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for winning his last game at Bullit Park. Right now the guy is 307-150-4 and has a winning percentage of over 60 % (stats from a guy on the radio). I've got problems with the guy and don't think he's the worlds best person but congrats to him on a good run. Everyone else can post the b.s. below about having talent, ect. but I've saw tons of coaches do nothing with talent. Congrats to one of the best coaches ever to coach in the area.
He had a long stint and did well. However did you notice tonight during the presentation hardly no one was clapping for him during the presentation? Why do you feel like that is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
Wasn't there. The reason for that would be too many morons that he spoiled for 20+ years.
It could have been a number of things including disapproval, who knows? What do you mean by "morons he spoiled"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
Those morons are the same ones who praised him as God 15 years ago to treating him like dirt and trying to run him out of town the last 5-6.
You could be right on that one. I felt that he use to have some support, but it seems now he only has a handful. What could be some reasons for this in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
I clapped and am sad to see him go, I wish he'd hang on until they closed the school. People at PV are spoiled, go watch other local high school games and tell me Phil isn't still one of the best.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think Phil has more LPD titles as a coach than any other school has. He's won 15, CW is the only school that could be close and I don't think they have won but 13?
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Originally Posted by Ironlung
I hit on this point after the PV-JIB game along with Rocky. Glad to see that others see it too:2thumbsup:
I agree he is and was a good coach as far as the game, but sometimes other things are as important or maybe more important. Structure of the team seems to be declining over the years and maybe his relationships as well. What do you contribute it to?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
You were the one that said it was declining, not me. If he scheduled like others in this district he would be 7-3 or 8-2 this year. I doubt you would comment about the structure of the team then.Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
Why does coaching always have to be based on the number of titles someone has rusting in their trophey case? I agree that titles are the goal here, but we must remember Mr. Robbins never played one down of football, the kids did. I sometimes think coaches get to much credit and glory and ride on teh tailcoats of athletes, do you agree with this?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
No, I don't agree with it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
Do you feel as though PV has a sound structure? I agree they play a tough schedule, harder than anyone else that could be considered, that is not the issue here. The issue is things in behind scenes sometimes fall apart based upon expectations of a coach. It starts with little things and doing them right and being consistant, this is what makes for a good coach, not only how many games good athletes can win for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
Do you feel like they practice hard? Is it normal for kids to be goofing off during practice and taking their helmets off and sitting on the ground? Is it normal not to be doing a lot of weight lifting? Is it normal to blame athletes and coaching staff when you are losing? Is it normal to go out to the practice field only 1 sometimes 2 days per week in full padsQuote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
Are you saying it is okay to call Richlands Head coach the greatest coach ever considering the talent he has?Do you not feel like the athletes on that team deserve some credit?
I think they have got a great structure. It's hands down the best single A football program in the state. They have more coaches than almost anybody, they have top of the line equipment, and the most equiped weight room for any public school in the country that has 600 students or less. What do you think is wrong with the structure?
I've not been to a practice since I played my last game so I don't know what they do at practice now. When I played we had countless practices that were over at 5:15 and we won 35 games in four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
Refer to post 15. And none of the above makes up for the lack of what I am talking about. Also, PV assistant coaches arent allowed to coach, you know that beings you are a die hard PV fan, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
If I had a clue what you were talking about I might be able to respond. I've got an idea but you are just beating around the bush as oppossed to just coming out and saying it. Are you referencing the 05-08 seasons?
It doesnt matter how long you practice, it matters what you do at practice, it seems the team you played on did well at practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
No, I am referencing what goes on in the last few years, there is no structure at practices. i expressed in detail in post 15. I am not beating around any bush. Good teams are made when they have discpline on and off the field and they give 100% at practice and are made to do so. Do you feel like it is possible to half do something and then go out on Friday night and win games? Do you feel like PV's offensive line is strong?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
I feel like we have the second best team in the region at the division 2 level. So, in comparison to that, yes they are strong. What are you doing going to practice anyway? You either play, have a child that plays, are a part of the staff, or are a weirdo.
I do not go watch them, you would be surprised how fast talk gets around of what goes on. I thought you being a PV fan and all you would keep up? I have been around a long time, my intentions is not to hate, but shed truth on what the problem is and why he has no support now. Does this upset you? No one is trying to make you not like him, ok? I do not have a child that plays, I am not part of the staff, I do however have close friends that are, and I would not consider myself to be a weirdo, why would you suggest that?Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
So, we are going on hearsay? Never mind, I just figured out who you are. No need to continue, you hate Phil.
Not many claps during the ceremony is most likely because the PV side bleachers had half the people it usually has even for this year.
The sources are good ones and I got confirmation by riding by there. I do not hate anyone, I give Mr. Robbins props. You do not know who i am you are silly. There is no need to get mad at what I am stating, cheer up. I would never reveal my name on the internet, come on. Sir please stop trying to make this personal, if you do not agree with what I am saying then present proof to discredit it. It is simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
because the park was almost empty?Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
but people are absolute ****!ng morons and do not know a great situation when they see one.
I was working on a congrats Phil thread, but ill just post my thoughts here.
Phil Robbins, the most successful coach in Lonesome Pine District history, coached his last home game as a Powell Valley Viking at Bullitt Park in Big Stone Gap, Virginia tonight. Taking on the Pound Wildcats, Robbins' Vikings jumped out to a 21-7 lead and rode the early momentum to a 48-21 win. But this game was more important than a 3-5 team taking on a 1-7 team, two sub .500 teams competing for a Lonesome Pine District victory(although thats slightly misleading, Powell Valley is still very alive in the playoff scenario). This game signaled the end of an era for all that have followed Powell Valley football. Taking over an upstart program on the rise from coach James Bolling, Phil Robbins came into Big Stone as an unknown and an outsider. But unbeknown to the people of the tiny southwestern Virginia town, a dynasty was born. After taking over a team that in 1982 that had won a state championship, Robbins turned a smaller, successful football team into the most dominant force in the areas history. 1983, Robbins' first year behind the helm, his Vikings finished the regular season unbeaten and won a region championship, only to fall to Perry -McClure in the state semi-finals. With the loss in the semi-finals fueling Robbins and the team, the Vikings followed up a successful 1984(8-2, missed playoff cut by a blade of Robbins' beloved Bermuda grass) season with a magnificent run to a state title in 1985. The 1985 state championship game saw the Vikings of Powell Valley take on Lunenburg Central, and Robbins win his first state title as the Vikings won a classic showdown 28-27 in one of the greatest Virginia High School League championship games ever.
From that season on, the ball kept rolling.
Beginning in 1989 and running to 1998, Robbins led his Vikings to an incredible six state titles in 10 seasons, a run never before seen in the Lonesome Pine District, including three times going back-to-back state titles (1989-90, 1994-95, 1997-98, a run of four state titles in five seasons). While the Powell Valley program began its ascent to the top in 1985, the Vikings claimed the throne with a dominant run in the 1990's.
After completing their second straight state title run and three titles in five years in 1990 with another win over Lunenburg Central, the Viking had become the most a true juggernaut of Virgina high school football. But the run was far from over.
As a skinny freshman stepped onto the practice field in 1992, no one ever dreamed of the highs that awaited the young team. A once-in-a decade player paired with an offensive coach who could turn good talent into great talent. Jones took over as the Viking starter two years later in 1994, and the duo never looked back.
After starting the 1994 season 1-2 with losses to Lee High and Richlands, the Vikings went on a tear of 24 straight wins and two state titles, and getting two straight wins over rival Appalachia, another state title contender in the mid 90s.
During Jones' final two seasons as a Viking, he put on some of the most unbelievable performances in VHSL history, including his famous performance against John I. Burton in 1994, which saw Jones rush for a state-record 462 yards. Jones was named VHSL Player of the Year back to back in 1994-95, and would move on from the Viking program to great heights. After having his pick of scholarship offers, Jones graduated from the University of Virginia while setting numerous rushing records for the football team and being invited to the Heisman Trophy ceremony. Eventually drafted with a top 10 draft pick by the Arizona Cardinals, Thomas Jones has became one of the most productive backs in NFL history, closing in on 10,000 career yards and a shot at the Professional Football Hall of Fame. Powell Valley won two state titles back to back in 1994, defeating -95, adding two more rings to Robbins' evergrowing collection of state titles, which had by then grew to 5. But as many predicted Robbins' run as top dog to be over, another skinny freshman joined the team and Robbins began what could quite possibly be the most dominant two year run in Region D history.
In 1997, when Julius Jones, the younger brother of Thomas and another elite prospect, took over as the Viking starter at halfback, the Vikings began a two-year run of complete dominance. Starting with the first game of the 1997 season, Coach Robbins led his Vikings to a record 28 straight wins, including two wins in state championship games. Many people in the area still tout the 1998 Powell Valley squad as the best football team to ever set foot on a field in southwest Virginia. Boasting a lineup full of stars to compliment the running of Jones, the 1998 team went all season only allowing one play over 10 yards from the line of scrimmage in the regular season , a show of complete defensive dominance. As the 1998 season ended with a two touchdown victory over Madison County, Phil Robbins had amassed 7 state titles in 14 years, four titles in seven years, and 6 titles in ten years.
To put some things in perspective, here are some stats (I cannot find yardage stats. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would be forever grateful):
1997
501 points scored-----123 points allowed (14 games)
(+378)
36 ppg-----8.8 ppg allowed
(+27.2)
339-vs. district opponents points scored------95 against (8 games)
(+244)
42 ppg-----11.9 ppg
1998
601 points for-----153 (14)
(+448)
43 ppg-----11 ppg against
(+32)
325 points vs. district opponents-----68-against (7)
(+257)
46 ppg-----9.7 ppg against
While Robbins was never able to win another state title, coming the closest in 2004 when his Vikings fell to Manassas Park in the state title game, he had the joy of coaching all three of his sons (Wes, Andy, and Brad, the quarterback of the last PV state title contender in 2004) and amass a record unmatched by any other local coach. The Virginia High School league Hall of Famer will retire with a record of 307-150-4 and 9 state title rings (He won two more as the coach of the Viking track team), 12 Region D championships and 15 LPD championships, winning games at an absolutely astounding 67% winning percentage. While the area has produced such famous coaches as Jim Riggs, Ralph Cummins, and Tom Turner, no coach can match Robbins' state title wins or other records. So the win against the Wildcats tonight was much, much more than a win over a district rival. It signaled the end of an era, the end of the greatest dynasty in SWVA history and the end of the most prolific coach in the region's reign of dominance.
So congratulations Coach, we will never forget your contributions to Big Stone Gap and the Powell Valley Vikings athletics department. We will miss ya coach, gotdangitjibberyaish brad!
and valour, SHUT THE **** UP! jesus f'n christ. this is a congrats phil thread and all you can do is ***** and moan. GTFO out of this thread. get over it. Phil is a great coach, one of the best ever in this area.
and THE STANDS WERE NOT 3/4 FULL. LIE
PV's stands were not even half full, much less 3/4's.
If i read what you typed correctly you are saying it is due to not having a lot of fans there? I disagree, the stands were well over 3/4 full. Also it looks like all the fans would have come out to support his big night, right? Now, Pound only had around 40 maybe or so fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milk3
I'm not going to tell everyone who you are so calm down. I'm not trying to make it personal and am not going to, I respect your right to privacy, although I think it's pretty bad an employee of PVHS would get on here and act like this. Take care man, I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this subject.
Are you stating I am a PVHS employee? LOL, sir I work on the Rail Road. You are mistaken. How exactly am I acting? I seem to hold the opposite opinion that you hold, that is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by pvfan
If you count the band then yea it was 3/4 full. Plus this happened at 7:15. I saw more than a few people not come in until 745 or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
Just in time to miss the presentation? Surely not?? Just teasing, but there did not seem to be a lot of support. The band sits in the same space every home game..Quote:
Originally Posted by Milk3
i dont care what any of the morons in big stone think, Phil is the greatest coach to ever grace PV and possibly the LPD.
Even in the last few years, with PV being really devoid of talent, he took the team to the playoffs every year and always finished with a non-losing record.
to be able to get a piece of the LPD title last year was one of Phil's best coaching jobs.
Even without NFL talent, Phil won 3 state titles, played in four, and took bad teams a long way.
So, congrats Phil, and thank you for everything you did for the PV program.
Some fans may take shots or not realize just how much you did, but everybody with any piece of a brain at all knows how much you will be missed.
Anyway after all that the man deserves some props, I am going to miss Phil. He probably hung on a couple of years too long but he was going for 300 wins, he deserved the chance to get that after putting PV on the football map. It was almost unnoticed till he got there. He is just another in a long line of great SW Va. coaches. He joins Fry, Cummings, Turner, Carlock, Colobro. He did alot for football in Va. and the Hall of Fame noticed and even down thirty points to GC a couple of Fridays ago he was still coaching. Enjoy retirement and good luck to the next in line because you are going to need it. I think the number is eight, that's the number of coaches Alabama has had since Bear Bryant retired.
Congrats to Coach Robbins on wonderful career! One of the greatest HS football coaches of all time. :2thumbsup:
http://www.sevensidedcube.net/wp-con...ads/pacman.pngThey probably did. The teams he played on also had some talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by valour
Phil Robbins is a legend. You don't get to be one by just luck. Like a lot of legendary coaches, he is going to have people who don't like him. Biggest reason is that a strong willed coach will make some people mad. They tend to go with what they think is best, and over time, smaller areas, you are going to tick the wrong people off and your best supporters become some of your least supporters. It happens. I don't think Phil was the God of coaching, but he did control his team, he maximized the talent he had and won more than about anybody. Best I know on Phil, you can love him to death or hate him but it's a fairly thin line between the two. He's brash, ****y, and it has been well proven, sometimes speaks with that tone, maybe not trying to be politically correct. You want to know why his support has left? Probably that as much as anything. He was around when a coach could push the kids, tell them they sucked, was able to discipline them, and was able to control the kids, and knew the kids would get it twice as bad when they got home by their parents for being, for lack of a better word, jerks. He's tried his same style, but the world and the way too many kids are now, has changed. You tell a kid he sucks now, instead of the kid trying to prove you wrong, and wanting to not suck, they just quit, go complain to mommy and daddy who instead of telling them to buck up and show him different, scream about how bad a coach is for saying that. Phil has changed his style to try and maximize the talent he has had the last few years, and played a very tough schedule, when he could have done the same as other schools, found a way to cakewalk through the year, maybe got a few more regular season wins, got in the playoffs and had that trophy to brag about. He didn't schedule with the idea of just making it, he scheduled if the talent would work and break through, to actually win something. As for the workouts, the practice schedules, what they do, don't do. I don't know what he does or doesn't do but maybe he realizes he has kids who don't have the desire to be there, the want to be better and after you lead horses to water so many times and they don't drink, you do get a bit tired of trying to lead them. So as much as I'll sometimes down Phil Robbins, afterall I'm from a program that reguarly squared off in big games with them and seen them get the breaks, I respect what he did. Did he have some awesome talent? Absolutely. There was also times when the talent wasn't worlds better or was even worse and he made those kids and the fans believe they were better than they were. He and his staff could find the weak links as well as anybody and exploit them. So maybe he's lost the 'edge' near the end, maybe he couldn't motivate the players like he could in the past, or maybe he even lost touch with trying. I don't believe that to be the case. I think he reached a point where his old school style was effective still but too many would rather listen to the 'generation of greatness' in the stands, and not him. Maybe PV could put someone in who is a bit more PC, someone who can massage the new generation and get a bit more work out of them, but anybody who knows Phil, knows he loves, loves to win. If you don't think he would do just about anything to win, you're crazy. So, yeah over time, he probaby lost support. The old saying you don't know what you got till it's gone tends to apply I think.
Yall be nice to Michael Kennedy.
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Originally Posted by Ironlung