Billionaires who haven't taken the pledge...

The Giving Pledge is the brainchild of billionaire businessmen Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. The two of them have teamed up to ask the world's wealthiest people to donate at least 50% of their fortunes to charities. They believe that the richest people in the world can eradicate many of the world's problems through philanthropy. The pledge is not a binding contract but more of a "moral commitment". Individuals are free to donate money to whatever cause they would like. So, far about 40 billionaires have accepted the giving pledge challenge. That's not a large number when you consider that there are nearly 1,000 billionaires in the world, according to Forbes. So, who hasn't signed up and for what reason?

Carl Icahn

Wall Street tycoon Carl Icahn is noticeably absent from the Giving Pledge website and for good reason. According to Icahn, Buffett and Gates failed to inform the billionaire investor. Icahn is enthusiastic about joining the Giving Pledge and plans on donating a large portion of his estate. Icahn currently has a net worth of $10.5 billion dollars. With a fortune that large, Icahn's phone may be ringing right this minute.

George Soros

Despite being an active participant in the first meeting, it is unclear whether Soros will join with the other billionaires and donate his sizable fortune. According to Forbes magazine, the self-made billionaire investor has a net worth of $14 billion dollars.

It really doesn't matter if Soros signs the pledge or not given his history of philanthropy. He has funded educational projects, infrastructure projects and humanitarian causes all around the world. Soros has given away $7 billion dollars of his fortune to charitable endeavors already and he plans to donate a large portion of his total wealth anyway.

Meg Whitman

Former eBay CEO and current California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman has "no plans to join billionaires pledge" according to the Associated Press. She has not been contacted by Buffett or Gates and would decline if invited. Whitman is using her immense wealth to run for governor and build her charitable foundation. Whitman who has a net worth of $1.4 billion dollars has had to use her own money to run for state office. She has spent nearly $100 million dollars of her own money in seeking the state's top job. Whitman also has plans to donate to environmental and educational causes through her personal foundation.

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Oprah Winfrey

With a net worth of $2.4 billion dollars, Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest women in the world. She is the highest-grossing star in the world of entertainment. She has been regularly voted as the most philanthropic celebrity in the field of entertainment. Winfrey has been silent on her intentions to join the giving pledge. It may be a possibility considering the star recently shut down her Angel Network charitable organization which has donated more than $80 million dollars to humanitarian causes. Winfrey still has the Oprah Winfrey Foundation which has reportedly given away over $230 million dollars since 1998.

Walton Family

The Walton family has four members on the Forbes list of the wealthiest people in the world. They can all thank Walmart founder Sam Walton for that.

Christy Walton is the 12th richest person in the world according to Forbes, with $22.5 billion dollars. She inherited her wealth after the passing of her husband. Jim Walton is the 15th richest person in the world with a net worth of $20.7 billion dollars. Alice Walton comes in right behind Jim with a net worth of $20.6 billion dollars. S. Robson Walton is the 18th wealthiest person with a net worth of $19.8 billion dollars. None of them, however, is on the giving pledge list. The family has not commented as to why they have not signed up.

Peter Kramer

Many international billionaires and millionaires are not signing up because they see the Giving Pledge as too ostentatious. Some see the promise as a status symbol and a way of bringing more attention to the super rich.

German shipping millionaire Peter Kramer feels that it would better if the billionaires kept their money and let the government collect the revenue via taxes. Kramer believes that the government would use the money more effectively by putting it to work directly in local communities. He thinks that the giving pledge is a way for the ultra rich to avoid taxes and donate to their favorite interests and hobbies. Many of the rich feel that the government and other organizations are the best vehicles for charitable endeavors.

The Bottom Line

Bill Gates and Warren Buffett should be commended for coming up with the giving pledge idea. They have convinced 40 of the world's wealthiest individuals and families to give back to society. If they want to convince the other 900 or so billionaires however, they have a whole lot more schmoozing to do.


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Oprah has always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. Doesn't surprise me she won't sign up for this.

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Originally Posted by Milk3

Oprah has always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. Doesn't surprise me she won't sign up for this.

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It's her money. She doesn't have to give it to anybody. Do I wish she would? Yes. But she earned it and doesn't have to give it to anybody.

Maybe she can do like my uncle said he was gonna do, Line his casket with it and make his family bury it with him. LOL. Rocky knows the one I am talking about.

I'd tell them to go have intercourse with themselves.

Just because they havent taken "The Pledge" doesn't mean they dont already have philanthropic plans for their money already. Oprah doesn't really have any immediate heirs to give her $ to straight out. So who knows, maybe it's already planned out for trusts and such.

I can see where most of them are coming, Oprah does A LOT, Sorros has given away 7 billion, Whitman does have the campaign, I can sort of see Kramer's point of view and the Ichan guy. The ones that stick out though, the Walton family, they're a collection of some of the richest in the world and not one are on the list. And the "oh they earned it" doesn't apply, it's all inherited from Sam and Bud, not too mention it's put countless people out of business and is the largest corporation in the world. Yet, nothing. Of course they don't have to, it's their right, but it's pretty low IMO. The whole thing isn't a legal obligation, it's just more of a symbolic thing which would do a lot of good. Oh well.

I wouldnt give a dime of it away.

What moral obligation is it to give away what you earned?
Regardless who your heir is or not. Or have someone misuse (sp) after you are dead, if you want to do it while your alive thats fine, this moral obligation is horse ****.

You wouldn't give a dime of 20 billion dollars away? Wow.

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Originally Posted by yankeebaseball

I wouldnt give a dime of it away.

What moral obligation is it to give away what you earned?
Regardless who your heir is or not. Or have someone misuse (sp) after you are dead, if you want to do it while your alive thats fine, this moral obligation is horse ****.

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I'm with ya.... if it were my money, that's my money... sorry the hand God dealt you with life, but that's yours, this is mine.. is it selfish? NO.. you earned, spend it and use it the way you see fit.

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Originally Posted by R13

You wouldn't give a dime of 20 billion dollars away? Wow.

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Not in the self-serving manner in which those signing that 'pledge' have done.

Self-serving? What would that be? To look good? I don't really care if they were trying to impress some chick somewhere, it's going to be helping millions of people, Gates and Buffet have given away a ridiculous amount and both have obligated money to be given away after they're gone.

And as I've said, the only one I really have mentioned was the Waltons, they didn't earn a dime...they won the genetic lottery. Of course they don't have to, no one is arguing they do, but generosity is a virtue of a good human-being. Not giving any money to help other when you have that many billions is nothing but selfish, foolish to claim otherwise, but oh well.

But you don't know that they do not have something in a will to contribute to someplace like St. Judes or anything like that. You really cannot persecute someone just because you don't know. Alot of these folks don't let people know where their fortunes go after their passing, or what they may give away while they are alive.

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Originally Posted by R13

You wouldn't give a dime of 20 billion dollars away? Wow.

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not one red cent.
unless i gave it first hand and appropriated how I felt it should be.

no blanket organization, if someone needed a hospital, id have it built.
if a college needed a special amount for help, id see it through.
along those lines, you realize that carnagie did this and people basically misused all his philanthropy dont you, well not misused, thats prob the wrong term but his generosity was taken advantage of often, The Carnegie Hero Fun was his pet project . It was said to have came out of his own head and made him the happiest. Not just giving money away to whatever org wanted it, which he did as well. bout 332 mill of his money went to charity or 90%
In his manifesto the "The Gospel of Wealth" he wrote no man becomes rich unless he enriches others"
He would receive hundreds of letters a day asking for his money he made from US steel after he sold it to JP Morgan.
other than that, no.


and that isnt copy and paste.
i have no moral obligation or commitment to anyone or anything.

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Self-serving? What would that be? To look good? I don't really care if they were trying to impress some chick somewhere, it's going to be helping millions of people, Gates and Buffet have given away a ridiculous amount and both have obligated money to be given away after they're gone.

And as I've said, the only one I really have mentioned was the Waltons, they didn't earn a dime...they won the genetic lottery. Of course they don't have to, no one is arguing they do, but generosity is a virtue of a good human-being. Not giving any money to help other when you have that many billions is nothing but selfish, foolish to claim otherwise, but oh well.

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Have you had a lot of billionaires help you?