Proud of my Wildcats today. They hung tough through all the bad calls just to lose by 4. Good job, fellas. Had they gotten the calls that Duke gets on a regular basis, they'd have won by 10+.
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Proud of my Wildcats today. They hung tough through all the bad calls just to lose by 4. Good job, fellas. Had they gotten the calls that Duke gets on a regular basis, they'd have won by 10+.
haha..yeah
UNC looked good too...
yeah if we would have gotten the calls that UConn and Duke get we would have won by 10+...... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Doubt it...
I don't think the refs can swing the score 14+ points. Nobody gets every call every time and turns it into points.
All i have to say is
that you know your a great team when the post is called UK vs UCONN and Duke is getting mentioned.. Your not hated unless your good
Shut up and show me how to lift.
Well, you think wrong.
no, he doesn't...
UConn > Kentucky...as they showed on the court, refs or no refs
I didnt see the game so I have no idea about the refs however,
Just because Uconn is a better team than Kentucky doesnt mean Kentucky didnt deserve to win today. Carolina is better than George Mason, Pitt is better than Bradley but it doesnt mean that either team deserved to win today. The best team doesnt always win, thats very evident of this tournament.
Had uconn and villanova played UK and Arizona on friday instead of sunday both would be sitting at the house. Its all a matter of whose playing well on a given day and what matchups a team can benefit from.
UConn deserved to win more and they're a better team
99% of the time the team who deserves to win, does
yeah thats only logical but the best team doesnt always win, for all we know BC, UCLA or Gonzaga could win the tourney. It doesnt mean they are the best team, it just means they are playing well at the right time.
Then Holy Cross deserves to win every game they play.
Sorry about your luck, but when the refs blow that many blatantly bad calls and UCONN only wins by 4, it tells me that UK would have won if the game was evenly called. Apparently, you were watching a different game, so let me give you a small recap of the referees' ineptness:
1. Bobby Perry drives the lane and puts up a running one hander and gets hacked on the play, UCONN player CLEARLY goaltends the shot, no call.
2. Patrick Sparks and Williams from UCONN near the sideline, fight for the ball, goes out of bounds clearly off Williams, UCONN ball.
3. UCONN player gets ball in the post, Randolph Morris guards. UCONN player pivots all the way around Morris and on the last move, drags pivot foot at least 2 feet, no call.
4. Randolph Morris picks up his first foul with about 15:00 remaining in second half, which is good for him. But he fouls out in a span of the next 11 minutes, while Williams from UCONN picks up his 4th near the 10 minute mark and plays the rest of the game. Hmmmm.
5. Rudy Gay constantly over the back of KY's men in the paint.
Those were the memorable travesties in that game. There were many more that just don't come to mind at the time.
So you might want to watch the game before you make statements to the otherwise.
ive watched it...and rewatched it on tivo
im not a UConn fan nor am I a UK fan, maybe you need to look at the times some calls went against UConn too...in EVERY game there are gonna be calls that go against each of the teams, it happens every game...what happens is you have fans of a certain school who only (by no fault of their own) see the calls that go against his/her school of choice...it's life, im guilty of it too...but it doesnt mean UK deserved to win that game any more than UConn because of refs...it's not like UK played a spotless game
the thing about the NCAA tournament is that it's not the best team who can win...it's the best team on that given day...and with as deep as this tournament is you see a lot of "upsets"
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5. Rudy Gay constantly over the back of KY's men in the paint.
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Show me where "over the back" is in the rule book.
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5. Rudy Gay constantly over the back of KY's men in the paint.
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Show me where "over the back" is in the rule book.
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Dude, you know I've got your back most of the time...but...
That sounded exactly like the typical referee excuse to not call something that's blatently a foul--because the vernacular used for the foul by the person lobbying for it "isn't in the rule book"--not because it's actually not a foul.
I'm not calling you out, I'm just saying that's the first thing that came to mind...I may be disillusioned by most of the reffing around here, but that sounded like the AOA company line answer right there...
I know man, I am just saying. It is the biggest excuse especially with little league coaches and fans. I am trying to break myself from saying it. If a guy does go up for the rebound and forces another person out of their position, it is a foul. But you have people screaming this around here when a kid is taller, or out jumps another player and cleanly retrieves a rebound. There is a difference. I didn't get to see the game, but I was just pointing out that statement. You know me, and how I am about things, and that I don't officiate basketball for the AOA. But, I just wanted to point out something that is not commonly known.
personal opinion here, but if you have a taller kid jumping STRAIGHT up in the air to retrieve a rebound, I believe it is not over the back...as long as his hands or arms do not come over the opposing player's head, shoulders, etc. In other words, the taller kid would have to go straight up with his entire body which would be kinda hard not to call unless you have a 4 foot tall kid boxing out a 7 foot tall kid, whereas I could see the difference.
If they don't make bodily contact how is it a foul? Also if the kid tries to further his position backward as the kid from behind goes up for the rebound, you would have the foul the kid "boxing out".
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personal opinion here, but if you have a taller kid jumping STRAIGHT up in the air to retrieve a rebound, I believe it is not over the back...as long as his hands or arms do not come over the opposing player's head, shoulders, etc. In other words, the taller kid would have to go straight up with his entire body which would be kinda hard not to call unless you have a 4 foot tall kid boxing out a 7 foot tall kid, whereas I could see the difference.
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But it is regularly called. Time and time again I've seen a taller player called for OTB just because they elevated above the other player and grabbed the rebound.
Hell, that's how Gonzaga won their first round game last week.
Well I watched the game and there was bad calls that went both ways and I'm not going to put it on the refs that they lost the game for UK. Cause if UK could have hit some 3's in the first half we could have probably pull the upset off.
But some people thought it would be a blow out, that UCONN would just run away with it. In which I was proud of the Cats by coming back and making it a ballgame only to come up 4 points short.
I don't think it was a bad season for UK, heck they wasn't supposed to make the tourney, and did.
that is what I was saying...If there is NO body contact then it shouldn't be a foul. Maybe I wrote that out wrong. That is what I was tryin to say when I put the example of the taller player jumping. Sorry for the confusion.
Ok, just making sure. Too many fans want "over the back" called because their player got out hustled, or out "athleticized"(I know its not a word).
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athleticized
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that is too funny. I wonder what kind of words us "hicks" could come up with just by talking in a conversation? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I hope it hits a dictionary like strategory.