OK, who are the top ten NFL runningbacks?
my list;
1a) Adrian Peterson
1b) Chris Johnson
3) Maurice Jones-Drew
4) Steven Jackson
5) Ray Rice
6) Frank Gore
7) Rashad Mendenhall
8) Michael Turner
9) Thomas Jones
10) Arian Foster
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OK, who are the top ten NFL runningbacks?
my list;
1a) Adrian Peterson
1b) Chris Johnson
3) Maurice Jones-Drew
4) Steven Jackson
5) Ray Rice
6) Frank Gore
7) Rashad Mendenhall
8) Michael Turner
9) Thomas Jones
10) Arian Foster
we talking just this year? this era or what?
1a) Adrian Peterson
1b) Chris Johnson
Arian Foster
LT
Ray Rice
Rashard Mendenhall
Michael Turner
Jamal Charles
darren mcfadden
MJD
in no particular order
yeah, who are the 10 best in the NFL right now
Can't argue with your list Biggin. If Peterson didn't have the fumble problem in my eyes he would be the clear #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
Here's where I get roasted. Biggin's 1b is the most overrated player in the NFL. Especially if you're talking about Rb's. There was a stat I saw a month or so ago that I'm going to use and I'm going to butcher it but here goes, it was something like unless he breaks a run over 50 yards the chances of him going over 100 yards go down significantly. He's a great play-maker and at any point in time he can go the distance, if he doesn't though his overall yardage for games is very pedestrian. I'm not sure I wouldn't put MJD at #1. I'd definately have TJ, MJD, AP, Gore, Rice, Jackson, and Turner just from Biggin's list ahead of CJ.
That is about like Barry Sanders. If I not mistaken Sanders has a stat that has him as one of the all time leading backs with negative yard carries, or something like that.
wait wait wait............ did you really just say that? BECAUSE somebody has the ability to bust out 40-70 yard carries a game that makes them overrated, explain that please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
The explanation is this, if he doesn't break a run of over 50 yards he's more than likely to end up with 18 carries for 52 yards. Kind of like last week when he was hovering at about 70 yards for the game and then breaks a 30+ yard run on his last carry with less than 2 minutes to go to make his day look a lot better. He doesn't get the tough yards, he's a toss it around the end and try to break a long run player. That's great and he's one of the NFL's best players but he's overrated as in people saying he's the best back in football.
As for Starbuck's comment, the guy couldn't hold Barry Sanders jock either. Barry Sanders played on atrocious teams with atrocious OL's. Johnson plays on the best run blocking team in the NFL.
I love to watch (Lil Wayne) I mean Chris Johnson run, it at times is breathtaking but I don't think he is the best back, I think Peterson gets what he gets on pure talent he doesn't have Lil Wayne's speed but has good balance and can cut on a dime. I loved Barry Sanders he was like watching Jordan, but Emmitt Smith has all the records because he got every thing out of every carry. Good topic but I think maybe Peterson over Lil Wayne by a nose ring.
im sorry, but a man doesnt gain 2000 yards rushing on accident or breaking a long run every now and then. I still personally think its a toss up between him and AP, but id take CJ over AP in a playoff game.
Good point you don't just roll out of bed and rush for two grand.
lung bringin the knowledge to this thread
Johnson plays for the best run blocking OL in the league, Barry Sanders played behind some of the worst OL's in NFL history.
I see Lung's point, but I feel Johnson is still a top 3 RB because of that breakaway ability. Its not just runs either, swing passes, etc... he can take to the house. He will never get the tough yards (Javon Ringer will), but he still racks up serious yardage and YPG. But I disagree with ya Lung because of his ability. I dont think its fair to punish a guy because he breaks big runs. That's his style. He will get 2-3 yards a time, and the one time the defense makes a mistake, he takes it to the house. He averaged 125 yards a game last year.
I have a hard time not putting a guy with 5.6 yards a carry last year towards the top.
But I also believe that MJD might be the 2nd best (Adrian Peterson is the best, and I dont see its close, in terms of pure rushing ability and talent, he is the best. And no way do I take CJ over AP in the playoffs. CJ might not fumble, but he cant get the tough short yards when it counts like AP can.). Im a big MJD fan. If he had a better offense and a better OL, he is the guy everybody talks about, not CJ. Cause MJD catches better, runs better between the tackles, is harder to bring down, etc.. CJ is faster, but if I am building a team, I take MJD before CJ.
Also, Steven Jackson is the most underrated player in the NFL. The man is an absolute monster, with speed to boot!
MJD is always pretty good when the season starts but always seems to get banged up. Peterson goes through spells thinking he is point guard and putting ball on the floor it all comes down to who you like I guess.
[QUOTE=heneedsa;1841288]MJD is always pretty good when the season starts but always seems to get banged up.QUOTE]
exactly, durability means **** tons in the NFL. I love MJD, i love the way he runs, i think he is top 3 all day every day.......... until he gets banged up.
Has Thomas Jones ever been hurt, if he has I don't remember it, and how many yards has he ran for he is probably getting up there now in career yards, He is still the best high school player I ever seen play.
If TJ has 3 more years like this he will move into the top 20 all time leading rushers in the NFL
Wow, not bad for a SW Va. guy is it.
if the cards fall right, thomas jones could be a HOF'er
i highly highly doubt it, but i would love to see it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
No need to doubt. If he crosses 10000 yards I would say he's about a lock.
1 pro bowl, no ring, only broken 10 tds twice in his career, 64 td's (he should get plenty more though) i just dont see HOF status, a good running back? yes, a GREAT leader? yes no doubt. a HoF'er..... i just dont see itQuote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
Name another 10000 yard back not in the HOF that hasn't been eligible.
name one that isnt a multiple pro bowler?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
listen, im not Anti TJ, ive actually met him quite a few times, talked to him on the phone before, he is pretty good friends with my cousin, i like the guy...... i just honestly dont think he has the stats. he may end up with the stats, id like to see him not get shafted on anymore pro bowl selections, hell id like to see him win a superbowl. id like to see him get over 10 Td's again.
John RigginsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
ummmm yeah but he has other credentials.................give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
you need a list of records?
Oldest player to rush for 150+ yards in a game: 35 years, 71 days
Oldest player to rush for 3 touchdowns in a game: 36 years, 70 days
Oldest player to have a game with 100+ rushing yards & 1 rushing touchdown: 36 years, 84 days
Oldest player to have 30+ rushing attempts in a game: 36 years, 84 days
Oldest player to rush for 100+ yards in a playoff game: 34 years, 157 days(breaking his own record he set one week earlier)
Oldest player to rush for 150+ yards in a playoff game: 33 years, 179 days
Oldest player to rush for 175+ yards in a playoff game: 33 years, 164 days
Most rushing attempts after 35th birthday: 503 - broken by Marcus Allen who finished with 537
Most rushing touchdowns after 35th birthday: 22 - broken by Marcus Allen who finished with 25
Most rushing yards after 35th birthday: 1,916 - broken by Marcus Allen who finished with 2,225
Most 100 yard rushing games after 35th birthday: 8
Most games with 2+ rushing touchdowns after 35th birthday: 4 - broken by Marcus Allen who finished with 5
Most games with 20 rushing attempts after 35th birthday: 11
Oldest player to have 300+ rushing attempts in a season: 35
Oldest player to have 1,200 rushing yards in a season: 35
Oldest player to have 10+ rushing touchdowns in a season: 35
Oldest player to score 20+ touchdowns in a season: 34
Oldest player to have 350+ rushing attempts in a season: 34
Oldest player to have 1,300 rushing yards in a season: 34
Oldest player to have 20+ rushing touchdowns in a season: 34
Most rushing attempts after 30th birthday: 1,510
Most rushing touchdowns after 30th birthday: 71
Most rushing yards after 30th birthday: 5,683 - broken by Emmitt Smith who finished with 5,789
Most games with 20 rushing attempts after 30th birthday: 36
Most games in the postseason of 100+ yards rushing: 6 - broken by Emmitt Smith and Terrell Davis who each posted 7
Most rushing yards in a Super Bowl: 166 - broken by Marcus Allen (191) and Timmy Smith (204)
Most touchdowns in a season: 24 - broken by several players since
Most rushing touchdowns in a season: 24 - broken by several players since
You asked for a question and you got an answer. I'm sorry you thought your question was unanswerable. If TJ retires tomorrow, he's not a HOFer. If he gets to 10,000 yards theres a pretty good possibility he breaks alot of those stats that you just listed for Riggins too.
i didnt think it was unanswerable, i knew for a fact riggins didnt have it but dear god the things he did during his time were unbelievable. riggins also has almost 13500 yards, i dont see jones getting 1000 yards in 4 more seasons. its not that he CANT do it, its that no team he has been with or will be with will let him do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
btw im not trying to brag or anything, but there probably isnt a stat/record in the NFL that i cant name off the top of my head or dont have a link to in my favorites. the thing that will kill TJ is that he was NEVER the best back in the league, he wont get an MVP, the system he is in wont allow him anymore pro bowls or any more high TD seasons. He is in a losing battle. Thing about it is though, his whole situation in his career is what has kept up his longevity, not playing much early on has saved his body unlike most RB's
Although only LT has been a more productive back combined in the past 4 years. Curtis Martin has been in the same boat IMO, but he will get there next year too.
Actually TJ went ahead of him last year in yardage over the last 4-5 years. LT may go back ahead this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
? curtis martin is the 4th leading rusher of all time and a 5x pro bowler if he doesnt get there something is bad wrong. had 10 1000 yard seasons in a row. I mean, thomas will get the yards man but this is the HoF, he should have a little boot to go with it. I guess we just absolutely arent on the same page here. his career TD count is a little low, 1 pro bowl, no rings, no all pro selections, I WILL say this, IF***** he hits the 100 td 10000 yard mark he WILL be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
If that sack of used tampons (Eddie George) ever gets in and TJ doesn't, it'll be one of the biggest crocks of **** in HOF history. I cant believe people actually mention that turd as a posibility.
only thing going for him OVER tj is his pro bowl selections. besides that TJ should get in over him any day. he will have more yards and SHOULD end up with more td's. eddie george's YPC also sucked ass if im not mistaken i know it was under 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
Yet Curtis Martin is still overlooked as one of the best backs in NFL history. It wouldn't shock me if he doesn't get in next year even though I think he should be one of the top two voted in next year. Martin was never considered the best back while he was in the league, or won a rushing title that I can think of. Nor has any postseason stats that mean a hill of beans. Thats my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky
rookie of the year and led the league in rushing in either 03 or 04Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
He was in 04 after I looked it up. 03 was Jamal Lewis's monster year. So, 1 rushing title.
CJ or AP at 1 right now... You couldn't go wrong with either of them