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He has had 2 horrible games this seris...not just off...but actual bad bad games...is he choking?? thats what I think i just think its all the pressusre and he is chokeing
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He has had 2 horrible games this seris...not just off...but actual bad bad games...is he choking?? thats what I think i just think its all the pressusre and he is chokeing
he supposedly has an elbow injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJP
Only when they lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
He's had the elbow injury for awhile, it got bad in the last round. He makes no excuses, he nor anyone else on that team with it.
The problem is that Lebron isnt 100% and cant carry the team with his elbow. And no one else on the team has stepped up. Its pretty much hurt lebron vs 5 celtics.
Exactly. No one else on that team has stepped the hell up, Mo Williams is example 1, he's let Rondo do whatever he wants...when ever he wants. Lebron does his job and has shut down Pierce - he's averaging like 11 PPG! They lose this series and bye-bye Lebron and I don't blame him for a second, let Cleveland go back to the old **** poor team before he came.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fifty_One
Lebron played with no passion in game 5, many times he was standing around watching.
Hurt or not, players like MJ, Bird, Magic, or Kobe would never go down like that without a fight.
They all had a team around them tho.... Lebron doesn't you have to take that into consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by CP7
This is ridiculous. Going down without a fight? What are you talking about? I'm not even a Mavs fan, but everyone should be allowed one bad game, and Lebron decided to take his at an inopportune moment. And as previously stated, who does Lebron have to help him?Quote:
Originally Posted by CP7
He's got more than Dwayne Wade had in 06. Neither have great talent but the Cavs sure seem better to me. In 06 Shaq was probably 65-75% of what he was when he first started, and he's about 50% of that now. Other than Shaq who was slightly better then, who on that roster was better than what the Cavs have now? Shandon Anderson? Udonis Haslem? A beat down, nothing of a player, with a kidney disease Alonzo Mourning? A washed up, useless Gary Payton? I'd take Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson, JJ Hickson, Ilgauskas, Jamison, Varejao, Delonte West, even Parker over anyone other than Shaq that was on that Heat team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ytmnd
Lebron might be the most physically impressive athlete to ever play any sport. His size, speed, strength, is unlike any other human I can ever even think of. There's ZERO excuse for a depleted Shaq to score 20+ while Lebron scores 15 in a loss that could help close their season out. He needs to quit jacking up 3's, checking his forehead for blood everytime he gets a touch foul, and start flushing people down the freaking basket at will.
It's time for you under 30 kiddies to quit thinking he's God. He's not in the same class as Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kobe' (he's better now, not during his prime though), and dozens of others. He's only 26 so he has plenty of time to prove himself, but the constant excuses from his little "fans" and himself need to stop.
i just stood up and clapped, now my wife thinks im crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
Just for clarification purposes, he's right now the best basketball player in the world. He seems like a very good person. You'll never hear anything bad about him buying crack or picking up hookers. He's amazing and fun to watch. He needs to do the mental things, the team leader things, to get him to even be close to the greatest player ever. He's got a long ass way to go right now. Like I said before, good thing he's only 26. Of couse D. Wade won one in his 3rd year. ;)
just got off work and turned the game on just in time to catch the shaq/perkins double T. looks like a good game lebron still looks horribly out of character, i really hope he gets going late, im not ready to stop watching james this year.
He's been a turnover machine and a shrinking violet. He needs to attack more and not pass off to someone when they're playing man to man and being covered by Ray Allen.
Two good shots from him. We'll see if he can keep it up.
wow, he hits 2 three's back to back then dribbles the ball off his own foot for rondo a wide open lay up then another turnover for a peirce 3 hahahah this is bad.
Yeah, this was a low TRIPLE-DOUBLE night for him. Did his part, as usual and the rest of the Cavs don't...Mo had a pretty good game. Doubt we'll see him in a Cavs uniform next season, oh well.
people will talk more about the turnovers than the triple doubleQuote:
Originally Posted by R13
I heard on ESPN yesterday that over the last 50 years, the Lakers and Celtics have won 25 NBA titles. Jordan and the Bulls won 6. The Pistons had their run for 2-3 years. The problem isnt Lebron, the problem is that he doenst play for the Lakers or Celtics.
He's scored 5 points less than Lebron, had about half as many (4 less) turnovers, was 100% on his ft's and had a better ft%, had a better shooting %, 1 less steal, and he was just OK. Shaq was in double digits in points and had a better shooting %. They lost by 9 points, how many of those turnovers led to points for Boston? Looking quickly through the play by play on the ESPN boxscore, I saw at least 6 points come from those. Some how his supporting cast helped lead the Cavs to the best record in the NBA but now they're garbage again? Or was he able to obtain that record by himself this season? The guy's great, but he has a bad habit of shrinking when it becomes too big for him. He passes the ball to someone else too often in that situation. He's not going to win a championship unless he can have someone else carry him like Dwayne Wade, who can make the big shot when he can't, or until he matures enough to not let those moments get bigger than him. He needs to quit crying everytime he's called for a foul and everytime he's slapped on the arm he needs to quit acting like he needs an ambulance. Just play, be the unstoppable monster he should be, and be what some of you people make him out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
Last night he just did okay, the ft% means nothing, wow he 5 out of ALL 5 of his ft's, Lebron hit 9 out of 12...still means nothing. Lebron had 12 more rebounds and shot more shots also, plus 6 more assists, which you would think the PG would have more assists than the forward. Mo had been a no show in the other games, letting Rondo bend him over. Lebron has one bad game and here come the haters, of course they were nowhere to be found when he put up 35, 24, 28, 22 and last nights 27...but that 15 point performance really shows how he's choked in the playoffs. And of course Shaq would have a better %, when you don't shoot further than 6 feet out, you'll have a great %. Who else had a double digit night? That's right, no one else on the Cavs team scored more that a whopping 7 points. He lead the series in ppg, think the playoffs too and I believe only behind Rondo in assists...yet the moment got bigger than him. He's given some of the best playoff performances ever, he doesn't choke, he does his part...always. His team was definitely great around him during the season, but a no-show in the playoffs and esp this series. Play like garbage and they'll be talked about like garbage, they have it easier than anyone else, no spotlight on them. No ones talking about their **** poor performance against the Celtics, but the guy that averaged 27 a game is the one to blame. He's also just no "whining" when he gets fouled 10 times harder than the average player, the guy is huge, he gets the hell knocked out of him every time he's fouled because it'll be a sure and1 if they don't. He's shown the most maturity I have ever seen with someone at his age and pressure, he makes the veterans look like 13 year olds, I really don't know what else anyone could ask for the guy...really, he performs every single night, back-to-back MVP's, puts up close to 30 a night, with an assist here and couple of rebounds there from averaging a triple-double...but he needs to do more?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
First of all can everyone on this ****ing board drop this 10 year old outdated "haters" bull****. Add booyah and wassup to your repertoir while you're at it. Last night was not a good game for him. Having a quadruple double with one of those doubles being turnovers negates a lot of those other numbers. There were two others that scored more than 7 points as well, Shaq, and Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
No. Not always. Having double digit turnovers and scoring 15 points is not ALWAYS doing his part. Out of an 80+ game schedule and the playoffs that guy ever having less than 20 more than once is a failure. He's just that much better than everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
His team didn't play any differently in the playoffs than they did during the season. They're not great, but they're good enough to win as long as James is the monster he should be. Who the hell isn't talking about "their **** poor performance against the Celtics"? Everyone one of you nut huggers is doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
He's already gotten to the point of if anyone gets near him, he gets awarded 2+1 or 2 from the stripe. There was a foul last night on Tony Allen where he litterally didn't touch him. Not body, not arm, not anything. There was a ft of air between the two of them. And again, not it's not every single night he performs. Scoring 15 ever is unacceptable unless he's taken out at half in a blowout.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
90% of Lebron's shots should come from inside 6 ft. He's one of the most physically dominating players to ever play the game. He doesn't need to be shooting 3's unless there's nobody within 10 ft of him. Even then, why? Just flush the ******* down the hoop and send a washed up Kevin Garnett, Paul Peirce, and Ray Allen down the basket with the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
btw...He does get too much of the blame in a situation like this. He's far from blameless though. The last 2 games were a bigger fault to him than the others though. His numbers looked good but the way he got them is one of the reasons they lost.