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"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has repeatedly requested military aircraft to shuttle her and her colleagues and family around the country, according to a new report from a conservative watchdog group.

Representatives for Judicial Watch, which obtained e-mails and other documents from a Freedom of Information request, said the correspondence shows Pelosi has abused the system in place to accommodate congressional leaders and treated the Air Force as her "personal airline."

The e-mails showed repeated attempts by Pelosi aides to request aircraft, sometimes aggressively, and by Department of Defense officials to accommodate them."

"The group reported that Pelosi was notorious for making special demands for high-end aircraft, lodging last-minute cancellations, and racking up additional expenses for the military.

In one e-mail, aide Kay King complained to the military that they had not made available any aircraft the House speaker wanted for Memorial Day recess.

"It is my understanding there are NO G5s available for the House during the Memorial Day recess. This is totally unacceptable ... The Speaker will want to know where the planes are," King wrote. "

"In another, when told a certain type of aircraft would not be available, King wrote: "This is not good news, and we will have some very disappointed folks, as well as a very upset Speaker."
Pelosi's office has not yet responded to requests for comment. "

Pelosi Made Repeated Requests for Military Aircraft, Documents Show - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

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Originally Posted by Milk3

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has repeatedly requested military aircraft to shuttle her and her colleagues and family around the country, according to a new report from a conservative watchdog group.

Representatives for Judicial Watch, which obtained e-mails and other documents from a Freedom of Information request, said the correspondence shows Pelosi has abused the system in place to accommodate congressional leaders and treated the Air Force as her "personal airline."

The e-mails showed repeated attempts by Pelosi aides to request aircraft, sometimes aggressively, and by Department of Defense officials to accommodate them."

"The group reported that Pelosi was notorious for making special demands for high-end aircraft, lodging last-minute cancellations, and racking up additional expenses for the military.

In one e-mail, aide Kay King complained to the military that they had not made available any aircraft the House speaker wanted for Memorial Day recess.

"It is my understanding there are NO G5s available for the House during the Memorial Day recess. This is totally unacceptable ... The Speaker will want to know where the planes are," King wrote. "

"In another, when told a certain type of aircraft would not be available, King wrote: "This is not good news, and we will have some very disappointed folks, as well as a very upset Speaker."
Pelosi's office has not yet responded to requests for comment. "

Pelosi Made Repeated Requests for Military Aircraft, Documents Show - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

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I know the reps are having fun, and I find this funny too- but I bet if I had her job whoever was having trouble finding me a plane would be looking for a job. Of course if the events of the past 18 months continue, everybody in the country will have time to find a flight- none of us will be working.

I don't think he realizes that the Speaker is next in line if something were happen to the Prez and VP.

nancy pelosi is terrible tho, shes a horrible representative of the dem. party

I would hate to be associated with Pelosi in any form.

What is so wrong with her? Really have never understood the hate for her, what are some examples of her being as bad as people say? Anyone?

You seem to fancy yourself being the James Carville of the LPD Forum so here is a reason , Her love for Illegals and little or no immagration controls .

Okay she wasn't the only one who voted against the Secure Fence act I believe thats what it was called, that doesn't mean you coddle illegals. You pubs should love her...voted for No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act and was against a lot of Dems when they wanted to bring impeachment charges against Bush. Why is she so evil?

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You seem to fancy yourself in being the James Carville of the LPD Forum

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LOL that cracked me up

Ragin' Cajun Raider13 sounds pretty good to me :)

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What is so wrong with her? Really have never understood the hate for her, what are some examples of her being as bad as people say? Anyone?

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Well IMHO she is a shineing example of what is WRONG with congress on BOTH sides.

One of the BIG things that get me personaly is how hypocritical she is (#1 Gets a increase in the Min Wage with an exemption for her famley owned canning bussness so that it is not effected) (#2 While the (R)s were in charge she was Huge (and rightly so) in demanding that the minorty party (D)s have a voice in shapeing bills however when her party got control one of the 1st things she did was pass new house rules wipeing out the minorty partys abality to shape the bills) (#3 She has turned on members of he own party that have any opinion other than her vision of the party line)


IMHO She will be re-elected for as long as she wants to be but she will be the cause of several lost congressonal seats over the next few election

The first one is just completely wrong. The exemption wasn't for a "family owned canning business", not really close. It was for a Starkist tuna company on a pacific island, who's is owned by a company who is based in her district in California. Not a hometown family owned business like it was made out to be. It was proven that she didn't receive any donations or anything from them, their wage is 3.50 something and doubling that for the minimum wage law would hurt that hurt the company and maybe cause them to lay a lot of workers off?

Second one, I would just like to see those bills.

Third one, she is accused of "turning her back" on some members of the party because of her support of some of the Bush bills I mentioned before. They weren't too popular with the Dems and she voted in favor of them, also help blocking the impeachment deal didn't help her too much either.

I consider myself a Dem and all, but I'd be scared stupid if Pelosi were to be Prez.
I just do not like that woman.

I'm not her biggest fan, but I don't believe she is nowheres near as bad as people say.

"voted for No Child Left Behind"
Thats one strike against her.
Laura Bush shouldve been beat over the head for that one.

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their wage is 3.50 something and doubling that for the minimum wage law would hurt that hurt the company and maybe cause them to lay a lot of workers off?
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I think that was the argument against raising the Min Wage across the board it is just funny how the exemption benifets her district and everyone else be damned

FNC Reports Speaker Pelosi's Star-Kist Gap in the Minimum Wage Hike | NewsBusters.org
Why is American Samoa exempted from wage hike? (Pelosi form of ethics)
snopes.com: American Samoa Minimum Wage
Pelosi?s Tuna Hypocrisy Verbal Abuse

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Second one, I would just like to see those bills.
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Not bills but new house rules

http://www.rules.house.gov/111/LegTe...ruleschnge.pdf
http://budget.house.gov/crs-reports/RL34149.pdf
http://www.rules.house.gov/110/text/...6_secbysec.pdf

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Third one, she is accused of "turning her back" on some members of the party because of her support of some of the Bush bills I mentioned before. They weren't too popular with the Dems and she voted in favor of them, also help blocking the impeachment deal didn't help her too much either
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IMHO She would eat her own children to further her political agenda (The statment of you are eather with us of against us was stupid when Bush made it and is equily stupid when she lives by it)

The way I see it, turn about is fair play. I don't like the woman, but she's running over the GOP in much the same way the GOP ran over America for the past few years...and that doesn't hurt my feelings one bit.

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The way I see it, turn about is fair play. I don't like the woman, but she's running over the GOP in much the same way the GOP ran over America for the past few years...and that doesn't hurt my feelings one bit.

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THAT is the adatude that will distroy America one side always 1uping the other it sould not be about payback but makeing America a better place I do not care what political side you are on if your #1 goal is to stick it to the other side you are doing a diservice to the American people.........IMHO BOTH sides suck but the (D)s have been doing more than there fair share of sucking lately

It'll take a lot of "payback" to rectify what the Bush Administration did for 8 years...

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It'll take a lot of "payback" to rectify what the Bush Administration did for 8 years...

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You know payback and fixing are 2 differant things don't you?

Not everything Bush did was bad and not everything that this Congress is doing is good.

This whole pay back thing just goes to show you that to most of our elected officals politics is a game that you eather win or lose and not a duty to actualy repersent and work for the betterment of the American people :(

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Not everything Bush did was bad

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Tell ya what...you make a list of things Bush did that was good, and I'll make one of the bad things he did, and we'll see which list contains the items that impact us the most in the present day. I don't give a damn what Pelosi, the current congress, Obama, or anyone else has done...it won't stack up to Bush's failures.

Just a taste of Bush's fine legacy:
1-STARTED the War in Iraq
2-Failure in response to Hurricane Katrina
3-Backed warrantless wire surveillance
4-Amassed record deficits for the country
5-Guantanomo Bay
6-Patriot Act
7-No Child Left Behind
8-CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Act) along with other free trade acts:
US-Chile Free Trade Act
US-Singapore Free Trade Act
US-Bahrain Free Trade Act
9-Withdrew US from the ABM Treaty of 72 (Ballistic Missiles)
10-Stood in the way of Stem Cell Research
11-Vetoed State Children's Health Insurance Program legislation
12-TRIED to veto Water Resources Development Act of 07
13-Failure to protect the environment (KYOTO)
14-Failure to aid SSI
15-Subverted elements of the Constitution
...I can go on and on if ya want more...

Its a company in the pacific that is owned by one company in San Fran, I don't think it would be too beneficial. There's no proof of that company making donations to her or any of that sort, so she's not lobbying for them. They make 3.60 and hour, they're a territory who weren't even subject to the 5.15 minimum. Samoan gov employees only make 7.99 according to on of those articles, the company has 5,000 workers and more then doubling the wage of everyone of those workers would probably result in the closing of the company or workers laid off..that's not a good thing when that company employs half of the workforce on the island, esp when they are competing with similar companies who pay their workers 60 cents an hour. If she had made an exemption of a couple of companies that are located in her district...it'd be pretty shatty move by her. But the company of a company that happens to have its headquarters in her district isn't really an issue.

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Just a taste of Bush's fine legacy:
1-STARTED the War in Iraq
2-Failure in response to Hurricane Katrina
3-Backed warrantless wire surveillance
4-Amassed record deficits for the country
5-Guantanomo Bay
6-Patriot Act
7-No Child Left Behind
8-CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Act) along with other free trade acts:
US-Chile Free Trade Act
US-Singapore Free Trade Act
US-Bahrain Free Trade Act
9-Withdrew US from the ABM Treaty of 72 (Ballistic Missiles)
10-Stood in the way of Stem Cell Research
11-Vetoed State Children's Health Insurance Program legislation
12-TRIED to veto Water Resources Development Act of 07
13-Failure to protect the environment (KYOTO)
14-Failure to aid SSI
15-Subverted elements of the Constitution
...I can go on and on if ya want more...

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In your mind the (D)s can do no wrong and the (R)s can do nothing right I will be the

IMHO #13 is on your list is a + for him I for one dread the day we go down the rabbit hole of the Carbon tradeing (I know it is comming and IT WILL BE VERY BAD for SWVA)

#2 The folks from NO should have evacuated rather than hang around to loot the stores after the storm I Have talked to several folks that works on reparing Powerlines and such and they said that the sence of entitlement was rediculess to the point that if someone gave them a water they would get mad becouse it was not a Coke. I for one think that Katrina was a no win situaton reguardless of who was in charge

#3 and #6 seem to be OK with the (D)s now that Bush is out of power (But like you said it is time for payback now right?)

#8 - I hate all the Free trade agreements too if we had only lisened to Perot back in 92 :(

#14 gos for preatty much every Admin over the last 50 years (And I see thie one doing just about as much)

#4 Is nothing compared to what is comming our way

And the current administration is doing #15 themself



You know I HOPE that everything gets better I really do but all the worlds problems are NOT due to 1 man or even 1 party and the sooner we stop acting like they are and REALLY start tring to fix things we are doomed to repeat the failures of the past again and again :(

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In your mind the (D)s can do no wrong and the (R)s can do nothing right I will be the

IMHO #13 is on your list is a + for him I for one dread the day we go down the rabbit hole of the Carbon tradeing (I know it is comming and IT WILL BE VERY BAD for SWVA)

#2 The folks from NO should have evacuated rather than hang around to loot the stores after the storm I Have talked to several folks that works on reparing Powerlines and such and they said that the sence of entitlement was rediculess to the point that if someone gave them a water they would get mad becouse it was not a Coke. I for one think that Katrina was a no win situaton reguardless of who was in charge

#3 and #6 seem to be OK with the (D)s now that Bush is out of power (But like you said it is time for payback now right?)

#8 - I hate all the Free trade agreements too if we had only lisened to Perot back in 92 :(

#14 gos for preatty much every Admin over the last 50 years (And I see thie one doing just about as much)

#4 Is nothing compared to what is comming our way

And the current administration is doing #15 themself



You know I HOPE that everything gets better I really do but all the worlds problems are NOT due to 1 man or even 1 party and the sooner we stop acting like they are and REALLY start tring to fix things we are doomed to repeat the failures of the past again and again :(

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You might as well face it, the last 8 years have been the worst since RR said, "I'm gonna give my rich pals some tax breaks and if you poor bastards don't starve first, some will trickle down to ya. Get happy. "

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You might as well face it, the last 8 years have been the worst since RR said, "I'm gonna give my rich pals some tax breaks and if you poor bastards don't starve first, some will trickle down to ya. Get happy. "

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My guess would be the worst since the 4 year era when Billy Beer came out.

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My guess would be the worst since the 4 year era when Billy Beer came out.

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Carter 77-81. WCCO and Paramount both hired thru that period. By the end of 82 WCCO cut 100 and by the end of 85 they cut 500 (over 25% of the work force) as the coal industry ground to a halt along with the rest of the country. Billy Beer would have been good, if you could have bought it. We are about to discover why our grandparents formed unions. RR cried about tax cuts while driving defense spending thru the roof and didn't care what happened to the rest of the country. Don't look for a whole lot of "change" with this guy, but I don't think he can be any worse. It might get worse, as we are on quite a downhill slide.

The worm is turning already-

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system.
The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as ?the largest middle-class tax increase in history.? Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

Looks like the small biz doesn't have to worry about raised taxes, the middle class gets it again.:)NYT: Obama open to taxing health benefits - The New York Times- msnbc.com

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Carter 77-81. WCCO and Paramount both hired thru that period. By the end of 82 WCCO cut 100 and by the end of 85 they cut 500 (over 25% of the work force) as the coal industry ground to a halt along with the rest of the country. Billy Beer would have been good, if you could have bought it. We are about to discover why our grandparents formed unions. RR cried about tax cuts while driving defense spending thru the roof and didn't care what happened to the rest of the country. Don't look for a whole lot of "change" with this guy, but I don't think he can be any worse. It might get worse, as we are on quite a downhill slide.

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Do you think that the Coal industry will do better under our current Gov? That IMHO is my biggest worry

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The worm is turning already-

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system.
The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as ?the largest middle-class tax increase in history.? Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

Looks like the small biz doesn't have to worry about raised taxes, the middle class gets it again.:)NYT: Obama open to taxing health benefits - The New York Times- msnbc.com
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I really do not think this has legs wheather it is a good or bad idea with the way he hammered McCain over a very simular plan durring the election it would have the same effect and the 1st Bushes "Read my lips" commentand Obama is to smart to let that happen

Honestly, I don't think coal will fare any worse....but, it's time to realize that coal isn't viewed as the fuel of the future. And, as residents of a region that depends on coal, it's time to look for something to pin our future on besides coal.

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Honestly, I don't think coal will fare any worse....but, it's time to realize that coal isn't viewed as the fuel of the future. And, as residents of a region that depends on coal, it's time to look for something to pin our future on besides coal.

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My Job no longer directly depends directly on the Coal industry but if I want the reagion as a whole to do well Coal can not go down the tubes.....IMHO it is alot like the Auto industry liveing here I think that if they fail they fail and pumping money into them is not the best thing for us however if I lived in Detroit I would feel differant about the situation.

I don't want coal to go down the tubes either...but I'm not so blind I can't see the writing on the wall either. (not saying u are) But, coal will soon be the "way of the past"..and this region will have to find something else to pin its hopes on.

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I don't want coal to go down the tubes either...but I'm not so blind I can't see the writing on the wall either. (not saying u are) But, coal will soon be the "way of the past"..and this region will have to find something else to pin its hopes on.

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Retirment comunity :(