Solution to the Forum's problems
Simple. Get rid of everything except the Sports forum. Yeah people argue on the sports forum but for the most part people get along fairly well on there.
It used to be the only people the majority didnt get along on here with was "the cabinet nazi", "ThOsE gIrLs WhO tYpEd LiKe ThIs*~*~*~", and "jv superstars who could throw 90, run a 4.4 forty, and squat a clean 600 lbs. who wanted attention."
But now this forum is more polarized then America will ever be. So the only solution is forget about trying to make people politically correct or telling it like it is.
Just talk sports, local, college, pro, backyard whatever. Thats what Jim wanted when he created this thing over a decade ago. He wanted a place where the locals could make friends and enjoy one of the few natural resources this area will never run out of.
When we divided the forums up it just created more and more contraversy. Conservatives are tellin the liberals they were going to hell and the Liberals are calling the conservatives racist sheep. The only thing 95% of us can agree on in the religion forum is Jesus is the only way to Heaven, so lets just leave it at that. Your demoniation is not better then mine and mine isnt better then yours. We are all children of God, so just leave it at that period.
Your not gonna convince anyone they are wrong on here, yet everyday ppl try.
"A kingdom that is divided cannot stand." JC said that, Lincoln also paraphrased this during the civil war era, and it is still true today.
In closing I think a good rule of thumb for EVERYONE is WWRTD? What would retired teacher do. Before you hit submit just think about that for a second. This guy shows more class then everyone else on this forum combined. I guarantee he has spent more time talking to the big guy upstairs then anyone on here, yet he doesnt judge ppl or try to throw his beliefs on fellow forumers. Regardless of what you may have heard it was not Al Gore that invented the internet it was Retired Teach--while most of us was still playing Oregon Trial or Number Munchers. My point is, we need more posters like him. He has never put anyone down on here, never tried to sway someones religious beliefs and to my knowledge stirs clear of the politcal forum all together.
Anyone who remembers this thing a few years ago can tell you it has gone down hill drastically, so why not just bring back the one pure thing that brought everyone to this forum exclusively. Sports.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
most of that is easly solved. I've never asked to be able to post on the political or religious forum and wish it was something that I could just beable not to see. but if you ask not to be able to post on the forum then no problems, you won't be involved in it. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Thought about that actually. Biggest reason it was split, was the sports forum wasn't just for sports anymore. People wanted to discuss everything else, and in the middle of a which running back is best discussion, you would have someone something flippant like Ricky Williams because he's a liberal [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It would snowball from there.
The non-sports forum SHOULD have covered the ground. Except instead of having nice discussions about movies, music, etc. You had people who took it upon themselves to tell us how good one party was, or how much the other party sucked. Or you had the Tops and Bottoms brigade. Creating those forums was a way to prevent the sports forum, or the non-sports forum from being over ran by zealots. (spelling?) Those forums are invite only, but I think I may change them to not viewable unless a person is in them. Not that it will keep it from being able to be joined, but will/could reduce people having to see it.
I'm willing to nuke them and just let them be in the non-sports forum.
I'd be willing to destroy the rest of the forums, but I do think the non-sports is a good thing.
It's kind of up to the posters.
Agree with you, more or less, about RetiredTeach. He expresses his opinions without downing others. That is something we all should do. Someone may be the biggest blowhard, or the biggest idiot in the world, but there is no need to tell them that. Respect, and respectfully disagreeing with someone, is a lost art.
I will say this. Back 10 years ago, there was about 20-30 people on here. Now there is quite a few more (durn you internet, more users, chat programs, high speed, etc).
What most don't realize is that Jim was Powell Valley, Counts and I was Clintwood, and we, along with nearly everybody on here, could get in some very serious disagreements, arguments even, but everybody (or nearly everybody) was mature enough to realize when a cause was lost, or things were going to far, and could step back. At the end of the day, it was that you might think someone was full of crap but you at least respected their right to be full of crap. Now if someone is wrong or you perceive them as wrong, you have to convert them.
On the religious forum, ut1 and I have been having a go, back and forth. I am disagreeing with his view, he with mine, but I can safely say that I respect and understand his opinions. I hope he does mine as well. I may not agree with him, he with me, but I think both of us have brought some valid points and comments out. Is either of us right or wrong? That depends on what someone elses view is. I haven't resorted to calling him a name (or don't think I have), nor he I (at least not that I remember).
Here, just for fun.
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Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
Personally, I like it the way it is now. It's nice to have a location to exchange ideas, opinions, etc. I sometimes take advantage of the ignore feature, and frequently make the choice not to respond. I've learned to ignore some people's posts, as I haven't been able to find them post much that I felt was worthwhile, sane, sensible, or in any way contributed to the discussion. I wish there was less name calling, posturing, etc. But overall, I like the forum as is.
I agree with what you stated concerning retiredteach. Good point.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
I like segregating out some topics that seem to cause the most problems that being said I think the more you slice up a board like ours you risk losing valuable insite that a board member could give but does not because they have no desire to enter into a section where that topic dominates.
The LPD website and now Message board has lasted much longer than most local message boards do for the most part. There are very few of the "Founding" Members still with us and I have come to accept that the membership on this board will be a moving target (in that MOST members will be involved when they or a family member is actually playing the sport, Others will check it out because of a topic that "everyone is talking about" and give there 2 cents until the topic dies and never visit the board again. then there are the sick few (like me) that are strangely drawn to this board and will probably still read and post as long as there is at least one other poster to interact with.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
I changed the religious and political forums to only members of those groups can see them.
I'm going to try to recreate a forum rules and mention them in there, if people want to join.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
I like that Idea "I changed the religious and political forums to only members of those groups can see them."
because I don't want to see those drawn back into the non-sports forum again.
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Best way to deal with that IMO is if we have someone posting religious or political in the non-sports, PM them, tell them there are forums for that, and to ask me to put them in the groups that can see them.
If someone posts a tread, let us know and we can move the thread to appropriate forums.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
Thanks for the kind words. I like playing Oregon Trail myself.
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I'm going to have to find me a copy of that game again [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Simple. Get rid of everything except the Sports forum. Yeah people argue on the sports forum but for the most part people get along fairly well on there.
It used to be the only people the majority didnt get along on here with was "the cabinet nazi", "ThOsE gIrLs WhO tYpEd LiKe ThIs*~*~*~", and "jv superstars who could throw 90, run a 4.4 forty, and squat a clean 600 lbs. who wanted attention."
But now this forum is more polarized then America will ever be. So the only solution is forget about trying to make people politically correct or telling it like it is.
Just talk sports, local, college, pro, backyard whatever. Thats what Jim wanted when he created this thing over a decade ago. He wanted a place where the locals could make friends and enjoy one of the few natural resources this area will never run out of.
When we divided the forums up it just created more and more contraversy. Conservatives are tellin the liberals they were going to hell and the Liberals are calling the conservatives racist sheep. The only thing 95% of us can agree on in the religion forum is Jesus is the only way to Heaven, so lets just leave it at that. Your demoniation is not better then mine and mine isnt better then yours. We are all children of God, so just leave it at that period.
Your not gonna convince anyone they are wrong on here, yet everyday ppl try.
"A kingdom that is divided cannot stand." JC said that, Lincoln also paraphrased this during the civil war era, and it is still true today.
In closing I think a good rule of thumb for EVERYONE is WWRTD? What would retired teacher do. Before you hit submit just think about that for a second. This guy shows more class then everyone else on this forum combined. I guarantee he has spent more time talking to the big guy upstairs then anyone on here, yet he doesnt judge ppl or try to throw his beliefs on fellow forumers. Regardless of what you may have heard it was not Al Gore that invented the internet it was Retired Teach--while most of us was still playing Oregon Trial or Number Munchers. My point is, we need more posters like him. He has never put anyone down on here, never tried to sway someones religious beliefs and to my knowledge stirs clear of the politcal forum all together.
Anyone who remembers this thing a few years ago can tell you it has gone down hill drastically, so why not just bring back the one pure thing that brought everyone to this forum exclusively. Sports.
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Simple Solution. POST IN THE SPORTS SECTION ONLY! This board is way too big to have only one board. I remember having the sports only board and how it was cluttered with non sports topics. That was when we got the sports and non sports board. Then the non sports board was over run with Religous and Politics threads. That is why we now have those boards. The simple solution is if you dont like certain boards then dont post in them. The board is fine the way it is.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
I found a free download on the Internet that was almost exactly like the old one (a little newer, but still ok) Unfortunately their was a time limit and after so many days you had to buy it. I'd like to still have that game.
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if you will notice i have quit posting alltogether. this and the small peice of louey addington is the only thing i have said pubically on this forum in over 6 months, for several reasons.
i was one of the founding members, posting in the black and green days, and actually meeting Jim my freshman year. i just think this forum has turned for the worse and has lost alot of really good regulars because of it.
Re: Solution to the Forum's problems
Regulars probably got bored with it. I think its fine as is, mainly because it keeps non-sports talk out of the sports forum. I post on only what I want to post on, and I read only what I want to read...its as simple as that. I think the mods-adminstrator are doing a great job with it myself.
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Sports-only would suck. I'm not interested in basketball or even baseball by any means, and those are just about the only two sports that are being discussed as of lately.
Non-Sports forum and the other forums give the forum better organization and make it much easier to find what you want. I see no problem with the way the forum is currently categorized.
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if you will notice i have quit posting alltogether. this and the small peice of louey addington is the only thing i have said pubically on this forum in over 6 months, for several reasons.
i was one of the founding members, posting in the black and green days, and actually meeting Jim my freshman year. i just think this forum has turned for the worse and has lost alot of really good regulars because of it.
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Thats the way things do sometimes. The forum has changed alot. It went from a few posters from the black and green days and grew into a very popular hangout for many. It is the way alot of forums are. If they are small forums with a few posters there will be better conversations and no board clutter. But with the size of this forum now if you go to a sports only board it would create alot of problems. People would be posting non sports stuff and the board would be a huge mess. If anything the board should expand the sports side to two different boards. One for LPS sports and the other for College and Proffesional sports. The way the board is growing in membership it will also have to grow in size. Maybe you should check out the new CMD board. It kinda reminds me of the old days here. But like this board it too will grow. I guess what I am saying is nothing ever stays the same and the only thing to do is adapt.
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Wow, who are you? That was one of the best posts you have made in years [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Wow, who are you? That was one of the best posts you have made in years [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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[img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Guess I was just stating the obvious. Nothing stays the same. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]