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What do you think?
Little bit of a broad topic...care to narrow that down?
Plenty of directions to go on this one - probably more questions than answers.
Did they exist? I believe they did.
Did some evolve? I believe they did.
What killed them off? Theories abound. Why did the majority die off, while there's evidence of some creatures alive today being decendants of them (crocs, birds, etc.)? Did evolution do away with the majority of them? Did exteme climate change do it? Did a major asteroid strike do it?
I like the theory of asteroid strike. It leaves open the possibility of a large number dying off while some could survive. It also gives a lead into the reason for climate change, rolling two theories into one.
And one last question. Why are we discussing dinosaurs on the religion forum [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
I was just joking lol
The scientific community did not even accept the fact of asteroid collisions until the early 70's. Even on the moon, they thought most of the crater-work was from vulcanism. The theory of an asteroid wiping out the dinosaurs is a fairly recent one. Two pieces of compelling evidence keep it alive. First, the Chicxulub impact crater. It is a crater discovered on the edge of the Yucatan peninsula by radar topography which was found to be 112 miles in diameter and caused by an object at least 6 miles across. Also, the K-T boundary. This is in short, a layer of earth, fairly visible in many places on earth, where many species' fossils simply disappear. It is recognized by a dark band of sediment, usually riddled with iridium. Most asteroids are iridium rich, which implies that an asteroid strike at this time in the planet's history distributed this thin layer of the element planetwide.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yankeebaseball</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do you think? </div></div>
They're of the devil... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
I just meant do people like them lol.
I was looking at fossils and put it in the wrong forum!
God hates dinosaurs..that's why it doesn't mention them being on the ark.
lol, I was just going to say if I were to be one, Id want to be a tricerotops (sp), cause he is like my bulldog but only with horns!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God hates dinosaurs..that's why it doesn't mention them being on the ark. </div></div>
Bro, don't let your mindsets interfere with fact!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God hates dinosaurs..that's why it doesn't mention them being on the ark. </div></div>
Pretty good one yet....
Gen 6:19 "And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.
Gen 6:20 "Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.
He doesn't mention lions, tigers, deer, or groundhogs either. I believe there were dinosaurs on the ark also. Maybe young ones. God asks Job about the Behemoth and Leviathon. Both were monstrous creatures that could be dinosaurs and Job apparently knew what they were. They thing about pre-flood in the Bible is that apparently no creature ate another yet.
Gen 1:29 And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
Gen 1:30 "Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food"; and it was so.
Gen 6:21 "And you shall take for yourself of all food that is eaten, and you shall gather it to yourself; and it shall be food for you and for them."
Gen 9:2 "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand.
Gen 9:3 "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
So not until man came off the Ark did God grant permission to eat meat. Nor did the animal fear man.
I really just wanted to know if people liked dinosaurs, like the idea of a real Juraasic Park, Id love to ride a T Rex to work everyday
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GC1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God hates dinosaurs..that's why it doesn't mention them being on the ark. </div></div>
He doesn't mention lions, tigers, deer, or groundhogs either. I believe there were dinosaurs on the ark also. Maybe young ones. God asks Job about the Behemoth and Leviathon. Both were monstrous creatures that could be dinosaurs and Job apparently knew what they were.
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It is generally believed and accepted that the "behemoth" referred is a hippo and the "leviathan" a crocodile.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is generally believed and accepted that the "behemoth" referred is a hippo and the "leviathan" a crocodile. </div></div>
Ah but they're still assumptions, nonetheless.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GC1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">God hates dinosaurs..that's why it doesn't mention them being on the ark. </div></div>
He doesn't mention lions, tigers, deer, or groundhogs either. I believe there were dinosaurs on the ark also. Maybe young ones. God asks Job about the Behemoth and Leviathon. Both were monstrous creatures that could be dinosaurs and Job apparently knew what they were.
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It is generally believed and accepted that the "behemoth" referred is a hippo and the "leviathan" a crocodile. </div></div>
I'll believe that too if you will show me a hippo with a tail like a cedar.
Job 40:15 "Look now at the behemoth,[fn1] which I made along with you;
He eats grass like an ox.
Job 40:16 See now, his strength is in his hips,
And his power is in his stomach muscles.
Job 40:17 He moves his tail like a cedar;
The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.
Job 40:18 His bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.
Job 40:19 He is the first of the ways of God;
Only He who made him can bring near His sword.
Job 40:20 Surely the mountains yield food for him,
And all the beasts of the field play there.
Job 40:21 He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.
Job 40:22 The lotus trees cover him with their shade;
The willows by the brook surround him.
Job 40:23 Indeed the river may rage,
Yet he is not disturbed;
He is confident, though the Jordan gushes into his mouth,
Job 40:24 Though he takes it in his eyes,
Or one pierces his nose with a snare.
Or a fire breathing Croc...
Job 41:18 "His sneezes flash forth light, And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
Job 41:19 "Out of his mouth go burning torches; Sparks of fire leap forth.
Job 41:20 "Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth As {from} a boiling pot and {burning} rushes.
Job 41:21 "His breath kindles coals, And a flame goes forth from his mouth.
Job 41:22 "In his neck lodges strength, And dismay leaps before him.
Job 41:23 "The folds of his flesh are joined together, Firm on him and immovable.
Job 41:24 "His heart is as hard as a stone, Even as hard as a lower millstone.
Job 41:25 "When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; Because of the crashing they are bewildered.
If they be dinosaurs, then why doesn't famed historians like Josephus mention such a creature walking the earth at the same time as man?
The point God was making with Job was this: "Since I made both the behemoth and you, Job, and you cannot control even this fellow creature, how dare you think of usurping My place!" ref-Ryrie.
As for the leviathan, the point is to illustrate what a fearsome creature he is. Both creatures would seem unstoppable at that point in history, while a good .458 Win mag would take care of either one of them in our day. Both illustrations are to make a point with Job, and later references to leviathan are used symbolically to further the point.
Seriously, I didint intend for this topic to be like that. I just really like dinosaurs.
So do I. But, the discussion turned into a "believe they were here during Job's day" kind of thing. The study of dinosaur fossil remains is fascinating, and the conjectural animation shows about how some of them may have lived keep me glued to my seat. I would have probably been a velociraptor. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Lol, "clever girl" best line in Jurassic Park. Well, you guys can have at it, lol I just really do like those things
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If they be dinosaurs, then why doesn't famed historians like Josephus mention such a creature walking the earth at the same time as man?
The point God was making with Job was this: "Since I made both the behemoth and you, Job, and you cannot control even this fellow creature, how dare you think of usurping My place!" ref-Ryrie.
As for the leviathan, the point is to illustrate what a fearsome creature he is. Both creatures would seem unstoppable at that point in history, while a good .458 Win mag would take care of either one of them in our day. Both illustrations are to make a point with Job, and later references to leviathan are used symbolically to further the point. </div></div>
Maybe because Josephus lived even after Jesus walked the earth? Or at least was very young then? And Job lived many centuries before Josephus? Just because a historian doesn't mention it doesn't mean it isn't true and in some cases the reverse is also true.
I agree with the points that God was making with Job. But if you believe the Scripture when it says that God created the universe in 6 days then the dinosaurs had to be on earth at the same time as man. Actually if you believe the Scriptures then the rest of the universe didn't come into existence until the the 4th day of creation as the previous days were day and night by God's command that there simply be light.
And a hippo still doesn't have a tail like a cedar, a cedar twig yes [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
This is a trip...my comment about dinos was meant to be sarcastic...maybe you folks that took it any other way should lighten up a bit..
Lighten up? I actually think the topic is an interesting one. We know they were here, there were many different types and sizes of them, when and why did they cease to exist? Come on man, it's just a discussion.
Yeah I know it is...started out as a lil running joke i guess...BUT FOR THE RECORD...yes, I love dinosaurs...
Since no other historical accounts document first-hand experience with dinosaurs, I find it hard to believe they roamed the earth at the same time man was here. I don't think they've ever discovered any cave drawings featuring men interacting with dinos.
We have no idea what constituted a "day" for God either. He created time for man's use and benefit. A "day" could have meant a period of years or even hundreds of years. And God could command the sun to "stand still", so that throws another clinker into the mix.
I believe wholeheartedly that dinosaurs existed, as evidence of them is irrefutable, but I don't think they co-existed with man.
Looking at the skulls of dinosaurs you will notice they resemble birds' skulls.
But f' science, evolution is a myth.
One does not have to be a young earther to be a Christian. Dinosaurs existed, they did not co-exist with man, although there is one cave drawing and one fossilized pair of footprints that might suggest otherwise.
Flavius Josephus wrote "The Antiquities Of The Jews" the work most often credited as the primary source for a historical Christ outside of the Bible. A scrib seems to have done some creative editing of one of the two passages that speak of Christ, thus raising questions as to the true tone of that passage as originally written by Josephus. The other passage clearly shows a strong dislike of Christ by the author.
I don't believe Josephus dealt with any natural history. No reason to expect any such thing in his work.
What? All the Land of the Lost is false????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What? All the Land of the Lost is false???? </div></div>
NOW you've went and done it! Are you trying to say there were no Sleestak? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]
My neighbors are sleestacks...
"Daddy do something! Ahhhhh!!"
Showing our ages on here now.
"Marshall, Will, and Holly
on a routine expidition
and the greatest earthquake ever known
high on the rapids
it struck their tiny raft
and plunged them down a thousand feet below...
to the Land of the Lost"
Talk about showing someone's age...typed that directly from memory!
When I was little, I would hear it coming on on saturday morning and I'd run in the livin room to watch it. But, I'd hide behind the chair until the opening credits were finished cuz that big ol T rex tryin to get in the Family's cave scared me...but I was like 3..lol...I liked Sigmund and the Sea Monsters too.
Yeah, Saturday mornings have definitely pansied out since then. Look at NBC, ABC, and CBS now, and it looks like the discovery channel for kids all morning. Kids have all week to learn at school. Saturday mornings should be an escape, like they used to be.
Yeah...I used to get up around 8 am on saturdays and watch justice league, then around 10 it was bugs bunny on cbs for a couple of hours..then either land of the lost, sigmund and the sea monsters, shazaam..or whatever was on...the cartoon "thundaar the barbarian" i watched some too...lol..then at 12 it was NWA wrestling then either the MLB game of the week during the spring and summer or College football in the fall and winter...those were good times.
Smurfs. Garfield and Friends. Bugs Bunny.
Admittedly I did watch an episode or two of Jem.
What about Muppet Babies? That was an adventure, because dreams would come true! I agree, saturday mornings for kids are nothing like they used to be.
If a cartoon wasn't on tv before 1982...I prolly missed it
Was The Snorks a cartoon or am I making that up?
How about the Fraggles [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] Not a cartoon but still good entertainment.
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