on punts and kicks right away.

Moonlight, that's the best line I've heard in weeks.

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LSU beat Miami. Miami crushed Virginia Tech. So in theory UT is better than VT.

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VT beat WV UGA beat UT and WV is crushing UGA. So what does that make? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Unless you are a student at Duke, Vandy, Stanford, Virginia, or a small handful of other schools, to make light of Miami academically (BTW-the Business Dept at The U has been ranked #1 in the nation more times than not year after year) is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Looks like UGA is coming back.

hey, we have the #2 engineering dept in the world

I didn't say it was true, I just said it was a good line.

oceanography and marine bilogy are tops too.

Up until this past summer, I managed a townhome community in Blacksburg. This community catered primarily to Virginia Tech students, athletes included.

Sad to say, there are ways of 'meeting' the acedemic requirements without actually having the ability to meet those standards. It's coaching... how to pass certain exams, etc. (other students do the same thing). I discovered this in my day-to-day dealings with these folks.

I dealt with many athletes - many football players. Many had the inability to even take care of their own affairs. I had so many mothers call me to take care of their sons' business "Hi, My son is a football player at Tech....."
Had to have their mommies call and find out where the breaker box was, how to turn off water, etc.

This may sound harsh, but I have to say it. Some of these students are dumb as bricks, and terribly immature (athletes and non-athletes alike). There are ways of getting in.

Graduate school is where the genuine students and the wanna-bes are separated.

All of these guys that were fired will be sought after by other schools, and they'll do well. As some on here have heard me say before--Success is determined not only by talent &amp; knowledge, but being savvy enough to know when change is needed, even if things are going relatively well. Success is thankfully coming at Miami before a full out-and-out meltdown commences. Just hope they find some really great guys to put in place at Miami that will get the talent in there and cultivate it to win National Titles, not get Peach Bowl appearances.

BTW--I was signature #124 on the "Fire Coker" petition going around. He's a great football coach and a class act, but if you're not winning the games you should win and underacheiving with the talent Miami gets year-in/year-out, then you must go.

I will admit that I admire VPISU's engineering department, much better than ours no doubt, but no where near #2 in the world.
case in point:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/gra...rank_brief.php

Actually I take that back, VT's E-school is only 3 spots higher than ours. Look out!

that is rating the school as an engineering school...not the engineering dept which IS second in the world behind a school in germany