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No post of this yet? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/arcadefreak.gif[/img] Tigers win game 2 after a contraversy early in the game win Kenny Rogers appeared to have some "illegal substance" on his hand. Any comments?
Who cares!? They said he had durning the A's and Yankee's game. He had it below is thumb on the Palm. Most pitchers but pine tar on the fingers to get a better grip. IMO I think it was an excuse. PLus why didn't they say something in the 1st instead waiting until the 2nd to speak up.
I agree. He pitched excellent all night. Although if it was tar, then he should have been ejected and suspended.
If definitely appeared to be pine tar. ESPN showed the same substance on his hand in a couple of different games. I'm not saying that it helped him pitch any better, because after he washed it off he still threw 7 innings of scoreless ball. However, the rules are pretty explicit about foreign substances and if the issue was pushed more he probably should have been ejected and suspended.
After Rogers wiped the stuff off, he proceeded to mystify the Cards for what, 6 more innings? I understand the rule, but he would have rolled regardless.
the ref's called it dirt
this is fkin PINE TAR... how does this happen in the same color, same shape, etc. for not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 OR 5 games this year
http://picsorban.com/upload/pinetar.jpg
the umps paid no attention to it, this world series is stacked to the ceiling for the dodgers to win, ...REDICULOUS
since when was that stuff LEGAL to put on your hands? last i heard it was a suspension/ejection, anything to help improve "motion" on the ball is cheating
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i didnt know the dodgers were playing this year [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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i meant detroit, this crap has got me so pissed off it's nasty
i didnt know the dodgers were playing this year [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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if rogers had pine tar on his hand, it would still be sticky late in the game even if he washed it off. on a cold night, i'm sure rogers had it on his hand to get a better grip on his pitches.
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if rogers had pine tar on his hand, it would still be sticky late in the game even if he washed it off. on a cold night, i'm sure rogers had it on his hand to get a better grip on his pitches.
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its not dirt...it cant be.
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It appears to be pine tar, and yes the residue would continue to give you a better grip even if you wiped or washed off the visible part.
What is really bad is Tony L. had the opportunity to have him kicked out of the World Series and didn't. StL would more than likely win the game and Detroit would be down 2-0 and with out the most dominating pitcher in the series. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wall.gif[/img]
Possibly because Tony L. knew that if the umpire checked his own pitchers, they would also find pine tar.