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Within 2 years SanDiego will suck
They may be like the COLTS and take 2 or 3 years to put it all together.?
That just ain't right. Hope they never have another winning season.
Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer was fired Monday night in a shocking move by team president Dean Spanos, who cited a "dysfunctional situation" between the coach and general manager A.J. Smith.
Less than a month after San Diego's NFL-best 14-2 season was wrecked in a playoff loss to New England, Spanos cited the exodus of both coordinators and other assistants in firing Schottenheimer, who had a year left on his contact.
"The process of dealing with these coaching changes convinced me that we simply could not move forward with such dysfunction between our head coach and general manager," Spanos said in a statement. "In short, this entire process over the last month convinced me beyond any doubt that I had to act to change this untenable situation."
Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips was hired as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys on Thursday, following offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and two other assistants out of town for better jobs.
Although Schottenheimer said last week that change was inevitable, Smith sounded concerned, saying, "Both in the same year - Wow."
Tight ends coach Rob Chudzinski became Cleveland's offensive coordinator, and linebackers coach Greg Manusky was hired as San Francisco's defensive coordinator.
Running backs coach Clarence Shelmon, who's never been a coordinator, was promoted to replace Cameron. Shelmon accepted only a one-year contract due to Schottenheimer's lame-duck status. Schottenheimer declined the team's offer of a $4.5 million, one-year extension through 2008, which came with a club-option $1 million buyout.
Schottenheimer has been at odds with Smith since the 2005 season, apparently over personnel decisions by the GM.
seeing how dallas had to settle on wade phillips, the chargers will have a hard time finding a decent head coach.
Na, the Chargers don't have the T.O. factor that pushes away some very good coaches. you will see some good coaches come out of the wood work to work with a team like the Chargers
i kinda agree with this but also kinda think the other way
Coaches are egotistacal.. thats all there is to it. They want to come in and show that they can "control T.O." any new young coach in the league that probably is going to be a good coach would love that job.. a seasoned vet on teh other hand would possibly stray away from it and not want to "tarnish his legend"
Problem is that a coach who goes to San Diego now knows that he's just a low man on the totem pole. If the GM can, in effect, run off Marty, then what power will they have? Not to mention, both coordinators are gone, and a couple assistants.
The reason most teams fill their coaching vacancies quick is so they aren't behind, can work on their needs/wants, players that interest them, be it free agents or draft, and now here San Diego is, way behind.
Head a rumer that Pete Carrol was possabley interested
Hope he goes. I don't like the Chargers and Carrol has a less than stellar record as a NFL coach.
I heard this morning that Nick Saban has already called the Chargers and told them that he was ready for a change.
LOL
Good call on Saban
I heard that the Chargers would of course want Carrol, but ...shoot why would he give up being the kind of SoCal to being controlled by a GM.
Carrol will not go to San Diego, and if he does he is nuts. in two years he would be fired and then out of a job.
i also don't think dallas waited so long because they couldn't find a coach, but just because jerry jones wanted to "get it right". dallas will always be able to find a coach of some sort. also with parcells leaving so late, most of the better candidates were already gone. but the firing of shottenheimer is a mistake. hes a good coach. if rivers wouldve had more experience, i think the chargers may have won it all.
Jerry Jones was looking for someone to be a puppett on a string coach
jerry jones is a meddling owner ill agree. but he is very concerned about winning, especially with the cowboys playoff drought of ten or eleven years whatever it is.
In 10 years Jerry Jones will be Al Davis..lol. Ain't far away now.
yeah the game has pretty much passed davis by. hopefully jones will turn the team over to his son by then.
I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
i dont hate jerry jones. he tries to do what's best for the team most of the time. sometimes he lets his own personal agenda interfere too much though. ie: TO
I don't hate him. But, look at this. When he first boght the Cowboys and hired Jimmy Johnson, Johnson did things his way and built a 2 time Superbowl winner. When Jones wanted to do things his way, Johnson wouldn't go along and he was fired and replaced with Switzer who won another Superbowl with the team Johnson had built. When Switzer got tired of being led in his decisions by Jones, Dallas saw a string of ineffective puppets take the helm until Parcells took the job. Bill improved the team drastically until Jones decided he need TO and to basically call the shots as far as who the QB was gonna be. Now they have Wade Phillips who will be like Gailey and Campo. They will be OK but until they get a coach with the power to coach as he chooses they'll be an also ran. I look at it like this...the game has passed Al Davis by...but Oakland has been to the big one since Jerry Jones has (with less steller players overall). Davis and Jones both need to figure out that owners own, players play, and coaches coach.
i dont think wade phillips is a bad hire. he knows the 3-4 defense, and thats what parcells built.
I think he'll serve as a stop gap until a better coach can be found. He wasn't good in denver and wasn't good in Buffalo. He's one of those coaches that makes a good coordinator and an average head coach. I'd say within 2 years he's gone.
They have a good team, a young QB that has loads of potential. If they could get a coach in there that knows what he is doing, then they couldn't do that bad. Besides, they have a future hall of fame HB in LT. How bad could it be?
yeah..but now the Chargers have a team that went 14-2 last year with none of it's coordinators (o or d) returning and no head coach. They have always had talent but only 1 superbowl appearance. They are a prime example of a team that can't win a championship because of the ownership.
norv turner would be a good fit in sd i think with all the offensive weapons that they have there.
I don't know that I would say he was that bad in Buffalo. He did take them to the playoffs 2 out of his 3 seasons there. Plus, name another coach who has a winning record after being the head coach at New Orleans, and Atlanta as part of his resume.
I think Phillips will be okay, but not great in Big D. I think he is a better selection than Norv Turner too. I do agree though, I don't see this as a long 5+ year stay. I say 3, maybe 4 years max.
Norv Turner would be a bad choice for the Pound Wildcats.
goin to the playoffs and winning in the playoffs is 2 different things. All he did in buffalo or denver is just make his players work an extra week for their salaries..lol.. Mark it down, he is a stop gap coach...just like campos and gailey.
I don't disagree with you there, but so was Parcells at Dallas as far as playoffs are concerned. Like I said 3 years is about all I see of Phillips too.
The difference is Parcells was a proven winner. Between Jerry Jones and T.O. I don't think Lombardi could do anything in Dallas if he were still alive. Parcells didn't do a bad job. His hand was forced more than anyone lets on. He just knew how to spin it to look like he was callin all the shots. IMO Jones and TO are the reasons Dallas has a mediocre head coach and not Bill Parcells.
I agree to a point, but Jones actually let Parcells run most things in Big D the last 4 years than most think. Jones biggest meddling was signing Owens, but for the most part Jerry was on good behavior when Parcells was there, and did want Bill back.
what ever the Cowboys become over the next 2 or 3 years will be a direct influence on what Bill was building there in Dallas. He has almost all the pieces in place to make a run at the big dance
I agree. I think he done a pretty good job. The offensive line was improved this year, but the biggest hole is safety and d-line. Ferguson does an okay job in the middle, but I wish Spears would step it up. He has underachieved IMO. Plus, when Ellis went down it killed their ability to rush the passer from either edge.
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They'd want rid of him after they lost their first game, just like any other coach they've ever had.
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They'd want rid of him after they lost their first game, just like any other coach they've ever had.
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They'd run Mike Krzyzewski off.
phillips definitely isn't going to be there for more than three years since his replacement has already been hired.
things are in place for dallas though, so maybe phillips can come in and be a a breath of fresh air from parcells' dictatorship(which isn't a bad thing, just how he coaches) and have the team feed off of it and be successful.
i wonder what is to become of bledsoe. surely he won't stay in dallas. i saw dallas play the colts this past year and bledsoe i.m.o. had the strongest arm in warmups. not nearly as precise as peyton, but it looked like bledsoe was throwing nerf balls. i think dallas gave him a raw deal...
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As soft as Duke looks this year that might be the case in a lot of places. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Hiring TO is enough meddling enough for 30 years. In addition, hom many times has Jones hit the sidelines since Bill started?...Many...Jerry Jones is exactly what is wrong with Dallas. Cuz he is responsible for TO. And he has shown that he is incapable of hiring decent coaches to replace the Legends he runs off.
jones normally comes down to the sidelines if it looks like dallas is going to win. i don't think he interferes so much with playcalling as he does personnel. but yes hiring t.o. was the undoing of parcells, and may turn out to be the undoing of the cowboys franchise. i guess it depends on how many touchdowns and receptions t.o. has. as long as he is getting those things, dallas will be fine.