Hall of Fame Game

I think it's on tonight. What channel and what time?
Been waiting to see some hitting.
And these pre-season games are pretty good for it. Esp. the guys looking to make the teams.

8:00, NBC, Eagles vs. Raiders. I'm glad you reminded me. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I got the eagles in this one. My logic, the eagles scrubs are better than the raiders scrubs, because the raiders starters are scrubs and the eagles starters are starters. Ya still with me [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Raiders by 10..w00t

and the eagles thomping commences...now

Same old sorry [censored] Raiders. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] McNabb and Westbrook look good.

I think people are really looking past the eagles, they have a pretty good defense, a quarterback, and a decent run game. All of which are a good formula for success in the nfl. Just remember, they were the 2nd best team in the nfc for about 3 years before Owens ever got there. It really wouldnt surprise me if they won the East simply because they have the best quarterback in the east.

Ahh, it's just those preseason jitters, give them a few more possessions and they'll start clicking..
o-line is looking pretty sorry at the moment though..

Bull hockey. They had Fred-X back then, what they gonna do now since they lost his blessed hands! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Also, I forgot to mention, my Cowboys gave FredX a workout this past week. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wall.gif[/img]

Also, the Eagles were like the best of the worst at that time. In the East alone the Giants, Boys, and Skins all sucked the past 5 years until last year. I think Philly finishes at best 3rd in the east.

but the Eagles still made it to he NFC champoinship games

Yes they did but name 3 good teams in the NFC at that time. They are also a #1 seed each time, so they only had to win one game at home to get to the championship, which they lost 3 out of 4, or 4 out of 5 times.

uh oh...looks like we are super bowl bound baby [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/007.gif[/img]

Without a passing game to help out their running game, the Eagles wont do jack in the NFC East.

The thing is, they had this passing game before TO and they did well. I think they need a back that can run, Westbrook is good out of the backfield but he's never going to be a guy that you want to carry the ball gaining a yard late in the game. The biggest disadvantage to them is the rest of the NFC East has improved since they were able to not be great and win.

Exactly Rock. See, I don't think the iggles have much of a running game. They have a short passing game that they use as the run, but your gonna see Westbrook with 20 touches a game and 10 of them through the air. Who else is going to carry the ball for them?

Do they still have Buckhalter or no?

Moats is sorta like Westbrook.

I dont worry about the eagles passing game, McNabb can usually run around until someone gets open, thats the way its always been.

No. I think he is either done for due to injuries, or went elsewhere. Here is their depth chart at RB:

36 Brian Westbrook
23 Ryan Moats
35 Bruce Perry (and he went down with a neck injury/concussion last night)

I think Buckhalter is on PUP list. Not sure about that.

Maybe. I cannot find him on any depth charts in the NFL. You would think he would be somewhere. Mahe is the 4th string back in Philly.

Buckhalter's stats

I thought something happened to him, and he had about retired or something. He hasn't played in 2 seasons anyway.

He is on the Eagles place Buckhalter, two others on PUP list - NFL - ESPN list for Philly.

Star-crossed tailback Correll Buckhalter, who has missed three of the last four seasons because of knee injuries, will begin the summer on the NFL's physically unable to perform list, Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid said Thursday, as the team welcomed rookies and selected veterans to training camp.


Buckhalter will be joined by two rookie wide receivers, fourth-round draft pick Jason Avant and fifth-round choice Jeremy Bloom, on the active PUP list.


By being on the active PUP list, all three players can join the Eagles' workouts when they are medically cleared for practice. Going on the inactive PUP list, a move that typically is not made until before the start of the season, means a player must sit out at least the first six games of the year.


Reid said all three players will be re-evaluated on a daily basis but did not offer a timetable for when any of them will get onto the practice field. Although the Eagles were one of two teams to report on Thursday for camp, most veterans aren't due in until next week and the first full-squad practice isn't until Monday.


How much a setback the Thursday announcement is for Buckhalter, the kind of physical runner that the Eagles have lacked the last few seasons, remains to be seen.


A fourth-round choice in the 2001 draft, Buckhalter rushed for 586 yards as a rookie, second most on the team. But the former Nebraska star tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee the following April in a minicamp workout and missed the entire 2002 campaign. He returned in 2003 and rushed for 542 yards but then ruptured the patella tendon in his right knee in the summer of 2004 and missed that season.


After a long and challenging rehabilitation, Buckhalter re-injured his right patella tendon in training camp last summer and again sat out an entire season.


In the two seasons in which he was healthy, Buckhalter appeared in 30 games, with 11 starts, and rushed for 1,128 yards and 10 touchdowns on 255 carries. He also had 23 receptions for 262 yards and one score.


The five-year veteran is attempting to fight his way back up a depth chart that includes starting tailback Brian Westbrook and promising second-year veteran Ryan Moats, who has been impressive during the Eagles' spring workouts.


Avant is expected to compete for the No. 4 or No. 5 wide receiver spot, but the former University of Michigan star hyperextended his knee during organized team activities, underwent arthroscopic surgery on June 20 to clean out loose cartilage and is not yet ready to resume practicing. Bloom, a former Olympics freestyle skier projected as a punt returner, is still rehabilitating a strained hamstring.

Good timing. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I've seen Moats play and I think he could be pretty good. Given the chance he could break out like Willie Parker did.

I think/thought Moats was pretty decent but he's a lot like Westbrook in his running style (or I'm thinking he is). With no major receiving threat, you need a battering ram running back, and Westbrook isn't that. The Eagles can nickel and dime most people, but they lack that big time factor. That being said, they should be much better than last year but being much better and having a much better record aren't necessarily the same thing.