so with the game starting in about an hour whats your predictions?
personally i dont think we have a chance without Lawson. Q is a decent guard but he sure aint ty lawson.
i see duke winning by 10, 94-84 but i sure hope i am wrong haha
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so with the game starting in about an hour whats your predictions?
personally i dont think we have a chance without Lawson. Q is a decent guard but he sure aint ty lawson.
i see duke winning by 10, 94-84 but i sure hope i am wrong haha
Damnit, damn it damn it....I waited two months to hear Dickie V.....I get ESPN blocked out and I get Billy Packer on the local channels.. Packer sucks!
CBS is carrying it here in NC so ESPN is blacked out also . Raycom is doing the game but their announcers sound has yet to come on so it's just watching w/ no play by play .
Damn I had forgotten how much I hate Vitale.
I had to have my mouth washed out with soap
I notice that you call him that on here and not to his face. I guess that is why you are not silent huh? Brave man.....and smart! He would drop you like a bad habit.
Duke cannot stop Tyler in the paint.. he just flexed between two guys who tried to hold him down...and one..He is a man in the paint!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotSoSilentBob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Hansbrough gets away with more [censored] than I've ever seen in college basketball.</div></div>
He's still better than anything you all have on your team. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
No Lawson, Thomas not producing, Ellington not producing, Ginyard and Green not producing....Im starting to wonder how in the [censored] we are remotely competing in this game. Not to mention we already have over 17 turnovers. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img]
Gotta give Duke credit though. They are spreading the offense and nailing their 3's. Looks like the Heels cannot defend worth a [censored] tonight, especially off the screens.
I have not seen Duke run much zone. Duke does seem to have better playmakers.. Good game so far!
Tonight is the prime example of why we live and die by Lawson. He is more valuable to us than Hansbrough.
Carolina cannot match up with them man to man from what I see..penetration and dish!
Tyler is getting tired...having to do too much and constantly being double and tripled team!
He is all we have tonight. Duke's threes are absolutely killing us.
ginyard is playing ok... green and ellington are struggling....
ty lawson is what makes this team work. Q is ok but lawson is on a different level. he sees things Q dont. i cant wait to see them play at the end of the season with hopefully healthy teams.
Congrats DUKE!!!
What a game! I wish Ty lawson would've played but I'm glad the boys in true blue came away with the W!!!
1 up on UNC, everything is right in the world!
I heard Coach K on the sideline microphone tell his players w/ just a few seconds left " No celebrating , just walk off the court "
For such a rivalry game that was a class move .
Congrats DUKE!!!
What a game! I wish Ty lawson would've played but I'm glad the boys in true blue came away with the W!!!
1 up on UNC, everything is right in the world!
Coach K had downplayed the rivalry all week, stating that the rivalry for Duke was championships, not UNC.
This puts Duke up 2 in the ACC. Patrick and Vitale made a good comment last night. It appears that whomever wins the ACC will have the first 4 rounds of the NCAA tourney in their backyard, traveling to Raleigh and Charlotte for the first 2 and sweet 16 rounds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This puts Duke up 2 in the ACC. Patrick and Vitale made a good comment last night. It appears that whomever wins the ACC will have the first 4 rounds of the NCAA tourney in their backyard, traveling to Raleigh and Charlotte for the first 2 and sweet 16 rounds. </div></div>
As long as we don't lose anymore ACC games DUKE will win the regular season outright even if they do lose to unc in the last game.
Awesome game!
Regardless of how much some people may personally dislike Duke, you can't deny that they are playing good basketball.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
As long as we don't lose anymore ACC games DUKE will win the regular season outright even if they do lose to unc in the last game. </div></div>
The regular season ACC title wont get Duke or anyone a #1 seed, IMO. IF we meet in the ACC tournament title game, then the winner of that will be a #1 seed.
Congrats to Duke...they were the better team last night.
True. If that does happen you have a good argument for 2 number ones out of the ACC, then the Charlotte regional would go to the winner of the tourny game since that one would have 2 wins against the other. If by some chance neither makes the ACCCG then Duke would get the #1 with the regular season title.
Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slobber Knocker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I notice that you call him that on here and not to his face. I guess that is why you are not silent huh? Brave man.....and smart! He would drop you like a bad habit. </div></div>
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If I run into the big P down at the Frosty Bossie in the next week, I'll tell him exactly what he is.
As I said before, Hans[censored] gets away with more crap than anyone in college basketball. Perhaps the most protected player I've ever seen. If you foul him hard, expect to either be ejected or suspended.
Putting this out there now, if Duke and UNC play for the ACC Title and any of you all want to go pm me before the tournament and I'll give you my cell. I'll gladly sell you my ticket before I sit through that mess again. One Duke/UNC game is enough in my lifetime. There are only two games left on Duke could possibly lose in my opinion and they both are at Cameron. I wouldn't be shocked to see Duke at 16-0 rolling into Charlotte.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
What they don't seem to realize is that with Lawson in you are taking away the 26 points that his 2 replacements scored. So he gets his average or better and they still lose. And Zoubek didn't play at all and King only played 2 minutes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
I guarentee UNC wins the next game against duke
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
I guarentee UNC wins the next game against duke</div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
What they don't seem to realize is that with Lawson in you are taking away the 26 points that his 2 replacements scored. So he gets his average or better and they still lose. And Zoubek didn't play at all and King only played 2 minutes. </div></div>
What about all the points Lawson creates for everyone else?? He's the one who runs the fast break offense. Fastest player in the nation, end to end. Being without him hurt more than just the points he would have scored.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
I guarentee UNC wins the next game against duke </div></div>
UNC fans got their own little Terrell Owens....haha
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PioneerBlue</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CoeburnCane</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raider13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Duke play pretty good game, their shot was def on last night...they didnt really have an answer for Physco T but Im gonna go ahead and say that when them meet again at Duke and we have Lawson, UNC takes that game by atleast 10</div></div>
Lawson's good, but he ain't worth 21 points. Think before you type out a prediction like that. Plus, with the way Duke's defending on the ball this year w/Paulus uninjured and Nolan Smith locking guys down...Lawson would still be effective, just not as much as he has been against Duke say last year. </div></div>
What they don't seem to realize is that with Lawson in you are taking away the 26 points that his 2 replacements scored. So he gets his average or better and they still lose. And Zoubek didn't play at all and King only played 2 minutes. </div></div>
What about all the points Lawson creates for everyone else?? He's the one who runs the fast break offense. Fastest player in the nation, end to end. Being without him hurt more than just the points he would have scored.</div></div>
He may have made 12 points difference, beating Duke in a close game--but I don't believe he makes 20-25 points difference, meaning UNC would win by 9-14 points based off of last night's final margin of Duke +11.
Also--as I said and I continue to believe--Duke's playing better on-the-ball D than they have since their last title run back in '01, and that's saying a lot. Everyone on the team can play capable D. They're smarter defensively as a team than they have been in the past 5 years.
That being the case, I feel that Lawson playing last night would have made the game close, but I don't feel his presence would have caused UNC to win by double-digits...I just don't. He's an excellent player and I wish Duke had him, but in this matchup and the way Duke's been playing D this whole season--I don't see it happening.
if ellington could hit the broad side of a barn it wouldabeen closer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotSoSilentBob</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slobber Knocker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I notice that you call him that on here and not to his face. I guess that is why you are not silent huh? Brave man.....and smart! He would drop you like a bad habit. </div></div>
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If I run into the big P down at the Frosty Bossie in the next week, I'll tell him exactly what he is.
As I said before, Hans[censored] gets away with more crap than anyone in college basketball. Perhaps the most protected player I've ever seen. If you foul him hard, expect to either be ejected or suspended. </div></div>
Hansbrough is one of the best defenders in the NCAA, I dont see him getting away with anymore than Hibbert....and most protected, the guy has had like 2 concussions and had his nose broke last year against Duke(cheat shot)..but he IMO the toughest player in the NCAA
Hansbrough walks everytime he touches the ball, to say otherwise is to be just a complete homer.
I've said it several times and I'll state it again in this thread--the only difference between Tyler Hansbrough and Andrew DeClerq ("who?" you say? go look him up)...is the hype Hansbrough gets by playing at UNC. He'll be nothing more than an overrated version of DeClerq in the NBA.
The only reason Tyler may not make a HUGE impact in the NBA is because he is not as athlete as other men there. Anyone who knows basketball can see that TH is extremely fundamentally sound. I don't see him walking with the ball every time he touches it.
It's hard for me to watch the NBA. They tend to leave out my favorite part of basketball...defense. College ball is where it's at.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dr_coach</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's hard for me to watch the NBA. They tend to leave out my favorite part of basketball...defense. College ball is where it's at.</div></div>
Co-sign on that--I'll watch a crappy college matchup and enjoy it more than a marquee NBA matchup. But it burns up most UNC fans to think that a kid they've put up to deity status during his time at Chapel Hill won't dominate in the NBA...and Hansbrough just won't. I'll modernize my comparison a little bit from DeClerq to Brad Miller/Nick Collison. It's about the same difference.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't see him walking with the ball every time he touches it.
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You don't see him in the paint doing a jig while he head fakes 4 times and then goes up for the shot. And he moves his pivot foot everytime he starts to dribble before he actually does dribble.
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Heres a good one he goes from 10' behind the line to the goal and the ball hits the floor once, and he take 3 studder steps befoer that one bounce, must be a slam dunk competition. And they go crazy dinking on IONA up by 34. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]
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