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I was there, despicable actions.
I think some of Rivers' comments were reprehensible. Although, I am for consolidation, I also think that the threats got to Luntsford. Well, I guess all is over but for the SB to decide what they want to do. I don't particularly like the 2 on 1 site either. I just don't like all the kids on on campus. I wish they would have voted for a better plan, such as a 3 on 3 plan. If you are gonna spend that much money, then go ahead and build 3.:doh:
Now, how many studies, hearings, etc., will it take for everyone to agree on a site??????
I felt sorry for Fred Luntsford.
Random Thoughts on This:
If you have the ability to buy property, go to Norton and buy, buy, buy!
Lundsford and Shortt will lose re-election by a landslide if anybody runs against them.
J.H., Betty, Ted, and Virginia all have seen the last of their good days in Big Stone Gap politics.
30 years from now the entire county (minus Wise do the college) will be like Webber City and Lynn Garden, just a bump in the road to get to the real town.
The towns of Appalachia, Coeburn, and Pound will for all economic purposes cease to exist in my lifetime.
Did Fred vote for the 2 on 1 site. And if he did, what kind of logic is that. You face closure, period, so, instead of busing your kids 2 miles to Big Stone, you send them 15 miles up the mountain thru the fog. Thats real intelligent. All I can say is that when, and it will be when, some kid gets killed on the way to school, because of the fog, then its all on those who voted for this nonsense. Looks like Lee High will benefit from this. Just 2 miles to the Lee line to catch a bus.
Fred voted for 2 on 1. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't see some type of action taken by Big Stone Gap to attempt to retain a school. (Not saying I agree or disagree with this)
Fred Luntsford votes for the "we suffer, you suffer" plan. He won't have to deal with the backlash cause he's already bought a beachhouse in SC so he can hightail it out of here.
He wont be the only one hightailing it out of Wise County.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter
What all did Rivers say? He makes me sick listening to him half of the time.
Coalfield.com - Supervisors vote to fund two schools on one site
Its supposed to be free to look at.
In all seriousness, does anybody think multiple schools on one site is a good idea?
I don't even think the 5 who voted for that crap think it is. It's all about making a statement that they arent gonna suffer alone. ****ing ridiculous.
After all the fussing, maneuvering, motions and counter motions from this meeting, the only thing the BOS could technically vote for or against was the funding. All the talk of "2 on 1", etc. is simply a request or suggestion and is not binding in any way upon the SB. The SB can now decide what plan is selected going forward with the now approved funding. Tonight's SB meeting should be another doozy.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
In my opinion and probably most others, the multiple school on one site is by no means the "best solution", but it is a "doable" one. I believe most people would say "if it has to happen, they would rather have 3 separate schools on 3 neutral sites", but I doubt that will get done simply due to the additional costs involved.
This is just the beginning of the process folks. Tighten your seat belts and hang on. We are still in for a bumpy ride before all is said and done.
Why build a complex CAPABLE of housing X students and putting it in one place? How much more would it have cost to build 2 so studends have less of a drive time... Even if you put it in the VERY center of Wise Co. .... I think Making a "North" and "South" or an "East" and "West" would be more viable ... Maybe they voted to go with 2 on 1 site cause Norton said they'd consider jumping in on the fun if they do that.... I don't get the Benefit from having RIVAL schools right next to each other... Kids have your Cell Phones ready for some seriois Rival Fights Next day after school from heated games etc... I hate this idea... I think they got this stupid ass idea by going to Wal-Mart and saying WOAH.. there is a grocery store here.. 2 things .. in one place... HOLY **** I got a Swell Idea. Well ******* you don't ahve a swell idea its ****ing retarded... I think If John I. Burton joins in with 2 schools in one site i'll find somewhere upstate or in Tennessee to Take my 10 month old child. Im all for consolidation but having Rival Schools parking lots walking distance from each other I see no benefit from this and I feel sorry for the Kids who live up in Hollars in Pound back deep in South Fork, or Ignorant Fork (etc) and the Kids down in Exceder(sp?) and beyond in appalachia. I feel for these kids thats a long way to go to school.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
I've ranted long enough... can anyone point out a legit benefit to having 2 Rivals 1 Site?
They wont be rivals, they will take class together. As I've mentioned on here before, we now have to much pride in our communities and schools. When this passes, we will have no pride or sense of ownership. You tell me which is worse.
Im finding me a nice suburb of Cincinnati to move to...
With the way this country is going in terms of income and education gap it's really not that bad of an idea to put your kids in some type of private school. Just my .02 cents.
Fred wanted all six High Schools left open and repaired but the school board had already said no to that many times. It's not fair for Appy and Pound to have their schools closed and all other towns to remain open. Closing you school dosen't feel to good right now does it? Now you know what we the people of Appy and Pound went through. J H Rivers done everything he could do to shut us down and keep PV open. Two weeks ago JH and Betty switched back to the other side to let Appy and Pound close as long as PV kept their school. I support Fred and Ronnie for what the done!!!!!
as someone from Norton it is sad to think John I Burton will not be around anymore. I'm not going to pitch a fit over it though. Better School for my child trumps being a Raider. She will be upset not going to see the Raider's and wearing the Orange - White & Black but she will be going to a new school, a school that isn't falling apart (years down the road). So, Yes, it is sad to think of JIB not existing anymore but I'm ok with it.
It's time for Appalachia and Pound to quit playing persecuted all the time. You guys wanted your school open for ATHLETIC traditions and many refuse to send their kids to school with PV because of an ATHLETIC rivalry. It's even more unfair for stubborn attitudes keeping their kids in a school that is falling apart as opposed to a newer, better building, and a school that could possibly have a wider ACADEMIC curriculum.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
The county can't afford to keep 6 schools anymore. It's not about losing your school either. The 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 plans are absurd. WHy don't they go with the original plan? 3 schools on 3 sites. The reason many Appalachia folks oppose consolidation is because they are too hung up on that athletic tradition and they hate Powell Valley. The reason Pound doesn't want to consolidate is because they hate JJ Kelly. Those are very poor reasons to oppose it. Not one of those two reasons puts the students' education first. That's sad. If you want to think about athletics, then athletics at both Pound and Appalachia have been falling apart.
Let go of the ATHLETIC tradition and the ATHLETIC rivalry and think about the ACADEMIC benefits of this. If you can give me one academic reason as to why consolidation is bad then I can respect your position. If all you're going to do is play like Appalachia and Pound are always the victim or even mention athletics then I can't respect your position.
I'm curious... doesn't anyone teach SPORTSMANSHIP down that way?
I rem. reading on a forum a couple of years ago about the Pennington-Jonesville MS kids and parents saying they shouldn't play each other... even thought they would be CLASSMATES in a couple of years. Wonder why Lee is so bad? Those kids were TAUGHT to hate each other. Team? Not hardly.
Let's remember one VERY important thing... IT'S ONLY A GAME, people.
Here's an idea.... Va. allows private schools and charter schools. All the parents who don't want their kids to go to school with other kids from a few miles away, shut your yappin' and actually DO something ...start your own school. Even have a football team. There's a UET league you can play in (wait, I've actually not heard anything about it in the last couple of years, so it may not exist anymore). Name it Appalachia Private School and be the APS Bulldogs... and the Pound Community School Wildcats. Or start a Montessori School... Lee Co. has one. (oh, wait... they'd never be able to spell that... and I doubt most ppl. this side of I-77 know how to pronounce it. Nevermind.)
Oh, and welcome to the SWD. Enjoy those basketball trips to Hillsville.
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Originally Posted by collegetrumpet2010
Cry me a river!!!!! Appalachia is in better shape then PV send those kids up here. And as you say it's all about ACADEMICS,WHATS WRONG WITH THE 2 ON 1 PLAN? OH I KNOW IT'S NOT IN BIG STONE GAP. I SUPPORT THE 2 ON 1 PLAN.
Absolutely the reason the kids are going to be stuck in a school setup that is absurd is people like this. What these people don't realize is that regardless of what plan was chosen, Appy and Pound don't have their school. Absolutely none. So to choose a plan that punishes your OWN children, just to be spiteful and because you can't look past "I don't wanna be no dang Viking", is pathetic at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
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Originally Posted by Shooter
How is a 2 on 1 punishing our kids????
If you can't understand that, then you only reinforce my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
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Originally Posted by Shooter
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I couldn't care any less about where the school is. As long as it is not a huge travel issue. Oh wait, the 2 on 1 site is. Appalachia and BSG are basically 4 miles apart. How can travelling over 15 to 20 minutes on the four lane benefit the students academically? PV and Appy students shouldn't have to travel 15 to 20 miles up the four lane to go to school.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
How is Appalachia High in better shape than PV? Why should we send 500 to 600 students to a school holding a maximum of an estimated what 250? You just "don't wanna be no dang Viking!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone" or you don't want to give up the ATHLETIC tradition.
You're just supporting whatever it takes to prevent Appalachia kids from going to school with Powell Valley students. That's pathetic and childish. Grow up. Get over yourself.
**** D.J. you going balistic on him! It's cool!Quote:
Originally Posted by collegetrumpet2010
Appalachia and PV have the same SQ.footage.
The best thing to do was to fix all 6 of them up but every one was all gung ho to throw Appy and Pound under the bus to save their own school, and because of that we all lost our schools.
it seems to the rest of the population that the best solution was to close the schools in the worst location and with the smallest population, and build new schools at two locales to ease on travel time, athletics consideratoin, etc...
ill never understand how two schools at one location that creates all sorts of travel time is a better solution than on two separate ends to reduce travel time and size in one place.
i just cant figure it out.
i understand the financial considerations, but is this really the best solution?
i dont think the powers in charge spent enough time really deciphering the best solution. either way, im not sure this is the right plan of action
They already own land at Powell Valley and at the Vocational school. This has nothing to do with money, it is a political agenda.
ha
so its not even cheaper to build the moronic 2-1 idea?
so can ANYONE explain to me how this is the best solution overall?
You wont even get the satisfaction of voting the current representatives out of office. The board of supervisors and the school board do not want anybody to have any ownership or identity in the school in which serves the youth of the community that you live in. I don't support this plan but I hope it works, if not we will be the laughing stock of the world and that is something that I do not want. I stated this on the OTC but I really feel like they need to make one of the schools a magnet school.
A magnet school would boost our education while providing parents a school that is well equipped to meet the needs of their gifted child. We currently do not have this in the county and are sponging off MECC and UVa-Wise.
Political? Probably more financial, as in from whose close buddy is the land going to be purchased from IMO. That's how lots of things have been determined around here in the past....just follow the money to get the answers. Seems to be a recurring trend in government dealings.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
If the City does come along I would think the athletic facilities at JIB and JJK would probably be the selected due to close proximity along with some type of practice fields actually constructed at the new main campus to help limit travel off campus as much as possible.
In a perfect world, everyone would get what they want, but that's just not possible. I personally like one of the separate neutral sites models best, but this may be the best we can hope for -- at least something appears to finally be possible. I don't know if it will work or not, but I'm hoping & praying that it will.
This guy just keeps on proving the point of how we get stuck with a crap idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
This is not why we ALL lost our schools, Appy and Pound were gone...regardless. Do you not understand that? The fact you fail to realize, is if Appy, Pound and St. Paul would have got on board, using some common sense, long ago, then we would ALL have 3 new schools close to home by now, instead of this disaster waiting to happen 2-on-1 crap.
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Originally Posted by pvfan
will be? that area already is
If you're going to fix up 6 high schools that we can no longer afford then you might as well consolidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgman
bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter