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I know we give the league a rough go,but if you look at the bowl season this year (save for Miami looking like trash-still lost by just 6 ),the ACC has at least been competitive. BC hung tough with USC,UNC had a shot vs Pitt,2-0 vs the mighty SEC with Clemson taking out UK and VT embarrassing UT. At least some signs of life anyway.
and the Mountain West (or what ever they are called) are perfect in bowl games so far. should they be elevated to an auto BCS bowl bid to the conference champ?
wtf are you spewing about??
the ACC is 2-3. listen, Clemson played for the ACC title, and beat a UK team that was 4th in the EAST. VT beat a 7-5, unranked,3rdin the East team.
whoo! you beat the two weakest SEC bowl teams this year! and it took your two best teams, aside from GT to do it.
how anyone can possibly brag about clemson beating uk or vt beating ut ill never know.
two ranked ACC teams beat two unranked, 7-5 SEC teams. YAY! YAY!
btw, the SEC is 2-2 right now.
yeah and normally all the SEC goers say that any ACC team would finish in the bottom of the conference. so if you look at it that way it is a win for the poor ol pitiful accQuote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
Why do you always have to attack anyone who is voicing their opinion? I'll give mt 2 cents about the ACC and SEC. IMO VT could have beaten any team in the SEC except UF and Bama. I'm not sure they couldn't beat UF. And while Bama ran over them in the 4th, they gave Bama a very good game for 3 quarters and was leading in the 4th. Yoy talk about UT being the 7-5 team but I don't think they would have finished any better if not worse in the ACC. I think there are several in the ACC that could beat them. And VT didn't just beat them they Sh&t stomped em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
I wouldn't mind seeing the SEC lose the BCS games, and then we'll easily have a split for co-champs this year. It's almost a have to.
but I'm pulling for Bama to beat Texas.
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Originally Posted by Biggin
The ACC is 3-3 now with FSU's win over a ranked opponent as of now Biggin,and they should have been better than that. Let's not be a hypocrite here Biggin talking about how pitiful those SEC teams were when just a month or so ago you were bragging on USC and UGA's romp over those "pitiful" ACC teams GT and Clemson. Most folks had UT winning big over VT because of them being in the SEC. The ACC got just a taste of getback going 2-0 head to head with the SEC this bowl season. We all know that the SEC is greater than the NFL according to you guys on here,but let's not slight the effort of Clemson and VT either.
Is that why VT was favored by a TD?Quote:
Most folks had UT winning big over VT because of them being in the SEC.
should read "a lot of SEC teams' fans"
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Originally Posted by GC-1
I guess VT should admit that they got the Sh&t stomped by Bama since the stats were even more lopsided than their win over UT.
Also Biggun, technically UT was 2nd in the East. Hopefully this years class and next years puts UT back in the top 10 annually where UT used to be.
No, I guess VT can admit to being beaten by a very good team vs Bama. One thing you overlook in your stats is that VT had over 250 return yards on Bama, which helped keep VT in the game and they actually led Bama until the 4th and Bama didn't put the game away until 6 minutes left at that point they only held a 27-24 lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
UT was completely man handled by VT especially in the 2nd half and they NEVER lead the entire game. Something Bama nor UF could do to the Vols. When you hold a team to 5 net yards rushing you have dominated their O line IMO. And if Stephan Virgil hadn't been so boneheaded lazy and made the grades I don't know if UT would have scored the 2 td's they did, both of which were aided by big pass plays to the side he should have been playing. Heck VT's back up running backs ran over the Vol D for a quarter and a half, what if RW had played the entire game? :eek: One thing though, I do think Kiffin will be able to bring the Vols back near the top. He is an excellent recruiter. I expect the Gators to drop off now and UT should be able to take the East back, but you still have Bama and LSU sitting over in the West.
If you are going to say UT got SH!t stomped, which they did by VT, then you have to say the same for the VT/Bama game. Theres not much of a difference between those two games. Both were close for 3 quarters and then were manhandled in the 4th.
The East will be a mess next year. Who knows what will happen in Florida. UT loses quite a bit. Its hard to tell what you will get from UGA, USC or UK. Every one of them may end up even in the conference. Bama will still be the team to beat next year IMO. LSU really won't worry me too much as long as Les Miles is there. They will have talent to win, but lose games they shouldnt.
Next season may not be the year for UT but I think they can get back in 2-3 seasons maybe. It takes some time and I do hope UT doesn't do like many schools and only give Kiffin a couple years before they can him.
With the recruits Bama has rolling in to complement what they already have I wouldn't be surprised to see them playing for the MNC again next season. Heck, they may 3-peat!
Yep. I dont think UT will run Lane out of town in short time unless something really odd goes down. They will build a winner.
Bamas on a roll no doubt. And, as a UT fan, I hate it.
The SEC is for sure Bama's to lose next year. The East could be won by anyone except UK and Vandy. UT's schedule is a biotch next year. They get Fla and Ala in Knoxville, but have to travel to USCjr, UGA, and LSU. OOC schedule features Oregon (who returns 18 starters) in K-town next year. Mark this one down though, after Ohio St. beat Oregon yesterday, they will be ranked 1 or 2 pre-season next year. I know I'm rambling on here, but did anybody hear Wussberger drooling and going gaga over Ohio St.?Quote:
Originally Posted by GC-1
VT led going into the 4th quarter of the Bama game...how, in any sense of the term, is that a "sh*t stomping"...VT certainly had more than 5 yards rushing, and a lot of the reason we didn't have a lot of total yards was the field position, like someone stated earlier we had 250 yards returning, so there's not a lot of yards to gain when you're starting from Bama's 35Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
don't be ridiculous, the outcome of the VT-Bama game was still in question with about 6 or 7 min to go in the 4th...it was over in the 3rd quarter of the VT-UT game
The UT game was not over in the 3rd. It was over after Moore dropped the TD and VT went down and cashed in on the next possession. Bama dominated VT in that game. They didn't put it out of reach on the scoreboard till late, but they physcially whipped VT on both sides of the ball, just as VT did UT the other night.
So with your reasoning since UT outgained Bama 341-256 UT should be awarded the win since stats are so indicative of the winner. The simple fact is VT ran roughshod over UT in the 2nd half. VT also held a 223-151 halftime advantage so using your logic it wasn't really close in the 1st half.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
No, thats only using VTs reasoning after the Bama game. I said Bama dominated VT, and VT dominated UT.
VT held a one point lead going into the 4th. Bama added ten points before VT scored again. the game was over with 12 minutes to go with Ingram threw a TD pass, and went up 24-17, not 6 minutes leftQuote:
Originally Posted by gcdevil22
VT, in the second half, could not move the ball at all.
499-199 total yards.
And you try and say ist because of field position??AHAHAHAHA
try T. Taylor's 91 passing yards. VT had nothing for Alabama.
but yall can bicker back and forth, im worried about Texas and a national title, not a Peach Bowl against a 7-5 team depleted with injuries
really? a 7 point game, with VT having the ball is over?? in that case the first team to score in every football game since its invention constitutes a "game over"...that's just sillyQuote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
apparently you are worried about it, you've made 3 or 4 posts on the subjectQuote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
Hard for me to believe that some of y'all think Tech beating a team as down as UT somehow "validates" the ACC...what a joke.
When are you guys ever going to learn that conference strength is a fradulent arguement? Every game is about matchups, not about conference strength. You could put a bad WAC team up against Alabama and if that team had certain strengths and used them against Bamas weakenesses, you could get an upset. If Bama losses to Texas, it will be a result of mismatches and time off from the regular season(rustyness), not conference affiliation.
It's fraudulent if you assume a team will beat another based on the conference they play in...but it's not fraudulent to say one conference is stronger then the other..and that's wht I was saying. Tech is as good as the ACC has to offer..and that ain't saying much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich_Kotite
I thought Ga Tech won the conference?Quote:
Originally Posted by sup-rbeast
yes, 6 10-win seasons in a row isn't saying much, nor is a top 10 finishQuote:
Originally Posted by sup-rbeast
No need in arguing with them.They got such hard-ons for the SEC you can't reason with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcdevil22
its not saying much when you are playing 3 teams a year that are barely even D1. im a tech fan but come on now. there schedule is and always will be ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcdevil22
ok this year ALONE VT played the:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
SEC champion...(national champion?)
Big 12 runner-up (should've won that game over Texas)
Conf. USA champion
then there was Marshall, who would be considered the pancake of the group who were bowl eligible and won their bowl game
then in-conference games against a top 10 GT and a Miami team who was #11 at the time
but let's go back even further than that...in the 6-year span that VT has won at least 10 games, these have been the OOC opponents:
USC
Auburn
WVU
Louisville
Cincinnati (twice)
Southern Miss
Georgia
LSU
Kansas
Nebraska (twice)
Alabama
Tennessee
name any other team who has played against tougher opponents OOC
Auburn, one of the Cincy games, Georgia, Kansas and UT were bowl games but still count toward whether or not VT gets to 10 wins in a season
VT having a weak schedule is an old argument, and a tired one at that
They did...and it's the only major conference they could have won... And for the record, instead of trying to build up VT cuz of their "tough" schedule (WTF?) give us a run down of quality wins they've had in the past few years alnog with the records those "Quality win" teams they beat sported at the end of the season. That'll give you a clearer picture of where VT stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich_Kotite