About the Norton fans

I cut you guys some slack when some of you elected to boo during Clintwood's player introductions -- after all, there are always a few in every crowd.

What really got to me, though, was when, during the 3rd quarter, with the score 21-13, y'all just started leaving. I even saw cheerleaders leaving the field. I know it was a wet, nasty night, but you knew the weather forecast. I was there from 4:30 today -- I don't think any of you were wetter than I was.

Every one of you who got up and left while your boys were still busting their butts on that field should be ashamed of yourselves. What kind of message did you send to your team? "We love you when you win, but if you're behind, well, we're not gonna sit in the rain to watch you lose?"

I've had the good fortune to meet a couple of your players, and they seem to be fine young men. IMO, they deserve a whole heck of a lot better than they got from their own fans tonight.

So, to those of you who decided to withdraw your support from a group of kids who NEEDED your support by bailing on them because they were behind -- your behavior was disgraceful, and inexcusable. Shame on you. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

Fans leave all the time in the 3rd and 4th quarter before the game is over. Nobody wants to be stuck in a terrible traffic jam, especially not tonight.

probably was some of the same ones that was just a couple of weeks ago calling CW over-rated after the loss to gc

I was not at the game, but I listened to it on the radio, and I can tell you something that ticked me off at some Norton fans. They had a player down on the field, Coleman, I believe. And I could here fans saying crap to the refs, calling them idiots etc. I'm sorry, but when a player is down, you behave yourself, and if it's one of your own, that is even more of a reason to keep your mouth shut. I know that no one likes to lose, but that kind of behavior is inexcusable.

No I stayed till the end and I was just running off the mouth when I said that, who didn't know CW had a good team. Congrats to both teams. Region D championship game may be one of lpd's top 5 game.

I heard that as well...a lil profanity mixed in to boot...ahhh..those classy Raider fans...

There were also some of us who stayed in that weather, even when we were down by 14 with 5 minutes to go and right after a turnover.

Clintwood had an amazing crowd tonight, but I was pretty sickened when Talley was down and heard some woman from the CWood side scream "Just get him off the field!" to what was originally thought to be a potentially season ending injury.

I think some of that reaction came because when Coleman was down on the Clitwood's side, they refs made them get back on the field and into their huddle as if they weren't even going to take the time to let Coleman get off the field and that is what set some of the fans off. Not saying it was right but that is what sparked the reaction.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sportsfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was not at the game, but I listened to it on the radio, and I can tell you something that ticked me off at some Norton fans. They had a player down on the field, Coleman, I believe. And I could here fans saying crap to the refs, calling them idiots etc. I'm sorry, but when a player is down, you behave yourself, and if it's one of your own, that is even more of a reason to keep your mouth shut. I know that no one likes to lose, but that kind of behavior is inexcusable. </div></div>

typical norton fans......they have no class.

Yea, that was rude, but it was on both sides.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fans leave all the time in the 3rd and 4th quarter before the game is over. Nobody wants to be stuck in a terrible traffic jam, especially not tonight. </div></div>

So, you're saying those same people would have left if Norton had been winning, just to avoid a little traffic? I don't buy that. Sure, a few people meander on out -- but 1/2 to 2/3 of the fans? I don't think so.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard that as well...a lil profanity mixed in to boot...ahhh..those classy Raider fans... </div></div>

I was sitting down below a Clintwood fan who repeatedly yelled obscenities out to the refs and continued to do so when Coleman was injured down near the endzone. I don't think you can classify one group of people when there are clearly fools on both sides.

If anyone thinks I'm making it up just to balance things out, I captured the footage and you can hear the loud-mouth on almost every play, shouting out something new or repeating the same thing over and over again, with the most annoying voice you've ever heard in your life. He sounded like the Cajun guy from The Waterboy, if that's any indication as to just how bad it was. He was located at the very top of the bleachers at the 35-40 yard line closest to the hillside.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stoney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sportsfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was not at the game, but I listened to it on the radio, and I can tell you something that ticked me off at some Norton fans. They had a player down on the field, Coleman, I believe. And I could here fans saying crap to the refs, calling them idiots etc. I'm sorry, but when a player is down, you behave yourself, and if it's one of your own, that is even more of a reason to keep your mouth shut. I know that no one likes to lose, but that kind of behavior is inexcusable. </div></div>

typical norton fans......they have no class.</div></div>



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skywalker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea, that was rude, but it was on both sides.</div></div>


Yeah it was on both sides, but everyone knows that a team is not supposed to go to the sideline during and injury time out and discuss stuff that is what team timeouts are for coach adams knows that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: UTVols2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think some of that reaction came because when Coleman was down on the Clitwood's side, they refs made them get back on the field and into their huddle as if they weren't even going to take the time to let Coleman get off the field and that is what set some of the fans off. Not saying it was right but that is what sparked the reaction. </div></div>
During an injury time out, the coach isn't supposed to have his team come to the sidelines to be coached up...so the refs did the right thing.

Everyone has some bad fans. I know when we played norton i got a little out of line a few times. Sometimes u just get a little to in the game.You just have to overlook the bad fans. I too was disappointed with the amount of norton fans that left as well. There are always a few that leave but when i looked over with about 5 mins to go about 2/3 of their fans had left.

Like I said, we all have a few fans we're not particularly proud of. I think know the guy you're talking about, although he's usually over on the fence line near the endzone. It's unfortunate when fans act that way, but I think in Clintwood folks like that are the exception, not the rule.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard that as well...a lil profanity mixed in to boot...ahhh..those classy Raider fans... </div></div>

I was sitting down below a Clintwood fan who repeatedly yelled obscenities out to the refs and continued to do so when Coleman was injured down near the endzone. I don't think you can classify one group of people when there are clearly fools on both sides.

If anyone thinks I'm making it up just to balance things out, I captured the footage and you can hear the loud-mouth on almost every play, shouting out something new or repeating the same thing over and over again, with the most annoying voice you've ever heard in your life. He sounded like the Cajun guy from The Waterboy, if that's any indication as to just how bad it was. He was located at the very top of the bleachers at the 35-40 yard line closest to the hillside. </div></div>I never said both sides didn't have bad fans...just commenting on what was clearly audible over the radio...and the announcer clearly pointed out whose fans were heard.

A third of the Wave fans that go to the game couldn't tell you what the final score was. A social activity nowadays.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard that as well...a lil profanity mixed in to boot...ahhh..those classy Raider fans... </div></div>

I was sitting down below a Clintwood fan who repeatedly yelled obscenities out to the refs and continued to do so when Coleman was injured down near the endzone. I don't think you can classify one group of people when there are clearly fools on both sides.

If anyone thinks I'm making it up just to balance things out, I captured the footage and you can hear the loud-mouth on almost every play, shouting out something new or repeating the same thing over and over again, with the most annoying voice you've ever heard in your life. He sounded like the Cajun guy from The Waterboy, if that's any indication as to just how bad it was. He was located at the very top of the bleachers at the 35-40 yard line closest to the hillside. </div></div>

Is that the one they call burrhead?

Yea thats why i try to not sit near any students anymore. I got tired of hearing about their problems when im trying to watch the game.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stoney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard that as well...a lil profanity mixed in to boot...ahhh..those classy Raider fans... </div></div>

I was sitting down below a Clintwood fan who repeatedly yelled obscenities out to the refs and continued to do so when Coleman was injured down near the endzone. I don't think you can classify one group of people when there are clearly fools on both sides.

If anyone thinks I'm making it up just to balance things out, I captured the footage and you can hear the loud-mouth on almost every play, shouting out something new or repeating the same thing over and over again, with the most annoying voice you've ever heard in your life. He sounded like the Cajun guy from The Waterboy, if that's any indication as to just how bad it was. He was located at the very top of the bleachers at the 35-40 yard line closest to the hillside. </div></div>

Is that the one they call burrhead? </div></div>

I don't know what his name was, nor do I care. All I know is that he was a jackass and everyone around me was wanting him to shut up, too. When I upload the video, you'll be able to hear him clearly. You'd have to be deaf not to notice.

I listened to the radio and it sounded like I heard Burton fans yelling at the refs during the injury. I'd be embarrassed. I get very embarrassed if PV fans do that.

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I don't know what his name was, nor do I care. All I know is that he was a jackass and everyone around me was wanting him to shut up, too. When I upload the video, you'll be able to hear him clearly. You'd have to be deaf not to notice. [/quote]
Pass Man I think you are exaggerating just a little. I was sitting in the same area as you (actually right beside you I think) and I did not hear any profanity. Just the guy yelling that the refs were horrible. Maybe I missed something.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LBU</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pass Man I think you are exaggerating just a little. I was sitting in the same area as you (actually right beside you I think) and I did not hear any profanity. Just the guy yelling that the refs were horrible. Maybe I missed something. </div></div>

I didn't hear any foul language in particular, just constant shouting and griping and yelling for the entire duration of the game - mostly targeted at the refs. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

Yeah, he does it every game.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stoney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sportsfan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was not at the game, but I listened to it on the radio, and I can tell you something that ticked me off at some Norton fans. They had a player down on the field, Coleman, I believe. And I could here fans saying crap to the refs, calling them idiots etc. I'm sorry, but when a player is down, you behave yourself, and if it's one of your own, that is even more of a reason to keep your mouth shut. I know that no one likes to lose, but that kind of behavior is inexcusable. </div></div>

typical norton fans......they have no class. </div></div>

I was sitting very close to a couple of our(Raider's) "obnoxious" fans, but there was just as many on the Clintwood side. I do not think that all Raider fans should be classified in one group. I was sitting very near a couple of guys, one a grown man and one a highschool student who was yelling at the refs during the injury timeout, and I think it was out of line, but we all should not be classifeid as " the typical raider fan... no class".There is some very classy supportive fans for our team. There was a few greenwave fans yelling very rude comments and remarks during the time that Coleman was down hurt and then again when Talley was hurt. We <u>ALL</u> have those fans. Like said earlier you just have to ignore those.
I am a Raider fan and I stay from beginnning to end no matter what the weather or outcome of the game, as do a lot more fans. I will support the Raiders win or lose, as do a lot more of our fans. <span style="color: #FF6600">I did yell, scream, and cheer for the raiders the entire night.</span> I think fans should cheer for their team and show them their support. I do get embarrased at times at the way some of the grown men act, but every team has those type of fans.

I was also disappointed in the number of fans leaving from Burton's side. It was a very miserable night with the rain and wind, but a true fan stays through thick and thin until the very end. It just shows the boys that we support them no matter what the end score.

I stayed.

I think that the rain had a bit to do with the anger over Talley's injury, considering I think we've had to pull out a gun and shoot a player before to get them off the field as quick as possible on a cramp, and it seemed like that went on forever.

If when Coleman was injured, Norton hadn't pulled their team to the side, and then when Clintwood finally got the refs to get them back out there, I thought I was watching a slow motion instant replay (with all Nortons speed, they sure left that sideline slowly *lol*). That being said, thats not really Nortons fault for taking advantage of it, as much as it was the official on that side for not stepping in at first. I think it was a snowball at that point (and you gotta give Clintwood a little rope, for years we've seen Haysi be in a situation where they needed a blow and a Haysi player having the worlds worst cramp for 10 minutes, go off the field and come back in the next play and look faster than they ever had).

I think most of the fans from both sides respect the other and their teams, so i'm not gonna judge Burton by the idiots booing during warmups, don't judge Clintwood by a couple who yell at refs the whole games.

did you really expect any better from their fans ahMT ?

Agreed ROcketer. I just can't stand reading the rude posts about the "classless" raider fans. I often wonder while reading the forum post that if the JIB raiders closed down their school, then who would most on here "bad mouth and rag" on? There are some rude, classless and obnoxious fans for the Raiders, I will be the first one to say so, but Raider fans are just like any other schools fans, you have the good , the bad and the "idiots". I have some wonderful friends from Clintwood who support their team with much class and respect and I DO NOT judge the entire fanbase by a few "obnoxious" fans and would just appreciate the same respect for us Raider fans.

And I will also add that I witnessed some wonderful sportsmanship on the field tonight from both teams. I thought both teams were respectful of each other and I noticed a lot from both teams of helping the opposing teams player up etc...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PassMan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LBU</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pass Man I think you are exaggerating just a little. I was sitting in the same area as you (actually right beside you I think) and I did not hear any profanity. Just the guy yelling that the refs were horrible. Maybe I missed something. </div></div>

I didn't hear any foul language in particular, just constant shouting and griping and yelling for the entire duration of the game - mostly targeted at the refs. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] </div></div>


Sit next to Chris Kelly for a whole game.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mik_Mo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


Sit next to Chris Kelly for a whole game. </div></div>

Or...take him to a wrestling match and get him drunk.

Ol 'boy sure makes it rough on ya at the UVA-W games doing the Gator slap and yelling 'Go Omar/bring the pain!!!!" every other snap [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

Gotta give him credit though-he's at every home game

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I think that the rain had a bit to do with the anger over Talley's injury, considering I think we've had to pull out a gun and shoot a player before to get them off the field as quick as possible on a cramp, and it seemed like that went on forever.
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We all pretty much decided JIB was trying to work the cramps out on the field so he would only have to miss a play or two. Taking him off and working the cramps out on the sideline would have required him missing a series or two. Pretty smart on JIB's part.

You all need to lightin up, it's football and people are passionate about it. You should be thankful that your programs matter enough for people to boo, and root against.

Oh I agree with the smartness of the Burton staff for working it out on the field, but just saying that a lot of the times, and I don't know if its a should happen or shouldn't happen, an official will come over and say ok lets get the game on with when they realize its not a neck/back injury.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milk3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">did you really expect any better from their fans ahMT ? </div></div>

Well, yeah, actually I did. Obnoxious fans who yell inappropriate things I can for the most part ignore. We all have them. I actually thought the booing during pregame introductions was kinda funny in a sad sort of way. I did not, however, expect more than half the fans to start leaving when Clintwood only had an 8-point lead.

I guess my way of thinking was that Clintwood has shown Norton practically too much respect with the multiple tributes done to the memory of Harris, and that some of the players being booed were players who knew him, liked him and actually wanted to respect him previously. So it was more disrespectful than it would normally be, if that makes sense?

Probably at least half of the fans at the Lee/GC game left (mostly Lee's) after halftime too, and it was a one score game. At least fans were there at the game, because there was hardly any where we were and very few by the end of the game, fewest I've seen actually. Think I've seen more with it 20 and snowing,lol...first time I've hear complete silence at times aside from the pads popping.

I was pissed at a lot of the fans for doing that. What 6 minutes left only down a score and youre gonna head out. Hell anything could have happened.I didnt like in particular some of the CW yelling "Get him off the field!" when Talley was down. But it was a few out of all of them and the other 99 1/2% were definitely respectful.