The Great and Mighty Alabama Crimson Tide is trailing Louisiana Monroe 21-14 with 9 minutes remaining.
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The Great and Mighty Alabama Crimson Tide is trailing Louisiana Monroe 21-14 with 9 minutes remaining.
Stick a fork in 'em!!!!
Looks like the win over the Vols will be the last one for Satan this year.
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Have they won a game since that emotional win over UT?
8-3 > 6-5
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hahha
when you lose to a team head to head by three td's, you arent the better team ut fans
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Nope, not on that day we weren't, Bama just whipped us, however, how embarrasing is it to lose to the (5-6) Louisiana-Monroe WarHawks of the great Sun Belt conference, that my friend is embarrasing. Have fun in the humanitarianlasvegasoddsfirenicksaban.com Bowl.
ups and downs my friend
Unless Satan can conjure up some devilish spell, he ain't gonna be bowling.
when ua beats au, then well go to a bowl
Yep, and if a frog had wings it wouldn't be a [censored] frog.
Bama ain't beatin' AU...Bama will prolly get the Emerald Nuts Bowl or somethin tho. They'd prolly get someone from the WAC or somethin that they can compete with then tho..lol
Don't know if you all have paid attention, but Bama has 5 starters out for violation of rules... Oh and they have been reinstated by the NCAA for the Auburn game.
Ut really should take note here, we suspend kids for text book violation..... It take 3-4 failed drug test before fulmer kicks off a player.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bleed Crimson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't know if you all have paid attention, but Bama has 5 starters out for violation of rules... Oh and they have been reinstated by the NCAA for the Auburn game.
Ut really should take note here, we suspend kids for text book violation..... It take 3-4 failed drug test before fulmer kicks off a player. </div></div>
Yeah, you never heard Coke-er mentioned very much either, did you? Failed 4 drug tests. They seem to be blind to infractions of their own.
The drug policy is set by the school. Not the coach. It's the same policy that most SEC schools have. Fulmer wanted to boot him earlier but wasn't allowed to by the school. That's why Coker had enough carries to count on both hands this year.
I'm sure the Coach can suspend him from the team and sit him on the bench though.
LaMarcus Coker 7 Gms. 45 Car. 169 Yds. More than a handful.
How can you be suspended from the team and sit on the bench? If it's an institutional policy that he for some crazy reason gets 4 chances and he's punished by what would be considered early (after 2,3) then the kid would have a case for legal action, discrimination, etc. He probably wouldn't but he could.
Suspend from the team and sit on the bench are two options of the coach. How can he take action if he rides the pine?
He can't suspend him from the team when according to the insitution the kid didn't do anything to be kicked off the team. Also, I don't think he failed 4 drug tests either. He was booted for not going to the counseling that he was supposed to be attending.
Sophomore tailback LaMarcus Coker, who'd shown flashes of brilliance on the field during his brief Tennessee career, has run out of chances off the field.
Coker was dismissed from the team Friday after failing his fourth drug test, sources told ESPN.com. Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer first announced Coker's dismissal in a statement issued by the university and later expressed remorse that Coker had chosen this path despite an outpouring of support from several different people at Tennessee.
"I'm disappointed for him," Fulmer said following the Vols' practice. "This is his life, and I hope he gets straightened out and succeeds in whatever he chooses to do. I can lay my head on my pillow and know that, within the rules, we have done everything we can to help LaMarcus overcome his challenges.
"I take that very seriously when I sit in the living room with a family. I have spoken to his mother, and she is appreciative to everyone as is LaMarcus.
[quote=Biggin]hahha
when you lose to a team head to head by three td's, you arent the better team ut fans
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and Kentucky is a better team than LSU,
for that one day
Just like the last time you posted the story about Johnson and McCoy "flashing a gun" at a Tennessee wildlife officer, you didn't come back with the rest of the story. McCoy and Johnson were cleared of all charges and it was found that the officer had several questionable incidents in his past and had fabricated stories before. The same thing with Coker. That was the story that initially came out, it was later said that he hadn't been going to the drug treatment counseling that he was required to go to. I'd rather the kid be a pot head than several other things, like a coke dealer, armed robbers, rapists, theives. You see stuff like that all the time with any college program. Pot's the last thing I'm concerned about.
btw...you can answer for these if you want. This thing is 3-4 years old too and not even counting what "the faces" of your program have been up to. Notice how many of the theives, rapists, and other fun loving criminals Beamer let back on the team. You gotta know, when you sling $hit, you're not going to come out clean. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
Jimmy Kibble ? while serving as an assistant coach at Osbourn Park High (his alma mater) he was investigated after allegedly having sexually explicit internet conversations with minors. It was subsequently found that the 3-time All-Big East punter had also been having sex with two 16-year-old girls at the school. He later pled guilty to four counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Derrius Monroe - originally suspended "indefinitely" after he was indicted on cocaine distribution charges. As part of a plea bargain, the charges were dropped and Monroe was placed on two years' probation in exchange for testimony against the distribution ring's alleged leader, Hokie football player Manny Clemente. Monroe was then reinstated to the team...
Manny Clemente- was charged with being the trafficker who brought the cocaine into Blacksburg from New York.
Marcus Vick- You guys know the story here. The younger brother of Atlanta Falcons star Michael Vick was convicted in May on three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor after he and two teammates gave alcohol to 14- and 15-year-old girls at their apartment and took pictures of them stripping. On the plus side, Vick was actually acquitted of a charge of having sex with one of the underage gals. It looked like he might just have to sit out a few games until his arrest on charges of reckless driving and marijuana possession after cops pulled him over doing 86 mph. Vick conveniently sat out a season when he was slated as the backup, but returned to the team in time for spring practice so that he could assume the starting QB role.
Mike Imoh- Gave vodka to 14 and 15 year old girls. Got them undressed, took pictures while the girls lap-danced. Convicted on three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Also sentenced to jail time and fined. Sat out three games to start last year then returned to starter's role in time for WVU game.
Brandon Pace- Maybe not dangerous, but certainly criminally dumb. His activities landed him on a few Web sites, including badjocks.com, where he led the site's "Who did something stupid today?"? section. A link was posted to an online photo album, which took viewers to webshots.com, a site that allows users to post their digital pictures in a slideshow format for their friends to view. Pace posted several pictures, many of them showing him consuming alcohol. Walk-on Jesse Allen, Tech's backup fullback, is also seen drinking in some of the pictures.
Frank Beamer is aware of the photos and has talked to Pace. Said Beamer, "I think it's a privacy issue between his family, Brandon and this football team. That's about all I've got to say about it"?
DJ Walton- Walton played on special teams in 2002 before he was convicted for driving under the influence twice and dismissed from the team. Walton returned to school in January 2004 with a renewed enthusiasm and focused on changing his behavior, according to a story written April 24, 2004, in the Potomac News.
Beamer allowed DJ to return to the football team in "?04, when he played in two games, making eight tackles.
The 22-year-old defensive back was again dismissed from the team his senior season after being charged with four counts of robbery, four counts of possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony, four counts of abduction and one count of possessing marijuana in connection with an armed robbery in Prince William County.
Todd Nolen- Virginia Tech WR recruit was arrested on one count of felony maiming and one week later he was arrested and charged with felony attempted robbery. The arrests stem from Nolan's alleged attempt to rob a fellow high school student of seven baggies of marijuana. Nolen was cited for punching the student and fracturing his jaw, while another choked him and attacked him with a knife. Nolen suffered a cut to the face during the incident. Nolen is still listed as a VT recruit. Currently at prep school, VT officials refuse to comment on his status with their program.
Charles Steger- "The best thing for everyone is for the ACC to remain at nine teams and for the Big East to remain as it is. I think there needs to be a moral approach to this whole thing. I don't think people can be out there just wrecking a conference. . . . At some point, you've got to have a moral concern about what you're doing.''
Jim Weaver- "Absolutely, the Big East is the best place for us. This is where we want to be."
Jim Druckenmiller- charged once with malicious wounding while at Tech. Later returned to campus and was accused of rape by a tech coed. Druck was acquitted, largely because the victims blood alcohol level was estimated at 0.30 (very near fatal levels) when the alleged incident took place and she was understandably fuzzy on the details.
Antonio Banks - Charged with Assault and Battery in December of '95.
Tony Morrison- Charged with petty larceny, destruction of property, public intoxication, and possession of fake driver's license ... all AFTER he had been suspended from VT for 2 semesters for "unspecified behaviors"? and then allowed to re-enroll and rejoin the football team, just in time for the season opener.
Following these charges, Morrison was suspended for the Sugar Bowl, but was seen in the stands during the game.
``He's a very good person and comes from a great family,'' Frank Beamer said. ``Like some young people, he made a mistake and he understands every day he needs to do things to make his life successful."?
``I'm hoping he'll be back in the program. I've talked to him about what I expect, and that's between he and I.''
Morrison and reserve receiver James Crawford - who was also suspended after being arrested in a separate incident (see below) - were remembered by teammates in New Orleans thanks to defensive end Cornell Brown. Brown wore the two players' jersey numbers taped over the ``VT'' logo on his helmet in practice.
James Crawford- Defraud of a garage, leaving scene of accident, convicted of disorderly conduct. Suspended for Sugar Bowl and later linked again with Antonio Morrison's exploits (below)
After the season "?95 ended, a VT coed came forward with a claim that she had been raped and sodomized by Antonio Morrison and James Crawford in "?94, that she had reported it to university authorities, and that they had tried to protect the players.
Christy Brzonkala was allegedly raped after she and her friend Hope Handley came to Morrison's suite in Cochrane athletic dormitory, which was on the same hall as Handley's suite. Wagner said Morrison raped Brzonkala after Handley and Crawford left the room. Crawford re-entered the room and raped Brzonkala while Morrison held her down, Wagner said. There may have been another football player in the room or just outside of the room during the alleged assault. Handley never returned.
Brzonkala, a six-foot-one varsity softball player and former fashion model, did not bring federal charges against the defendants until she had exhausted other measures. Brzonkala had overdosed on prescription drugs and alcohol in October 1994 after suffering from depression and exhibiting signs of post-traumatic stress disorder.
In the spring of 1995, Brzonkala brought charges against Morrison and Crawford before a confidential university disciplinary committee.
Crawford was found not guilty after All-American Hokie football player Cornell Brown said he was with Crawford in another room at the time of the alleged rape. Two committees suspended Morrison for a year after finding him guilty of sexual assault.
In June 1995, Tech Dean of Students Katherine Goree upheld Morrison's motion for an appeal. He was subsequently allowed to re-enroll in time for the football season.
After college proceedings failed to punish Morrison and Crawford, Christy Brzonkala filed suit under the Violence Against Women Act. The case reached the Supreme Court as United States v. Morrison. Brzonkala also sued Virginia Tech for allegedly protecting the football players and attempting to dissuade her from pursuing her case. Virginia Tech eventually settled for $75,000 a relatively small sum that did not in itself seriously affect the university financially; however, the case damaged Virginia Tech's reputation and raised a firestorm of controversy over Virginia Tech's handling of sexual crimes.
Cornell Brown- Cornell Brown was found guilty of misdemeanor assault for his part in the Blacksburg Brawl. Like those found guilty before him, Cornell was sentenced to 30 days in jail, with all but two suspended. (that means if he behaves himself on the first day, they let him go, with time off for good behavior).
When Brown was charged and suspended one game (vs. ECU) for his role in The Brawl. Later that season, Cornell showed up for the Orange Bowl bid press conference dressed in a ski mask with no mouth hole, which was his way of letting the press know that his famous silence towards the media would continue.
Once he arrived at the Orange Bowl, he taped over the VT logo on his helmet with the numbers of suspended players, just as he had done at the Sugar Bowl the year before. And during a halftime ceremony at a Tech basketball game in which the 1996 Big East Champion Hokies were honored, Cornell stayed in the stands and did not go down on the basketball court.
Tyron Edmond - was the first Tech football player to be convicted in the Blacksburg Brawl trials (nine Football players were accused of assaulting a track athlete and his friend) Edmond was convicted of assault and battery and was given 30 days in jail, with all but two suspended. No further discipline was issued from the university or team.
Sean Sullivan- TE , another player in the "Blacksburg Brawl. Sullivan was found guilty on one of two assault charges (not guilty of assaulting Tech track athlete Hilliard Sumner, but guilty of assaulting Sumner's friend Jonathon Nelson
Nat Williams- DT charged with assault in connection with The Brawl.
Michael Hawkes- charged with assault in connection with The Brawl.
Angelo Harrison- Harrison was charged with felony malicious wounding for his role in the Blacksburg Brawl, he was accused of beating track athlete Hilliard Sumner with a cane, breaking Sumner's collar bone in the process.
Brian Edmonds- pled no-contest to a charge of disorderly conduct in connection with the Blacksburg Brawl. Brian plea-bargained the charge down to disorderly conduct from its original assault and battery.
Edmonds also was accused, along with James Crawford (remember him?), of raping a female student in their apartment in 1996. Both were indicted on rape and attempted sodomy charges. Each conceded that the prosecution had enough evidence to convict them of attempted aggravated sexual battery, but did not admit guilt. Each received a one-year suspended sentence.
Kenny Harrell- hokie hoopster kicked out of school for firing a gun on campus.
Michael Vick- APRIL 5, 2005--Claiming that Michael Vick gave her herpes, a Georgia woman is suing the star NFL quarterback for negligence and battery. According to the below lawsuit, Sonya Elliot, a 26-year-old health care worker, was infected with the sexually transmitted disease in April 2003 after an unprotected encounter with Vick at the athlete's Duluth, Georgia home. Elliott alleges that after testing positive for Herpes Simplex 2, she confronted the Atlanta Falcons star, 24, about her condition. "I've got something to tell you. I've got it," Vick admitted to her, according to Elliott's State Court complaint, which alleges that Vick then told her that "he had not known how to tell her about his condition, and that it was not something that he liked to talk about." Elliott's complaint also contends that Vick "apologized profusely" for not telling her he was infected with the STD. Elliot's lawsuit alleges that Vick has used the name "Ron Mexico" and, in a related court filing, her lawyers are seeking Vick's admission that he used the "Mexico" alias--and perhaps other fake names--"for the purpose of herpes testing and/or treatment." In her lawsuit, which does not specify monetary damages, Elliott states that she met Vick at a Virginia Beach nightclub in May 2001 and, shortly thereafter, began a close personal relationship with the football star (though the couple did not have sex until late-2002). Last December, Vick, the top overall pick in the 2001 National Football League draft, signed a ten-year, $130 million contract with the Falcons, the richest deal in league history. (17 pages)
Theodore Miller- arrested in connection with a gun-brandishing incident that occurred on Virginia Tech's campus this year. Miller is accused of being the passenger who pointed a pellet gun at a Virginia Tech student from the window of Brandon Flowers' SUV, and Miller has been charged with brandishing a firearm, a misdemeanor.
Brandon Flowers- see Theo Miller.
Rolan Roberts- suspended from Virginia Tech for a year by the university's Judicial Review Board. The charges he was "convicted" of by the board are assault and sexual misconduct. Arising from the same incident, fellow basketball player Dennis Mims (more below) was convicted of assault.
Roberts was suspended from Tech for the 2000-2001 academic school year, while Mims was placed on "deferred suspension," which still left him eligible to attend school and play basketball
The two players were convicted as a result of a charge by a female Tech student, who says the two players raped her.
Dennis Mims- Mims was later suspended indefinitely.... TWICE (attaboy Dennis!) ...once for "violating a team rule on class attendance".... And again Tech forward after an episode during practice in which Mims "blew up" at Coach Ricky Stokes...or possibly for a locker room incident after a game vs. Dayton. (???)
Brad Baylor- DT charged with felony abduction in a case involving a UVa student who claimed that Baylor held him captive and forced him to drink alcohol to unconsciousness.
Pedro Edison- TE, was charged by the Blacksburg police with three misdemeanors, including resisting arrest, breaking the windshield in a private vehicle near his apartment, and shattering a window in a police car. The incident started with a call to the Blacksburg police, who responded to University Terrace just before midnight when a caller said a man had used his foot to shatter a car windshield. Witnesses identified Edison, whom police said had to be subdued with pepper spray. Edison was placed in the back seat of a marked police car. Within minutes, police say he kicked out a back window.
Earlier in the year, Edison had pled guilty to a misdemeanor reckless driving charge resulting from a vehicular accident in Augusta County in 1996. Edison was driving friends home from a party when he wrecked his car, resulting in the death of one of the passengers. Edison passed a breathalyzer test at the scene and was not charged with driving while intoxicated. He had simply been driving too fast, admitting to police that he traveled 55 miles per hour in a 25 mph zone. Facing a felony involuntary manslaughter charge, Edison plea-bargained the charge to reckless driving. Edison is scheduled to serve a jail sentence at the conclusion of the academic semester for that offense.
Corey Moore- DE, Lombardi winner - Corey Moore of the Buffalo Bills was charged with aggravated assault after a fight in which he hit a man with a beer bottle. A few weeks after his arrest, Moore was shot in the leg by an unidentified man. Moore told authorities a man walked up to his vehicle as he waited for a red light to change and shot through an open window. It was not clear if the fight and shooting are related.
Andre Kendrick- Kendrick was suspended but was later reinstated to the team Hokie football team. Later charged with marijuana possession.
Marcus Parker- convicted of shoplifting from a Blacksburg grocery store. Suspended for four games to start the season, he was called back into duty when starting RB Brian Edmonds was left in Blacksburg as the team traveled to a game with Nebraska. Edmonds had been suspended for his arrest on rape and attempted sodomy charges.
Parker finished his college career a hokie and was drafted by the Bengals.
George DelRicco- George Del Ricco was having a party at his Terrace View apartment to celebrate his free-agent signing when the third-floor balcony of Del Ricco's apartment, which was loaded with approximately 20 people and a keg full of beer in a trash can full of ice, collapsed onto the balcony below. Unfortunately, the party was also going on at the second floor level as well, with people on that balcony, too. Both balconies then collapsed and fell to the ground.
Three people were hospitalized.
Jesus Rodriguez- charged with grand larceny and three counts of misdemeanor petit larceny after stealing at least $3,000 in jewelry and other items from six fellow Virginia Tech students. The victims include Tech basketball player Shawn Browne, who had a $2,000 necklace stolen from his locker, Jesus' next door neighbors (hundreds of dollars in bracelets and necklaces), and the inhabitants of two dorm rooms in Cochran Hall (a watch and $475 in compact discs).
Walter Ford ? in "?97 was convicted in a shoplifting scheme in which he "purchased" nearly $200 worth of stuff from the Tech bookstore for 22 cents. Ford committed this crime shortly after the Blacksburg Brawl story broke, and shortly after Frank Beamer had said, "The next player who screws up is history."
Frank Beamer dismissed Walter Ford and stated that he would not be reinstated to the team.
The cashier who "sold" him the merchandise was convicted in the case, and in Ford's original trial in December, he pled innocent but was found guilty. Ford alleged that other football team members had shoplifted as well.
Ford was dismissed from the team in October, and reinstated by Coach Beamer for spring practice "on a conditional basis."
He missed the Hokie Spring game though, as the game date inconveniently conflicted with his jail term. He rejoined the team after being released.
I don't care if you had to play the 3rd string...it was Louisiana Monroe..lol
[quote=Bleed Crimson]Don't know if you all have paid attention, but Bama has 5 starters out for violation of rules... Oh and they have been reinstated by the NCAA for the Auburn game.
Ut really should take note here, we suspend kids for text book violation..... It take 3-4 failed drug test before fulmer kicks off a player.
Guess Bama fans can blame Fulmer for getting into trouble again. Alabama has the "Million Dollar Band" and a 2 million dollar offensive line.
Louisiana Monroe - Monroe LA?, 21
University of Alabama - Tuscaloosa 14
Oh yea there's no doubt it's a team we should have beat. And Michigan should have been Appy St. too. Saban has a really good recruiting class comming in so far and that is not counting the blue chip recruits that wait last minute to decide.
I don't think anybody expected a national championship this year. We fired the head coach after the last regular season game, so the assistants were out trying to recruit the best they could Saban did not come in until recruiting was pretty well over and we couldn't sell the season to the recruits we did go after because no one knew who the coach would be.
He won a National Title at Lsu in 4 years and now his assistant is #1 in the nation with Sabans last year of service recruits. I say give him time... The Tide is Turning.
A funny factoid I saw about Nick Satan. With his giant contract that he signed, Bama's paying him $666,667 for each win this year.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bleed Crimson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't know if you all have paid attention, but Bama has 5 starters out for violation of rules... Oh and they have been reinstated by the NCAA for the Auburn game.
Ut really should take note here, we suspend kids for text book violation..... It take 3-4 failed drug test before fulmer kicks off a player. </div></div>
Kind of like how Satan suspends DJ Hall for the game for violation of team rules, then lets him come back after halftime.
half of those didn't happen while at VT...a couple were basketball players under Ricky Stokes...that's a little bit of a stretch when you're basically including any time any person at VT gets into trouble when comparing football programs...i don't think Beamer is responsible for his kids after they leave the program...nor is Fulmer for his
I'm not including anything. It was a Washington Post story by Tony Kornheiser that I c&p'ed. It's easy to identify basketball from football and before and after incidents with VT football players. All you have to do is look at how many have the phrase or something similar of "and then allowed to re-enroll and rejoin the football team". I said above, there's this and more at every university in the country. Nobody is exempt from it and banging on a pot head kid is the least of my worries if I see a list like that or many others.
i know, and i know you didn't make that up...i've seen it before on this board
but one of those is actually a case of a college kid drinking alcohol...b/c that never happens
again, i know you know this happens everywhere...but some people on here don't, or would like to think it don't
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but one of those is actually a case of a college kid drinking alcohol...b/c that never happens</div></div>
When that happens to a Lee Smith or a Josh McNeil at UT, GC1 makes sure it's posted before the kids citation is written. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
understandably so though...some UT fans, or (fill in the blank) fans are quick to point out anytime a VT player runs a stop sign
It happens with everyone from everywhere. I'd much rather a kid be smoking pot than drinking to be honest with you. At least or more than likely anyway, he's not going to kill someone. I could care less what happens at other schools. Unless it's some kind of violence thing, it never catches my attention. The only time it's brought up by myself, is when I fall into the trap of responding and use it as retaliation.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ironlung</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but one of those is actually a case of a college kid drinking alcohol...b/c that never happens</div></div>
When that happens to a Lee Smith or a Josh McNeil at UT, GC1 makes sure it's posted before the kids citation is written. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] </div></div>
And I remember a post piled high with [censored] the other day over a player (Friday) from VT getting in a fight. I hadn't mentioned Coker before that. I know that players are going to get in trouble, heck I was young once myself and enjoyed slinging a few back and did worse than that. But if every time a VT player gets a parking ticket it results in a 21 page thread then you can't but expect to have it thrown back in your face when the shoe is on the other foot.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">your face </div></div>
Please show me where I participated. And calm down biggin. I'm just busting your chops. You can post all the stuff about Coker the smoker all you want. It's no skin off my ass. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
btw... After going back and looking at that post, all of the comments were from your Hurricane buddies, a Clemson fan, and a FSU fan. Until UTVols2 made a couple posts toward the end about a castrated turkey. So, how exactly is that open season on Coker?
I wasn't singleing you out as a participant just using the word "you" in a general term. FWIW I'd venture to guess there isn't a team in the US who doesn't have a player who has done coke, smoked dope, drank, or gotten into a fight or worse. But it's much easier to point to other teams for most and a blind eye toward your on. After the Marcus ordeal I'd actually gotten to the point of disgust with the VT program. I do think that Beamer AND Fulmer are attempting to go to great lengths to recover the face of their programs.
I understood the "you" reference. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] What I didn't understand was your reasoning of that VT thead that made you mention Coker. No UT fans were in on the "VT bashing".
What is it about Sunday nights that makes you want to fight me? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]