Have they started medicating Burrhead yet?
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dont know. this'll be a good game
Ah, I am sure Burrhead is just fine without medication lol. He has the piece of mind this year knowing that the Blue Devils aren't that good and their defense is severely lacking from what we've all heard.
Bottom line, Clintwood rolls over Gate City this year! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beer1.gif[/img]
Both teams have what it takes. I'm not picking a definite winner.
If Clintwood wins, then call an ambulance to revive Burrhead.
And there could be a tidal wave of the green fans if Clintwood wins.
If all the hype is true, Clintwood might beat Gate City. But, I don't think any team in SWVA can "roll over" Gate City with the exception of Richlands.
I'm not sure how good Gate City actually is, but keep in mind Clintwood's only wins this year have been over Grundy, Lee High, and Coeburn. On the flip side, losses include Haysi, Appalachia, and Powell Valley. The game against Appalachia was arguably the worse game any Clintwood team has played in the last 20 years, including the infamous 2001 season.
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Ah, I am sure Burrhead is just fine without medication lol. He has the piece of mind this year knowing that the Blue Devils aren't that good and their defense is severely lacking from what we've all heard.
Bottom line, Clintwood rolls over Gate City this year! [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beer1.gif[/img]
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PV might beat GC this year but it won't be another 47 to 20 if they do.
What I see most likely is Haysi, PV, Honaker, GC (in no particular order) in the playoffs. But that's not a definite. I'm sure it will be hard for GC to stop Clintwood. A win for CW over GC could probably put the Wave in the playoffs.
It's all confusing right now.
Keep in mind that Gate City's wins so far are over those same Coeburn and Lee High teams, Pound (who Coeburn defeated) and J.J. Kelly. Not sure what point you are trying to make by giving Clintwood's defeated opponents and not even mentioning that Gate City's defeated opponents are just are the same and weaker.
I agree both teams are to some extent unproven for this season, with the exception that Gate City has been to the gauntlet so to speak with Richlands.
I'm sure someone can provide some details, but I'm thinking that Clintwood hasn't beaten Gate City since they played years ago in the late 50's or 60's. In fact, the question was brought up recently about which LPD teams have beaten Gate City since they returned to Group A. The only answer so far has been Powell Valley.
Personally, I'd love to see Clintwood get a win over GC. But, I haven't yet seen any evidence that either Clintwood is an exceptionally good team this year or that Gate City is an exceptionally bad team this year.
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Keep in mind that Gate City's wins so far are over those same Coeburn and Lee High teams, Pound (who Coeburn defeated) and J.J. Kelly. Not sure what point you are trying to make by giving Clintwood's defeated opponents and not even mentioning that Gate City's defeated opponents are just are the same and weaker.
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Burrhead will react to this game in real life the way he does to any other victory. Most of you people can't distinguish between internet Burrhead, and real life Burrhead. He gets his kicks busting the GC folks on here's chops, but he does not obsess over them the way some of you think.
For Clintwood rolling over GC, it won't happen. Anyone who say they will, doesn't really believe it. It should be a good game. Unless, the intimidation factor comes in, then the rolling will come into play. It won't be GC getting rolled though.
gate city by 20.
Intimidation could be a big factor, and the Gate City fans could become a factor in the game as well. LOL I imagine some might turn it up a notch just for ol Burrhead.
Haysi definitely intimidated Clintwood this year. It was almost funny to watch, but credit goes to a young team that didn't give up.
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For Clintwood rolling over GC, it won't happen. Anyone who say they will, doesn't really believe it. It should be a good game. Unless, the intimidation factor comes in, then the rolling will come into play. It won't be GC getting rolled though.
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I was poking a bit of fun but a team that hasn't beaten GC getting a win over them would make their fans freak out.
I met Burrhead last year at PV at Clintwood game when Clintwood beat us. He's pretty cool. He wasn't jumping up and down and carrying on. Needless to say he was glad that CW won.
Nothing against the Blue Devils but it would be great for Clintwood if they won. I'm not picking a definite winner. I honestly don't know who will win. I gained respect for GC last year. Clintwood? I've never really minded them that much. It would give PV a lot of power points if CW and PV both beat GC.
The winner will be by 1 touchdown or less.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some of the Raider staff scouting this game.
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Nothing against the Blue Devils but it would be great for Clintwood if they won. I'm not picking a definite winner. I honestly don't know who will win. I gained respect for GC last year. Clintwood? I've never really minded them that much. It would give PV a lot of power points if CW and PV both beat GC.
The winner will be by 1 touchdown or less.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some of the Raider staff scouting this game.
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i think that might be the understatement of the year.
Depends on the confidence level Norton has at this point in the season. I'm not sure if they consider either Gate City or Clintwood as potential upsets.
Since a couple of teams had open schedules this past week, I thought maybe some of the coaching staff may have been scouting Norton but didn't see any.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see some of the Raider staff scouting this game.
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i think that might be the understatement of the year.
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As posted earlier
Keys for Gate City to win:
1. Field position. They must get the deep kickoffs from Byrd and long punts from Jones. Kick it deep boys, kick it deep. Then the defense must hold.
2. The defense must hold teams on 3rd and 4th downs. Cut out the silly mistakes and penalties that give teams automatic first downs. Last week on Kelly's only scoring drive they were at 4th and long, penalty 5 yards roughing the punter, 4th and 4, penalty off sides. First down and the drive resulted in their only score. This type of thing must stop. Play hard but smart.
3. Receivers must catch the ball. Anderson had 4 of his passes droped last week, two of which were touchdowns. Catch the ball. Estepp has the best hands on the team and they didn't even throw him the ball. Move the kid to tightend and use this big target. He would be a better tightend than fullback. I hear several people talking about this, Sunday Quarterbacks, for what it's worth.
4. The offensive line must continue to give Anderson time. Last week they did and excellent job of this. Keep it up. You must take advantage of field position opportunities created by special teams and defense.
5. Coaches must be creative on play calling and the defensive coordinator must be able to adjust during the game. aka Virginia High - no adjustment = loss. Quicker decisions MUST be made. Better clock management is also needed. The team can't afford any more situations like right before the half against Kelly.
6. Anderson must continue to play within his abilities. Focus on the task at hand, mainly get the ball to Parks. Anderson made some great passes last week and his stats would be better if his receivers would help him out. I look for good things from this young man as he matures in his knowledge of the offensive scheme.
7. Play hard on every down.
What are Parks rushing yards looking like for the season?
I think Parks has close to 750 yards, give or take a few yards.
And most of his yards I might add are do to him and him alone. Most of our offensive line hasn't blocked a lick all year and whats sad is one of out biggest lineman is the son of the offensive line coach. They need to go back to hitting the sled until they can consistantly fire off the ball and MAINTAIN their block longer than a second. I played under Coach Fry and thats all we did. Although this is another generation, theres no substitute for hard work and practise makes permanent......
Who is leading the LPD in rushing yards this season?
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I think Parks has close to 750 yards, give or take a few yards.
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I think if you would have read the Bristol paper last Saturday you would have seen that Parks gave the credit to his offensive lineman, or at least some of them. Here is the quote:
Parks credited his offensive line corps of Nathan Brickey, Jon Pope, Jake Jones, and Seth Musick.
``Those guys made my job a lot easier,'' Parks said.
You are correct on a few things but you can't lump the whole line together on this one. Some of the boys are doing a great job. Some are returning ALL District players. I think if you go back and review the film(s)in slow motion, which I have, it is quiet evident where the weaknesses are. Notice in Parks quote that he mentioned only upper classman, 2 seniors and 2 juniors. Keep in mind some of these boys are underclassman and will get better, I hope.
Something else to ponder, Jake Jones (SR) missed the first few games because of his knee, I think he has only played in two games so far. Also, Chase Lane (SR) one of the starting guards has been out for a few weeks with a knee injury. Brickey (JR) has done a yeomans job filling in. Remember Brickey hasn't played since his Freshman year. If I'm not mistaken Musick (JR) and Pope (SR) are the only lineman who haven't missed a game(s) due to injury.
I also played for Coach Fry and you are absolutely correct about the sled. We spent more time there than anywhere, at least it seemed like it at the time. We even had a sled for the backs.
To Copperridge....I just made a general comment on the whole year as to his yardage total. He has had to work very hard for the most part for what he has gotten and if you read my comments, I said most of our lineman not all. We all know who is doing most of the blocking and their mostly former Colts if you know what I mean. As for Park's comments, I believe they were about the JJK game as they did show alittle more emotion and seemed to play more physical. They just need to do that every game. If you read Tyler's comments on the VaHigh game, he blasted everyone and should have. I'll have to say though, when you have to hit and drive that sled everyday, the games seemed like a cakewalk. We just need to get back to GC football, play hard and physical or come and yell with the rest of us.
Parks (Redskins), Brickey (Packers), Pope (Colts), Jake Jones (Rams), Musick (Redskins)
Pope must be the only one blocking. Just kidding, I know what you are getting at.
I think if you look at blocking you also have to consider the lead back. Last year he had Spivey in the backfield leading the way. He doesn't have that this year. Estepp is an underclassman and no where near the size of Spivey. I think if they would play Faulkner (SP) you may see some of the same results. He is a big kid that can bring a load.
Gate City- 28
Clintwood- 21 OT
If Clintwood comes out to play the same kind of game they played against Appalachia, it will be a massacre.
I'll go on record as saying that it's possible, highly possible in my mind that Gate City could end the season at 5-5 at best, 4-6 at the worst. I think no matter what the outcome of the Clintwood game, they'll drop their last 3 games hosting PV, Appy, then @JI Burton. 4-2 right now, going into Clintwood for a trap game of sorts. If they lose, the bottom might just fall out.
I think Clintwood plays inspired football since they're gonna be honoring Justin Hamilton and retiring his jersey at the half. If this game was at GC, I might pick them. I think Clintwood wins by 10. At least. It won't be a defensive contest IMO...I think this will be a high scoring affair with GC throwing the ball well and Clintwood running a combo of Osborne/Rose/Robinson/Robbins at GC that I don't see GC being able to stop.
they are not retiring justin's jersey this weekend.... hes gonna have to stay in cleveland because of a injury.
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they are not retiring justin's jersey this weekend.... hes gonna have to stay in cleveland because of a injury.
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Yeah I heard he might have to stay. Hadn't heard any definitive word on it though. Even w/o retiring his jersey, I think that they'll come out pumped up to execute correctly and beat GC. Just a feeling I've got--nothing against GC because they have a ton of talent and great coaching--I just think Clintwood's due.
If Clintwood had played well against either Haysi or Appalachia, then I might be expecting an upset here. But, they had problems at time even with Coeburn. I think the half-time score in that game was only something like 14-13, and in the end only won 47-43.
I think Clintwood will be more evenly matched up with Gate City this year than in previous years but not yet on the same page as the Devils.
At any rate, it should be a good game. Good luck to both teams!
Clintwood needs to learn how to win a big game like this (IMHO the Clintwood team has grown up alot since the Haysi and Appy games and if they were to be lucky enought to get another crack at Haysi I think that they would make a better showing of themselfs)
Big game for Both Clintwood and GC I hope both teams play well (just hope Clintwood plays a bit better LOL)
I was actually impressed with the way Clintwood played up until the Appalachia game, despite the loss to Haysi. In the early season scrimmages against Honaker and Thomas Walker, the team showed a lot of fight. Even in the Haysi game, they were demolished in the first quarter but didn't give up.
The Appalachia game is another matter all together. I'll never understand how they played so badly in that game.
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Clintwood needs to learn how to win a big game like this (IMHO the Clintwood team has grown up alot since the Haysi and Appy games and if they were to be lucky enought to get another crack at Haysi I think that they would make a better showing of themselfs)
Big game for Both Clintwood and GC I hope both teams play well (just hope Clintwood plays a bit better LOL)
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IMHO it was a snowball affect.....The Appy type offence was exactly what the Clintwood D had a tough time stopping and even then I think Appy had to convert a 4th Down (one in there own territory) on there first 2 drives and kept the ball away from the Clintwood O (3 plays in the 1st qtr) If Clintwood could have went into the half down 16-0 I think they would have made a game out of it since they did play better the 2nd half however Appy got a turnover and showed off a pretty good passing game to get a couple of quick score before the end of the half putting the game out of reach.
A young Clintwood team got smacked in the face that night and learned what football in the LPD is all about and while they may still lose to a better team on a given night I do not look for them to roll over for anyone
Not taking anything away from Appalachia at all, they shocked a lot of people that night who may have thought that they didnt' have a good team this year. But, I think Haysi may be the best D2 team in Region D again this year, and Clintwood played with them until the bitter end.
Honestly, I would like to have seen some of that same fight against Appalachia and Powell Valley.
Clintwood may have matured since the season started, but I fear that they have also become kind of complacent, i.e. being satisfied to have a 5-5 season, beat the teams they're expected to beat, and lose to the teams everyone expects to beat them.
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A young Clintwood team got smacked in the face that night and learned what football in the LPD is all about and while they may still lose to a better team on a given night I do not look for them to roll over for anyone
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I thought that Clintwood played hard vs PV (Which like GC is a much better team than some are giving credit for) and had a shot at going up in the 4th qtr when they had a drive killing 'Aiding the runner' call (It was a good and the correct call)
IMHO here is what Clintwood has to do to be a better football team
#1 Come out ready to play (vs Haysi and Appy Clintwood seemed to have a deer in the headlight look early in the game and while they played better as they game wore on it was not enough to overcome the hole they had dug. Even vs PV the difference in the game turned out to be the opening onside kickoff that lead to a PV score on there first position of the game.
#2 Put team away ( Vs Coeburn Clintwood had a foot on the Blue knights throat but gave up several big plays that kept Coeburn in the game Vs PV they had the ball in PV territory, Momentum and a chance to take the lead in the 4th qtr and was unable to take advantage)
#3 We need to do a better job of tackling on 3rd and 4th down (probably 1st and 2nd as well but broken tackles that result in 1st downs on 3rd and 4th downs are tough to overcome)
Wow Counts you nailed it. I was trying to think of what they needed to improve and thats pretty much spot on.
I fully am prepared for Gate City to beat Clintwood this week. I hope not, naturally, and I do think Clintwood can win, but they're going to have to grow up and play a complete game. Not a perfect game like I thought we needed at times in the past. We can't beat ourselves. Gate City is a bit of a shark, in that they smell blood, they can go for it.
I hope its a good game, like you, I hope Clintwood is a wee bit better.
Good analysis.
If GC manages to get the ball into Parks' hands, how well do you think Clintwood will be able to stop the running game? In the games I've seen, Clintwood seems to be vulnerable defending against a good passing game.
Looks like it's going to be a clear, cold night for some classic LPD football!
Clintwood cannot handle a grind it out man to man physical football game. The key will be whether or not we can create some turnovers and capitalize on them. Also field position will be huge. If we can make GC play on a long field all night as we did PV, we have shot. From what I hear with the exceptoin of Parks, GC is not very explosive offensivly. Field position will be key for both teams.
Honestly While stopping Parks will be a big key to a Clintwood win IMHO I would be more worried if he were a 3 yards and a cloud of dust type runner. If GC beats Clintwood on the LOS Parks will have a big day if they try to paint the corners with him I think Clintwood will be OK. As far the passing game goes LOL I don't know what to expect I am not sure we have seen a good passing game since the Haysi Game the Coeburn Passing game was one man deep and through it up for grabs (was pretty successful though LOL)
"I think Clintwood will be more evenly matched up with Gate City this year than in previous years but not yet on the same page as the Devils."
I saw the two teams play in '04 and they were very much evenly matched in that game. Clintwood actually moved the ball much better than GC that night but had some trouble in their goalline offense. Clintwood led 3-0 at the half but GC took a 7-3 lead late in the 3rd and held on for the win.
The 2004 team was probably Clintwood's best team in recent years, with Jon Michael Fleming at RB and Kelly Fleming at WR. They also had a very good defensive line. I think Clintwood went 7-3 that year while Gate City went 9-1 in the regular season and 10-2 overall.
But, I can't say Clintwood was on the same page as Gate City in 2004. The two losses for GC came at the hands of a very good Powell Valley team.
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I saw the two teams play in '04 and they were very much evenly matched in that game. Clintwood actually moved the ball much better than GC that night but had some trouble in their goalline offense. Clintwood led 3-0 at the half but GC took a 7-3 lead late in the 3rd and held on for the win.
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