Looks like the NCAA has finally handed down the sanctions on USC. 2 year bowl ban, reduction of 20 scholarships, and vacate 14 wins from 2004 season. This has been the rumor for quite sometime but I am surprised they actually did it.
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Looks like the NCAA has finally handed down the sanctions on USC. 2 year bowl ban, reduction of 20 scholarships, and vacate 14 wins from 2004 season. This has been the rumor for quite sometime but I am surprised they actually did it.
My heart bleeds buttermilk for them.
All this came from Reggie Bush correct, and by Heisman standards of eligibility he should have to forfeit that trophy and hand it over to Vince Young.
Welcome back Lane.
The club that handles the Heisman has already said that if the NCAA found issues with Bush's eligibility that they will review his standing and possibly remove him from the club.
But Vince won't be getting anything, it'll just be vacated.
Don't really care if it goes to anybody or not, just Vince finished second in the voting that year. I think it's a BS honor anymore anyway.
I hope this is only the beginning
Baylor
Mississippi State
Kentucky
Kansas
UConn
Memphis
only a few of the bigger fish to fry
That's the second time I've seen you mention Stansbury or Mississippi State. What's the story there? This can't all be from an NIT win over VT. ;)
haha no...I'm actually blanking on any NIT win Miss St had over VT though (not sayin it didn't happen, just that I'm blanking on when it happened)
none of those schools are on this list because of anything having to do with VT....as a matter of fact VT doesn't regularly recruit the same kids as those schools...the only one I can think of is Tyshawn Taylor who was a long-time VT lean and VT slow played him because of Nigel Munson and Malcolm Delaney...Taylor chose Marquette and VT backed off altogether...Crean left Marquette for IU, Taylor opened it back up and ulitmately chose Kansas...so even that situation wasn't a head-to-head battle
wrt Mississippi State...it starts with Jamont Gordon (I'm surprised you don't remember that) he was a HUGE Tennessee lean...to the point where he told any and every player he played with on the AAU circuit that he was headed to UT and that they should join him...Mississippi State was never a serious option...then in a 2-week span Stansbury came in and "recruited" him heavily and got him to sign with Miss State...the stories I've heard with the perks he was offered range from girls to cars to money, but every person I've talked to (including someone heavily involved with his AAU team, the Tennessee Travelers) has said he was definitely bought by Stansbury
but it doesn't stop there...Renardo Sidney...huge recruit, once committed to Tim Floyd at USC (that should tell you all you need to know there)...there is a reason the NCAA held him out all last year and will hold him out as long as they legally can...they're building a case against MSU and hopefully they uncover the Jamont Gordon situation as well
neither Jamont Gordon nor Renardo Sidney had anything to do with VT..and for good reason
I know the Gordon deal. I'd never heard anything underhanded had happened with it though. I'd also heard the guy who runs the Rivals MSU site talking about Sidney on Rivals Radio a few weeks ago. He was basically saying that the NCAA ruled him eligible around tourney time last year but he was so fat and out of shape that they just let him sit. He said the dude was way over 300 lbs.
Everything I've ever heard on Stansbury has always been positive. Interviews with other coaches, media, ect, have always been positive. Of course it could be something different off record.
yikes...I've never heard anything good about the guy...I am unaware of the NCAA ruling Sidney eligible...last I had heard he was going to sit out until December of next year when the Sidney family was going to file a suit against the NCAA for slow-playing his case
Sidney is a fat blob though, I wouldn't doubt that one bit
back to USC...it seems like when it comes to basketball they're saying "ok, we were caught..now let's take our medicine and play by the rules" but when it comes to football they're saying "****, we're gonna have to be more sneaky"
they hire a coach in bball in Kevin O'Neill who is praised in the coaching world for how clean he runs his programs and his coaching ability under bad conditions...but the football team, KNOWING they're going to be facing sanctions, decided to hire a guy who is known ONLY because of the noise he has made by breaking rules....how many mouth-breathers are running that school??
On Sidney, I don't know if I misheard, mis-remembered (about him being ruled eligible during the season), or what but below is the ruling from the NCAA website on the case. I believe it was decided in February.
Mississippi State University basketball student-athlete Renardo Sidney must sit out the remainder of the current season and 30 percent of the 2010-11 season, according to a decision announced Friday by the NCAA academic and membership affairs staff.
In addition, Sidney must repay $11,800 in benefits received from preferential treatment. The sanction for 2010-11 is estimated to be nine games.
Mississippi State declared Sidney ineligible for violations of NCAA ethical-conduct and preferential-treatment rules. The ethical-conduct violations pertained to providing false or misleading information throughout the eligibility process.
Sidney and his family benefited by using funds from a nonprofit organization for personal gain, according to the facts presented by Mississippi State. The academic and membership affairs staff determined that those funds would not have been available were it not for the student-athlete’s athletics skills and reputation. Other preferential treatment included hotel accommodations and other travel expenses, as well as free athletics gear and training.
“Our members have made it crystal clear that student-athletes who receive impermissible benefits, either directly or indirectly, and who lie to the NCAA must be held accountable,” said Kevin Lennon, vice president for academic and membership affairs. “This case is about more than a single student-athlete. One of our core responsibilities is to ensure a level playing field for all student-athletes and their teams. No team or individual should have an unfair advantage.”
The NCAA made repeated requests for specific information related to Sidney’s eligibility beginning in April 2009. However, Sidney and his attorney failed to promptly and accurately reply to the requests, which caused multiple delays in resolving the case.
In contrast, the NCAA received the final reinstatement request with all agreed-upon facts on February 26 and rendered its decision within a week.
The staff considers a number of factors when deciding each case. Those include the nature and seriousness of the violation, any impermissible benefits received, the student-athlete’s level of responsibility, any mitigating factors presented by the university, applicable NCAA guidelines and any relevant case precedent.
The staff considered all factors presented by Mississippi State in its review of the situation.
Mississippi State can appeal the decision to the NCAA Division I Student-Athlete Reinstatement Committee, an independent committee composed of representatives from Division I member institutions and athletics conferences. That committee can reduce or remove the conditions, but it cannot increase the conditions imposed by the staff.
that's more in line with what I was hearing...college basketball is a dirty dirty dirty business, but I'll give the NCAA credit in that they're starting to take some action....not only with the penalties for USC, Michigan, and UConn...but also for more investigations under way, that are equally as big as USC
btw, I'm being told that if USC had not self-imposed sanctions on their basketball team and "fired" Tim Floyd, USC would not only have gotten a TV restriction, but would have had a 5-year postseason ban and 9 scholarships in basketball during that 5-year period...essentially a death penalty in the basketball world
Floyd's a slimey *******. I thought this article from the USAToday was funny.
When the University of Texas-El Paso hired Tim Floyd on March 30, some questioned the move as Floyd's name was still linked to an NCAA investigation into alleged payments made to a handler for O.J. Mayo at Southern Cal.
On Thursday, the NCAA made public its punishment for USC over the alleged violations and while the association hammered the USC's football program, it said the self-imposed penalties to the men's basketball program were sufficient and added no more sanctions.
UTEP, which has maintained its position that Floyd would not be punished further by the NCAA, responded Thursday with a statement from athletics director Bob Stull saying that it is pleased with the NCAA's findings.
"We are pleased with today's announcement and the results of the NCAA's report. Tim Floyd has had a nearly 30-year relationship with UTEP and we regard him not only as an outstanding coach, but as an individual of the highest character. I'm sure that Tim is happy to put this behind him and we look forward to him leading our basketball program."Floyd's attorney, Jim Darnell, released a statement on behalf of the coach later in the day:
As you are all aware by now, the National Collegiate Athletic Association issued its report today regarding the University of Southern California athletic program. What you have not seen is the cover letter from the NCAA to Coach Floyd, which states:
"The committee did not name you in any findings of violations or impose a penalty upon you."
As coach has wanted to say publicly for a long time: "It didn't happen."
We are pleased at this outcome, but certainly not surprised. The Committee did its work and reached the right conclusion. Neither COach nor any of his assistants was found to have violated any of the NCAA rules at play in this case.
hahahaha I had read that as well, I think ESPN linked it on their website...not sure what that guy is smokin, but he couldn't have possibly said that with a straight face
I have heard for a while that Stansbury is the dirtiest coach in the SEC, well, until Cal came in.
Vote and make the right choice.
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You're blanking on it for good reason.....it was Ole Miss, not MSU, that beat VT in the NIT a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by gcdevil22
It was neither I was thinking of. I don't know why I thought they played this past season. Maybe I was thinking of the MSU/UNC game. I didn't quite put together what Drew was talking about last night. Sorry to leave everyone scratching their heads.