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this is awful
They may have just hit the over. Who cares? When at any point in the last off season did this look like a good MNF match up? Having said that, I am watching the last 39 seconds.
Last offseason this did look like a good game. The Jags were thought to be contenders, and the Texans are steadily improving.
The Jags just looked like they didn't even care, didn't wanna play. They are crap. The whole foundation they built the past few years is about to get blown up this offseason as well. There are hard times ahead. Del Rio is a good guy, and good coach but I'm afraid he'll get the axe.
Bigger disappointment - Jags or Bolts?
Jags.
I almost had them going to the big one.
I agree with you but I think we are in the minority. I've been saying for awhile that LT was bound to have a less than stellar season sooner or later. Rivers IMO stinks, and Norv Turner is terrible as HC.
SD is the bigger disappoint, they were legitimate SB contenders.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: duckmeat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree with you but I think we are in the minority. I've been saying for awhile that LT was bound to have a less than stellar season sooner or later. Rivers IMO stinks, and Norv Turner is terrible as HC.</div></div>
i agree on the LT part
just like seattle found out when alexander got hurt......you can only ride a great RB so long and you need other weapons which they dont have
rivers doesnt stink.......his WR corps does
as for norv........hes a great asst as has been proven over and over but hes an abortion as a HC
Rivers doesn't make any throws that make you stop and say "Man, not many others could do that." I might have overstepped when I said he stinks, but I don't think he is anywhere near being elite. Sortive a poor man's Hasslebeck. His WR corps got a little better by adding Chambers, but he isn't what he once was and Gates still doesn't look the same as he did before his injury.
Norv needs to get fired and go back to Dallas. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] They'll be needing a new OC soon anyway once Garrett gets upgraded.
Also forgot about Lorenzo Neal. Just remembered he isn't there anymore. How many consecutive 1000 yard backs did he block for? His absence is a huge part in LT's decline as well I think. Plus they are w/o Turner spelling him.
neal blocked for somehting like 11 straight 1k yard backs
you are also correct about not having turner
rivers doesnt have to be elite.......hes good enough but he doesnt have any elite weapons
chambers isnt even a real #1 at this point in his career
chambers is as close to a #1 at this point as issac bruce is
get rivers a guy like boldin, colston, ward or even welker and move chambers to #2 and jackson to 3..........hes much better than he is now
If they could bolster that WR corps, and get LT to have another similiar season to that he used to have you are right that Rivers wouldn't have to be elite. He definitely does more to win than he does to lose too, so that's a positive for him.
Also, hopefully next year their defense will play up their potential again. They couldn't shake Drew Bledsoe right now.
i think he hurts them alot because hes trying to do too much
Yeah that is my previous stance on him, but I was saying get him the help you were talking about and it's pretty much fool proof. He's damn smart. I remember him calling plays at nc state.
his delivery hurts him at times too because he does have a very low release point
almost kosar-esque
thats why he often gets bals tipped at the line
Agreed. It's like I said - he reminds of a lesser version of Hasslebeck. And we've seen how well Hasslebeck can do if he has tools around him.
basically
PT, as much as you have bagged on Cletus, now which one would you rather have. Rivers, or Cletus?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 722</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PT, as much as you have bagged on Cletus, now which one would you rather have. Rivers, or Cletus?</div></div>
this year cletus has been a much different qb
he hasnt made the idiotic mistakes that hurt his team........which frankly is why they are 11-1
so right now cletus
last year...........rivers because i still think the giants won inspite of him