alan keyes files suit to obtain the clowns proof of citizenship

http://www.chipleypaper.com/news/pre...oof_obama.html

Keyes sues to obtain Obama citizenship proof
November 14, 2008 - 11:23PM
Presidential candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders sue in CA court to obtain Obama citizenship proof, stop Secretary of State from certifying Electors

Presidential candidate Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a "natural born"? citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama's California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.

In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, "I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."?

Former Reagan administration official Ambassador Alan Keyes and Wiley S. Drake were the 2008 presidential and vice-presidential nominees of the American Independent Party, which is the California affiliate of the new national America's Independent Party.

Mission Viejo, California attorney Dr. Orly Taitz and United Justice Foundation Executive Director Gary Kreep are representing the plaintiffs in this case.

Copies of the court filing, along with further information concerning developments in this case, will be made available at http://www.AIPNEWS.com, or can be obtained by contacting AIP national chairman Tom Hoefling

Still BS.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still BS.</div></div>
clearly its not

this is the 3rd or 4th lawsuit over this already

if its BS he should show it......the fact that nobody has seen it tells me it might not be BS

Which part if this do you not understand, BooHoo? You can file a seperate claim in all 50 states, and they will have to be processed. The election is over. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] Really, this election was over 2 years ago, anybody could have run, and America would have still voted for a change of parties.

the election isnt over until mid dec when the electoral votes are officially cast and certified

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still BS.</div></div>
clearly its not

this is the 3rd or 4th lawsuit over this already

if its BS he should show it......the fact that nobody has seen it tells me it might not be BS </div></div>
Look it up- the stuff has already been filed. I'd look it up for you AGAIN, but you'd still ignore this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the election isnt over until mid dec when the electoral votes are officially cast and certified

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They have a sale on crying towels at one of the local stores, you want to order a few?

you have no idea what you are talking about

Key Electoral College Dates and Events

View all the 2008 Presidential Election Key Dates

November 4, 2008 - General Election:
The voters in each State choose electors to serve in the Electoral College. As soon as election results are final, the States prepare seven original "Certificates of Ascertainment" of the electors chosen, and send one original along with two certified copies to the Archivist of the United States at the Office of the Federal Register.


December 15, 2008 - Meeting of Electors:
The electors in each State meet to select the President and Vice President of the United States. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining original "Certificates of Ascertainment." The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the Federal and State officials listed in these instructions.


December 24, 2008 - Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes:
The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.


January 6, 2009 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress:
The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).

http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...ies.html#dates

Travis Tritt.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still BS.</div></div>
clearly its not

this is the 3rd or 4th lawsuit over this already

if its BS he should show it......the fact that nobody has seen it tells me it might not be BS </div></div>

Its been shown a hundred times, you just cant accept it. Why didnt Mccain file a suit when he was getting his ass beat throughout the election?

been shown to who?

when?

show me proof of that because all i see if news telling me that nobody has seen it yet

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Still BS.</div></div>
clearly its not

this is the 3rd or 4th lawsuit over this already

if its BS he should show it......the fact that nobody has seen it tells me it might not be BS </div></div>

Its been shown a hundred times, you just cant accept it. Why didnt Mccain file a suit when he was getting his ass beat throughout the election? </div></div>
He was waiting for his advisor to file it for him? Since he doesn't want to appear this stupid, and the info is easy enough to find , if you want to look?

since its so easy to find.......and i cant.......find it and show me

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">been shown to who?

when?

show me proof of that because all i see if news telling me that nobody has seen it yet </div></div>
All I see is that you can't/won't face facts.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since its so easy to find.......and i cant.......find it and show me </div></div>
You smart boy, use a search. Nevermind, I'll get it for you again.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since its so easy to find.......and i cant.......find it and show me </div></div>
You smart boy, use a search. Nevermind, I'll get it for you again. </div></div>
please do

find me a copy of his birth certificate or other such citizenship records

The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii's Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.

Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."

Fukino said she has "personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would .....
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.

In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

You ever put this much effort into your job?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since its so easy to find.......and i cant.......find it and show me </div></div>
You smart boy, use a search. Nevermind, I'll get it for you again. </div></div>
please do

find me a copy of his birth certificate or other such citizenship records </div></div>
More stupid questions?

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po..._citizens.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp
^^^
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ertificate.jpg

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=79174


Get the hell over it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since its so easy to find.......and i cant.......find it and show me </div></div>
You smart boy, use a search. Nevermind, I'll get it for you again. </div></div>
please do

find me a copy of his birth certificate or other such citizenship records </div></div>

Hey, it is OK by me if you can't accept the facts. But you aren't gonna change anything, if Obama makes things worse- feel free to complain. But you have beat this horse to death-AGAIN. Get over this one issue, at least change to something fresh- [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]we are running out of challenges.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po..._citizens.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp
^^^
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ertificate.jpg

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=79174


Get the hell over it.</div></div>
i dont see a signature on any of those

any idiot can do that on a computer

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po..._citizens.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp
^^^
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ertificate.jpg

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=79174


Get the hell over it.</div></div>
i dont see a signature on any of those

any idiot can do that on a computer </div></div>
I know you think you are important, but I doubt any amount of your tears will get them to send you one personally.

Lmfao, whats that words I am looking for? Oh yeah, youre too obtuse to have an intelligent convo with. Again, I ask why didnt Mccain file a suit or bring this up any during the campaign?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: R13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po..._citizens.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp
^^^
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ertificate.jpg

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=79174


Get the hell over it.</div></div>
i dont see a signature on any of those

any idiot can do that on a computer </div></div>


The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.


Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

?by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller

There is a signature , feel better? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] I'd read it too you, but you would claim you couldn't understand what I was saying.

He's already learned a new word today. Don't overtax his brain. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

Where did you go? Come on BooHoo, nobody wants you to quit posting, just try to stay with the facts. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

looks like something i could print at home

i see no signature on any of those that he posted

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVVikeFan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He's already learned a new word today. Don't overtax his brain. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] </div></div>
I don't mind a different opinion, and I hope Obama does wonders- I'll really believe that when he produces. But I thought his ,Wahoo's style of argument went out with record players and scratched records. If I say it enough they will think it is so? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">looks like something i could print at home

i see no signature on any of those that he posted </div></div>

You can print anything at home.

And Spuds just showed you, been proven time and time again. Its over, he's #44.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">looks like something i could print at home

i see no signature on any of those that he posted </div></div>
I don't mind that you can't accept this- I just don't give a [censored]. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img] Jump on it, beat the drum. Give it a couple of months and see who goes in office. Take your medicine and relax.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlueWahooChambor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the election isnt over until mid dec when the electoral votes are officially cast and certified

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They have a sale on crying towels at one of the local stores, you want to order a few?</div></div>

What store? I havent seen any advertised.

Spuds i think your full of [censored].

Where the hell did that come from? No one replied to your last comment so you had to do it yourself?

Dude you dont know where people come from? OK Look up intercourse between humans. Not man2man the way you like it. Man 2 woman.


Im interested in the sale on crying towels. Ive looked it up Ive even called. I cant find them. So suck one r13.

Wtf are you talking about? I didnt understand one word you just posted. lmafo

Cause your a idiot? I was kinda worried you picturing a man and woman having sex would make you sick and light headed.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MikeJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spuds i think your full of [censored]. </div></div>
Shove your head up in this and look. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

You just didnt make one bit of sense.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spuds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MikeJones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Spuds i think your full of [censored]. </div></div>
Shove your head up in this and look. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]</div></div>

Wow does that come with stupid reply towels? Seriously post the link to the towels you mentioned. Im honestly interested in them.

I'll try to send you a PM on the posts that are humor. After awile, we'll let you try to do this on your own.