For everyone

I am sad to say that I wish to no longer be a member of this forum. Rock plese take me completly off of here. But before you do I would like to say some things. First off Rock you are one of the poorest leaders that I have ever witnessed. You never even set the example for anyone. You talk really big with your power trip in behind your computer. I have no respect for you as a human being but I will pray for you though.. YOu had a personal thing against me the whole time I was on here and always tried to show out in your post to me. You need serios help. You gget a kick out of it and all the while you reveal your true colors. No one will say anything to you because you will kick them off of your little forum. Cane... in the beginning I like you a little... but then you became a big headache for me. Trying to get me to confirm to your ways of thinking and posting things. I chose not to listen to you so you turned on me as well. THat is okay though. I am not the judge but I find it hard to believe that you or Rock are living for CHRIST.. I have seen no fruit whatsoever from either of you. You all always hide behind things and both of you are sraddling the fence... one day you 2 need to get off the fence. Elp6n if your friend or family do not repent from being gay... they will have to face God one day reguardless of what you believe. YOu are a trouble maker and always threw fuel on the fire.YOu say you are a cHRISTIAN? wELL.... You need to figure out what a Christian is and what they believe first. Mik Mo... you are just a plain fool and tha is all I wil say about that. Counts as a moderator thanks for setting the example.. you should be over all this since you are mature and know how to act. And one More Retired Teach.. you are a good moderator as well, keep up the good work. In closing I have said my peace if it offends you then oh well.. my time is up here and I hope in some good way some eyes are opened. THank you and God bless you.

Be more than glad to remove you.

Pac-Man, I dont really care if you have no respect for me. To me, there is nothing better than not having a zealot who can not think for themselves not like me.


I dont know you, so how could I have a personal thing against you? I can't help that you try to preach without having substance over half the time.


You may be right, I may need help myself and I may not be living for Christ, glad you dont judge though...

Oh I dont judge BUT THIS IS WHAT I THINK....you still dont get it

Hope someday you do.

Homophobe.
And you know what they say about those...
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Calling someone a fool can be wrong. Jesus condemned calling one a fool out of unjustified anger (Matt. 5:22). If one calls another a fool out of sinful hate, then calling someone such a name (or any similar term) is wrong.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Be more than glad to remove you.

Pac-Man, I dont really care if you have no respect for me. To me, there is nothing better than not having a zealot who can not think for themselves not like me.


I dont know you, so how could I have a personal thing against you? I can't help that you try to preach without having substance over half the time.


You may be right, I may need help myself and I may not be living for Christ, glad you dont judge though...

Oh I dont judge BUT THIS IS WHAT I THINK....you still dont get it

Hope someday you do.


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i DO NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT for you at all. I am not judging you.. I am judging by the fruit you bear.. I do not know if you are saved or not only God knows that and maybe you but I say no fruit whatsoever.I was not preaching believe me... I had substance but you do not recognize the truth.. you are 2 sided all the time... be a man one day and stand up for what you believe!!! Get off the fence.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am not judging you.. I am judging by the fruit you bear</div></div>
Semantics.

There is the little troublemaker that causes trouble and then disappears for a few posts.

I disappear because I'm working.
post real quick - get back to work.
wash rinse repeat.

Homophobe.

Yes, Pac-Man you are judging Rock, Cane, Elpn. You are judging everyone. You just defend yourself and call it something else, so you wont be going against the bible. The majority of every so called christian nut case in this area does it. They do exactly what they preach to other people to not do. But they always have a reason, or a justification for their actions.
And you can't tell someone they aren't living for Christ. When it's a personal relationship you have with Christ, not a relationship defined by someone else who calls themself a 'christian'.
Yes sir, you make me sick. You are an [censored].

Ummm if I tell you where I think you are wrong, doesn't that mean I am standing up for what I believe?

If I tell you that you are lying and are wrong, am I not standing up for it.

If I provide facts that back up what I say and you choose not to answer, who is the man and who is not.

You are a minion of Satan and I am just going by the fruit you bare. You have been proven to be full of hate and lies, you condemn and down all others, what fruit is that?

ditto on the rock.. pretty good point.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I disappear because I'm working.
post real quick - get back to work.
wash rinse repeat.

Homophobe. </div></div>

Likely story.. but not denying that you are a trouble maker.. have you ever been accused of that before?

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. (Matthew 7:15-20)


If you read on here, you have turned every single other poster against what you said. Sounds like bad fruit to me.

at least she has the facts to back up everything she says. I haven't seen an ignorant post from her yet.
You on the other hand, are an idiot that has convinced himself that he is right no matter what, and the God he serves is all great. But I'm sorry, I dont want to serve your God, because that god must be full of hate and lies.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, Pac-Man you are judging Rock, Cane, Elpn. You are judging everyone. You just defend yourself and call it something else, so you wont be going against the bible. The majority of every so called christian nut case in this area does it. They do exactly what they preach to other people to not do. But they always have a reason, or a justification for their actions.
And you can't tell someone they aren't living for Christ. When it's a personal relationship you have with Christ, not a relationship defined by someone else who calls themself a 'christian'.
Yes sir, you make me sick. You are an [censored]. </div></div>

The Bible says that we should know them by the fruit that they bear. I just said I see no fruit.. I never questioned their personal relationship with God. I do not know if they love od or not.. only they do. So that is not judging. Big words.. do you cuss a lot.... or what. I know who you are [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

Take your ball and go home w/your supposed 4 sacks/game back in '91. Legend in your own mind, plus a person so stuck in a religious delerium that they can't tell when they're doing wrong by other people.

I feel sorry for you. Goodbye and good riddance.

Hope you get your mind straight before you stand before your maker too pal...you'll have to answer for those that you drive away from the Lord when you stand there.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ummm if I tell you where I think you are wrong, doesn't that mean I am standing up for what I believe?

If I tell you that you are lying and are wrong, am I not standing up for it.

If I provide facts that back up what I say and you choose not to answer, who is the man and who is not.

You are a minion of Satan and I am just going by the fruit you bare. You have been proven to be full of hate and lies, you condemn and down all others, what fruit is that?

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Not true.. you are just trying to go up in the polls.. just like a politician.

Troublemaker? No.
But I'm by far the most extreme opposite of meek and meager you can get. Don't judge me because I'm a woman - you're messing with the wrong one. You good sir dont know who you're messing with. I speak my mind. You don't want my opinon? Don't ever ask for it because you'll sure as hell get it. I got all the backbone in my family and it has served me well. (And just for S&G go back to my first post on the this forum where I said I wasn't going to argue homosexuality with you - you begged for it.)

Ok you say not true, all you have to do is prove it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Troublemaker? No.
But I'm by far the most extreme opposite of meek and meager you can get. Don't judge me because I'm a woman - you're messing with the wrong one. I speak my mind. You don't want my opinon? Don't ever ask for it because you'll sure as hell get it. I got all the backbone in my family and it has served me well. (And just for S&G go back to my first post on the this forum where I said I wasn't going to argue homosexuality with you - you begged for it.) </div></div>

Oooh. look out. I am done with talking to you.. later.

I thought you were done, period.
But alas, you cannot resist.
You are weak willed.

well that's great that you do know who I am.. and cussin? me? never. The only 'cuss word' is using Gods name in vain.
I think it's hilarious that the religious world has made certain words, as "cuss" words when they mean the exact same thing as crap, butt, etc...
religion, it'll be the downfall of all mankind.

There is no God
When you die, that's the end of it, so live it up.
A bunch of men wrote this garbage that the weak use as a crutch and call it a Bible.



EDIT: Being very sarcastic obviously. There is a God, and he has as much disdain for the hypocrite as he does the sinner. At least the sinner is what he is, and is not trying to put on a veil, using his teachings to your own interpetation, and trying to force others to believe what you believe.

I think he just exploded....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think he just exploded....

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Yep, ready to take us all on now... I'm scared. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

i'm frightened.. oh no! somebody please help me... (i'm sayin that with the voice of the guy who does the "clear eye" commercials"..haha)

What, no parting shot at me?? I believe I'm the culprit who finally pushed you over the edge. Pac-man, you need to accept the TRUTH, and not in the manner you've been trying to force-feed the folks on here. Witnessing must be done with tolerance and consideration for others, first and foremost. Jesus won believers by His walk, not His talk.

Only shot you got was on the poll thread. And that was just saying you voted for me.

By the way, whomever voted both, you're gone LOL

j/k [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

I always thought that you were supposed to be a light unto the world, that you were supposed to lead by example, the way you live your life, letting folks see the peace, love and joy that serving God brings, that you were to tell the world how good Almighty God has been to you/blessings that he has bestowed upon you, not browbeating folks, being hypocritical, and finally resorting to name-calling. Religion is like filhy rags if you allow yourself to be wrapped up into it so tightly that you lose sight of the way that you win folks for Christ.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I always thought that you were supposed to be a light unto the world, that you were supposed to lead by example, the way you live your life, letting folks see the peace, love and joy that serving God brings, that you were to tell the world how good Almighty God has been to you/blessings that he has bestowed upon you, not browbeating folks, being hypocritical, and finally resorting to name-calling. Religion is like filhy rags if you allow yourself to be wrapped up into it so tightly that you lose sight of the way that you win folks for Christ. </div></div>

AMEN!!! That's essentially what I tried to tell him yesterday, but my words were apparently wasted.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no God
When you die, that's the end of it, so live it up.
A bunch of men wrote this garbage that the weak use as a crutch and call it a Bible.



EDIT: Being very sarcastic obviously. There is a God, and he has as much disdain for the hypocrite as he does the sinner. At least the sinner is what he is, and is not trying to put on a veil, using his teachings to your own interpetation, and trying to force others to believe what you believe. </div></div>

You better hope that you are right.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think he just exploded....

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Yep, ready to take us all on now... I'm scared. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] </div></div>

You better be [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What, no parting shot at me?? I believe I'm the culprit who finally pushed you over the edge. Pac-man, you need to accept the TRUTH, and not in the manner you've been trying to force-feed the folks on here. Witnessing must be done with tolerance and consideration for others, first and foremost. Jesus won believers by His walk, not His talk. </div></div>

I understand that fact that there was a lot on here not ready to accept the truth. But I am not compromising the truth like some have on here. Silence is a compromise also.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I always thought that you were supposed to be a light unto the world, that you were supposed to lead by example, the way you live your life, letting folks see the peace, love and joy that serving God brings, that you were to tell the world how good Almighty God has been to you/blessings that he has bestowed upon you, not browbeating folks, being hypocritical, and finally resorting to name-calling. Religion is like filhy rags if you allow yourself to be wrapped up into it so tightly that you lose sight of the way that you win folks for Christ. </div></div>

I never called anyone anything... you may need to go back and read from the beginning and you wil see that Centenialdawg, elph6, and mostly Rock was the one that was calling the names. Elph6 started most of it and then Rock would not stop what he was doing. Read it for yourself. I jsut became upset and yes that is wrong... no excuses though.....I was wrong to do that.. but I had had enough of them. I lost it yes.... no excuses.. Jesus does not act like that.. I did though.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Indian_Dad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I always thought that you were supposed to be a light unto the world, that you were supposed to lead by example, the way you live your life, letting folks see the peace, love and joy that serving God brings, that you were to tell the world how good Almighty God has been to you/blessings that he has bestowed upon you, not browbeating folks, being hypocritical, and finally resorting to name-calling. Religion is like filhy rags if you allow yourself to be wrapped up into it so tightly that you lose sight of the way that you win folks for Christ. </div></div>

AMEN!!! That's essentially what I tried to tell him yesterday, but my words were apparently wasted. </div></div>

No I do not think so.. read again.. you did the same thing that you accused me of doing.. but since you were doing it, it was okay. Read the whole thing please.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Homophobe.
And you know what they say about those...
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Here she is again.. jsut because she knows I stand firm in saying that homosexuality is against the Word of God. But she agrees with it though by her own words.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ummm if I tell you where I think you are wrong, doesn't that mean I am standing up for what I believe?

If I tell you that you are lying and are wrong, am I not standing up for it.

If I provide facts that back up what I say and you choose not to answer, who is the man and who is not.

You are a minion of Satan and I am just going by the fruit you bare. You have been proven to be full of hate and lies, you condemn and down all others, what fruit is that?

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I have never heard you say anything that you believe in.. because you are on the fence and GUESS YOU did not want to offend peole like you say that I do. Who knows.I remember now.. you said that you do not like Manson .. but at the same time you said it is okay for kids and anyone else to listen to his music and stuff because it was all just a show.

The point is you have your views and each of us have ours too...you can't go into a tirade cuz someone doesn't agree with you...and when ya are called on something that you say about a subject that is disproven, it is common courtesy to eat crow...that is how this works..

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. (Matthew 7:15-20)


If you read on here, you have turned every single other poster against what you said. Sounds like bad fruit to me.
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Here is Rock trying to spread that I am a false prophet... what do you think of that.. he is a moderator!!!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R0cketer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. (Matthew 7:15-20)


If you read on here, you have turned every single other poster against what you said. Sounds like bad fruit to me.
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Here is Rock trying to spread that I am a false prophet... what do you think of that.. he is a moderator!!!Is this the first time you used scripture? Be careful everybody will think you are being intolerant of other religions.