This is sick if it's true.
Clemens has affair with 15 year old.
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This is sick if it's true.
Clemens has affair with 15 year old.
Someone is corn-fused. I don't recall Rose screwing kids.
I'm talking about overall scum bag level. No, Rose never had problems with kids but outside the game of baseball he had many problems.
Other than betting on his team to win? This guy used to come to the local little league clinics. He spoke at a Dryden ahtletic banquet(150 students 9-12, you KNOW we swelled his bank account), he was a real big deal [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]- you must have someone else in mind.
trust me spuds, if pvfan is attacking ANY red, its gotta be serious
mindy mccready? rocket cant do better than a 15 yr old mediocre country singer?
his wife is hotter IMO
MMMM... I lived in Dayton till I was 12, followed the Big Red Machine till got down here and couldn't find them. WSWV in Pennington carried the games for a few years, got back into it a little, he is on the wrong guy. Reading books. The guy, Rose, came to the kid's camps in Cincy and Dayton. We are talking his whole career for me, history for someone else. Naw, I don't think you will sway me on this. Rose and Bench sold cars in the off-season cause they didn't make that much money...just like regular guys. That is what makes the oldtimes special, if Bench, Rose , Aaron- that group had been able to train all year? Rose got MVP one year, asked for more money- 100 grand to 107- Marge wouldn't go for it. Think about it, Nat. MVP, 7 grand, club wouldn't produce, but he didn't sell out on the town. This is what makes me sick about pro sports today. They wouldn't make a scratch on the old guys, community wise. I'd rather see the kids play at the high school level. They play for pride, that used to mean something in the pros ,too- but today's group are like the president, gimmie money!
but, to comprise the integrity of the game, isnt that worse than wanting fifty million dollars?
Jordan gambles, the casinos in the Smokies are up and running? You got the wrong guy. Games are made to be wagered on, if that is what you want. Somebody said they made some cash from on-line poker, do you recall who? Rose didn't throw games.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Biggin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trust me spuds, if pvfan is attacking ANY red, its gotta be serious
mindy mccready? rocket cant do better than a 15 yr old mediocre country singer?
his wife is hotter IMO </div></div>
But she ain't 15, neuter him!
I've also heard stories about how at those Little League Clinics every word was a four letter word as well. I love Pete's baseball career and reading about his life. He's my favorite Red ever, but Pete Rose was no saint.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jordan gambles, the casinos in the Smokies are up and running? You got the wrong guy. Games are made to be wagered on, if that is what you want. Somebody said they made some cash from on-line poker, do you recall who? Rose didn't throw games. </div></div>
I think there is a huge difference between gambling at a casino, online, etc than your own baseball team as a manager. It's the 8th inning tied up and Pete has money on the game. He can bring in his closer to pitch two innings today but lose him for the next two games, what does he do? He has money on the game and brings him in, and says the hell with the next two games. To say he didn't change the outcomes of games is nuts.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've also heard stories about how at those Little League Clinics every word was a four letter word as well. I love Pete's baseball career and reading about his life. He's my favorite Red ever, but Pete Rose was no saint. </div></div> I was there, I never heard any. Are you a saint? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is sick if it's true.
Clemens has affair with 15 year old. </div></div>
Crimes against children are a whole other level than gambling on major league baseball. Rose's name shouldn't even be mentioned in comparison to this.
I'm not a saint nor do I claim to be. Rose is guilty of a lot of things, tax fraud, gambling on a game he was involved, cheating on his wifes, and many more things. Agreed that none of these compare to crimes against kids. The point I was trying to make is that both are big baseball stars who will probably never be in the hall of fame for crimes they have committed. Roses with gambling and taxes and Clemons with steroids and now this.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jordan gambles, the casinos in the Smokies are up and running? You got the wrong guy. Games are made to be wagered on, if that is what you want. Somebody said they made some cash from on-line poker, do you recall who? Rose didn't throw games. </div></div>
I think there is a huge difference between gambling at a casino, online, etc than your own baseball team as a manager. It's the 8th inning tied up and Pete has money on the game. He can bring in his closer to pitch two innings today but lose him for the next two games, what does he do? He has money on the game and brings him in, and says the hell with the next two games. To say he didn't change the outcomes of games is nuts. </div></div>
Try again, that is the problem the real oldtime Red's fans have with this. Rose only bet on his teams to WIN, Forget it, I met him, his life was in the Dayton Daily News every day, everyone in town felt like they knew him. How close have you ever been to him? PS Jordan bet on his golf games at the course, but you wouldn't know that would you? Today's sports suck- but the old guys from Cincy- you ain't got a chance, be good and I'll show you my G Foster MVP Auto ball from 78.
I agree that he only bet on his teams to win but he directly affected the outcomes of other games by how he handled his roster in those games. He comes to the park and knows that the star player for LA is not playing that day he loads up his lineup and bets on the game. Gambling on golf does not compare to betting on MLB Baseball (if your the manager). I have autographed memorabilia from George Foster as well, sat down and talked with the man at a Reds game a few summers ago. As for the Reds, I'll gladly wager that I have forgotten more than you'll ever know about them from any era. Please stop embarrassing yourself.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jordan gambles, the casinos in the Smokies are up and running? You got the wrong guy. Games are made to be wagered on, if that is what you want. Somebody said they made some cash from on-line poker, do you recall who? Rose didn't throw games. </div></div>
games arent made to be wagered on
if they were sports betting would be legal all over the country and not just in vegas........and there wouldnt have been a bill passed to try and eliminate online sports gambling in this country
secondly it doesnt matter if he threw any games or not.......when you have somebody who is betting on a game they are directly involved in........it compromises the integrity of the game
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">. As for the Reds, I'll gladly wager that I have forgotten more than you'll ever know about them from any era. Please stop embarrassing yourself. </div></div>
Whats there to know? Its the Reds. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree that he only bet on his teams to win but he directly affected the outcomes of other games by how he handled his roster in those games. He comes to the park and knows that the star player for LA is not playing that day he loads up his lineup and bets on the game. Gambling on golf does not compare to betting on MLB Baseball (if your the manager). I have autographed memorabilia from George Foster as well, sat down and talked with the man at a Reds game a few summers ago. As for the Reds, I'll gladly wager that I have forgotten more than you'll ever know about them from any era. Please stop embarrassing yourself. </div></div>
Me? Your thing with the teenage girl should leave you RED for years. Don't worry about me , boy. I didn't like Sparky- Bristol built the Big Red Machine. I never liked Marge (Racist) But when you can tell you me you heard the games from the Bristol era-he built the Big Red Machine- then we might talk. But, like I said, unless you are 50, you CAN"T remember the good years, can you? You might have read about them- but I ,I lived them. No, I didn't memorize them. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
Here's my take on it...everyone wants to call her a child when 40 years ago she would already be married with a kid at 15. I'm not saying it's right, but sometimes the blame doesn't fall in just one place. And one more thing...I love Pete Rose and I don't care what he did. He's famous for his playing skills, not his life skills.
Are you taking up for pedophiles?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's my take on it...everyone wants to call her a child when 40 years ago she would already be married with a kid at 15. I'm not saying it's right, but sometimes the blame doesn't fall in just one place. And one more thing...I love Pete Rose and I don't care what he did. He's famous for his playing skills, not his life skills. </div></div>
actually id say hes also pretty famous for his life skills too
if you ask many kids today who werent alive when he was playing......they wont know what kind of player he was......but they will know that hes not in the HOF because hes banned from baseball for gambling when he was managing
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jordan gambles, the casinos in the Smokies are up and running? You got the wrong guy. Games are made to be wagered on, if that is what you want. Somebody said they made some cash from on-line poker, do you recall who? Rose didn't throw games. </div></div>
games arent made to be wagered on
if they were sports betting would be legal all over the country and not just in vegas........and there wouldnt have been a bill passed to try and eliminate online sports gambling in this country
secondly it doesnt matter if he threw any games or not.......when you have somebody who is betting on a game they are directly involved in........it compromises the integrity of the game </div></div>
Sorta like the loan industry...biblical money changers?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's my take on it...everyone wants to call her a child when 40 years ago she would already be married with a kid at 15. I'm not saying it's right, but sometimes the blame doesn't fall in just one place. And one more thing...I love Pete Rose and I don't care what he did. He's famous for his playing skills, not his life skills. </div></div>
actually id say hes also pretty famous for his life skills too
if you ask many kids today who werent alive when he was playing......they wont know what kind of player he was......but they will know that hes not in the HOF because hes banned from baseball for gambling when he was managing </div></div>
Ask most kids that are not in YOUR family and they will tell you about what he did in baseball. To ban him from the hall of fame is just a comment on how shitty life is- "I'm gonna make my living, loaning you my daddy's money."
It is about time for a couple of new of killings and a revolution- taxition without ... [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] American History 101=- .50 cal
No I'm not...I am saying something about the way things have changed within 1/2 of an average person's lifespan tho. My great grandmother was 12 when she left the reservation to marry my great grandfather...my grandmother was married at 15..my other grandmother married at 14...my mom married at 17...get the point now smarta$$ ?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No I'm not...I am saying something about the way things have changed within 1/2 of an average person's lifespan tho. My great grandmother was 12 when she left the reservation to marry my great grandfather...my grandmother was married at 15..my other grandmother married at 14...my mom married at 17...get the point now smarta$$ ? </div></div>
They will never understand why we say "when". [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
LOL!!!!!! Someone touched a nerve.
I know what you were saying but we all know it's not right to do what he is accused of doing.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Monkeyhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL!!!!!! Someone touched a nerve.
I know what you were saying but we all know it's not right to do what he is accused of doing. </div></div>
The kids today get to piss around about 5 years the rest of were expected to work, get the point. Life was shorter, started sooner. If you wanted in- get a job. This generation might have missed that.
My thoughts exactly.
15 is pedophilia?
In 5 more years or so, 25 will be as well...lol
They will be changing pampers in middle school if "no child left behind" doesn't get tossed. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]
Might as well...they already wipe their arses..lol
Used to bust their butts- now it is their parents that can be the problem. Saw a study about how many grandparents are raising kids. Not watching them till someone gets home from college or work, but raising. Wonder what will happen next generation? More medication?
I think that is a product of a society where one paycheck can't meet the needs of a family. It'll only get worse.
But Bush says the country is healthy...?
On a serious note teachers are not babysitters and shouldn't be asked to deal with kids that won't try to learn. The staff isn't large enough, the money isn't there and the rest of us don't care to pay for a kid that just don't care, at least once they reach an accountable age.
Mindy "cannot refute" anything.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseba...nfirms_aff.html
She used to be hot before she was a crackhead lol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PioneerBlue</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She used to be hot before she was a crackhead lol </div></div>
Amen brother...
Don't get me wrong the Rocket is a piece of trash nowdays....
but if he was cuttin that about 10 years ago...congrats to him...hahaha (after she was 18 of course)
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I wonder if this makes my hat signed by him worth more?