I know there are more bowtie fans here, but c'mon, ya gotta admit this still is pretty nice...
1968 Ford Mustang fastback 427
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I know there are more bowtie fans here, but c'mon, ya gotta admit this still is pretty nice...
1968 Ford Mustang fastback 427
How could you not like any 427 dual quad 4-speed. But $70 grand I think he is asking a bit much for a Ford. ;)
I'm a VW man and a bowtie man, It's a nice stang thats for sure but Like AB said 70,000 is a bit steep.
You couldn't build an aluminum 427 Camaro any cheaper.
I think you guys are behind on pricing. That's about right.
That must be an aftermarket motor. An original 427 side oiler would pretty much command the 70K by itself without a car attached. i ain't no Ford expert, but i know where the big money is, and is not(anywhere in my vicinity).:D
Edit:while i'm rather fond of Cragar S/S's, i think at the 70k level i'm gonna have to see the correct rally rims with proper trim and a decent matching paint scheme on them.
I used to build 427 Cobra kit cars. Always used a side oiler in them stroked with a 428 crank. They were getting hard to find then and I had to source the various parts vs a "crate" motor. Tunnel ram manifold is useless for the street-medium riser was the way to go. 2-4's were a bit better than a single quad but for all practical purposes were more for bling than performance. Most of the race cars used a single. I like bling so I used the duals.
That ain't a tunnel ram, you are very confused about this car. A tunnel port is something VERY different. Nascar motor.
Ford 427 Tunnel Port
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Here is a Tunnel port Shelby launching...
http://www.jbaheaders.com/assets/ima.../gt500e_bo.jpg
A car like this is not built for practicality BTW.
Most likely it's Dove stuff but probably a 50k motor in that car.
I the classic sense i agree, but technically it might qualify if it's a fully open plenum design.Quote:
That ain't a tunnel ram,
What "we" consider a tunnel ram doesn't fit under a hood.
I'd absolutely wager that low end throttle response and streetability positvely suck with that combination. WOT up on the cam might be a totally different experience however.:D
210's in a living room might not be practical either, but we do it.
My old 8x10 camera is a pain to lug around, but if you have to ask why, ya just don't get it...
Some guys climb Mt Everest for recreation...not me.
I'm willing to make concessions about low end response, a Nascar motor is designed to operate at WOT. But the motor is big enough I'm sure it's drivable.
We nutzoid males do a lot for a few seconds of bliss...
My idea of a daily driver would be an original z/28. Very tractable, yet strong when you want it.
OTOH, give me a choice between it and a 427 Tripower Stingray. Yer gonna find I ain't a practical man.
And that's what it is all about for me. From a standing stop to 100 mph in a few seconds.It's all about the TORQUE for me !!! :D
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Me neither ,I don't need to climb some 5 mile mountain and freeze my but off !
My neighbor had a 1969 Stingray 427 tri-power.One of the nicest cars I have ever seen.I spent many a night working on that car. :2thumbsup: I was just a teenager then, 435 hp It was a blue silver metallic color. Awesome !Quote:
OTOH, give me a choice between it and a 427 Tripower Stingray. Yer gonna find I ain't a practical man
Fer me the 69 don't get it. Has to be one of these:
1967 427 435 Corvette $139,900 Ron Romero 513 314 3149 - a set on Flickr
Never liked the Mako vettes as much.
But for 139 grand I could buy ...
It doesn't make sense for me to buy something pristine. I'm gonna drive it not store it...
See I'm not that picky when it comes to a 427 tri-power tuned to perfection 4-speed :cool:. If you don't know by now the world is full of personal preferences.After all why do you think there are Fords,and JBL's :D
In that style body corvette I would prefer the '63 split window small block 327
[QUOTE=Old Guy;1847011]That ain't a tunnel ram, you are very confused about this car. A tunnel port is something VERY different. Nascar motor.
Seems to me that Tunnel Port describes the heads, not the intake manifold. Pictures are too blurry to see what the manifold looks like.
Still a cool car.
Ron
We're not all ford and chevy lovers, some of us do like our GTXs and Superbirds. ;)
[quote=RonSSS;1847049] The ports were developed for the SOHC 427. When Nascar outlawed the SOHC Ford tried to adapt the port style to the pushrod motor.
The pushrod goes up the center of the manifold intake port inside a pressed in tube. The combination of that routing in the manifold and the big round ports is what makes a "tunnel port" motor.
http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/images/...ntake-port.jpg
http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/images/427tp-intake.jpg
http://www.wrljet.com/fordv8/images/427tp-intake-2.jpg
There was also a tunnel port 302, very,very rare. And a SOHC 302 that AFAIK never was released.
Whoa!!!
I cant be missing out on the car thread! C4 Corvette here.
What do you guys have? :Auto:
I recently bought a 2000 Mustang, a V6 coupe with five speed. Never did the muscle car thing in my youth, now I see what all the fuss was about. Only 190 hp, but it's fast enough to scare me. Looking for excuses now to drive places, for the first time in thirty years at least.
Ahhh the golden age of "muscle cars." In hindsight I should've bought up Chevrolet 396/427 porcupine head big blocks, Dodge hemi 426s, and of course Ford 427s, I would probably be a rich man today. I long for the old days of Pontiac Tri-Power, 2-4 BBL Carters & Holleys, etc
I bought a 62 vette in 1969 and had for about 15 years, the last incarnation had a 365 horse 327 and a 2:2 Muncie with 4:11 rear end.
Fast forward to today ... 2 months ago I got a 2010 Z06 vette. Now you talk about torque this baby has it and 505hp on an Aluminum frame. That real giddy-up!
Saaaweet Will !!!!!!!! Back in the day I had to give up those muscle cars.Waaaay too many speeding Tickets !! I can't own a car like that and not take it on the highway and open er up.And the tires on those cars lasted me a couple months and they would be bald.
Family friend has one, he says "i stop for tires and check the gas". I understand that this car is capable of exceptional fuel economy, especially considering it's performance level.Quote:
2 months ago I got a 2010 Z06 vette. Now you talk about torque this baby has it and 505hp on an Aluminum frame. That real giddy-up!
I can tell you for a fact they do get unbelievable mileage for what they can do! Unless you get a lead foot its not working at all. About 1200 rpms @ 60.
Bowtie.... are you fortunate enough to have a 427? Buddy had a 67 L88 Corvette with 560 HP (rather rare). We didnt know it was special.... It didnt even have a radio from the factory. Heater and a key. Worth $$$$ now.
He sold it back then for $2500.00 and I couldnt afford it... :(
That thing could nail you to the seat in a straight line. :D
Sadly, no muscle cars here since the very early 90's. Sold the last of my parts stash in '98 to buy my first PC, then found out about ebay and the value of what i "gave away" years prior. My 427 car was a '67 Impala Super Sport, then a '70 chevelle w/open chamber LS-7 454, and my last street toy was a '69 SS Nova original 396 car w/an unknown build solid lift 454. The nova was twisting itself apart, and i was truly no longer interested in wrenching on cars so down the road it went.Quote:
Bowtie.... are you fortunate enough to have a 427?
I was lucky enough to have older brothers with the muscle car bug that i got to experience a lot of the best GM and Mopar had to offer from the golden era at one point or another. I was not old enough to drive the Hemi Challenger or the Superbird, but still have many fond memories. The Superbird i am told is currently undergoing a proper restoration including replacement of the original aluminum nose, my bro bought it wrecked and as his grocery clerk budget dictated, he put it back together with a satellite front clip. Here's a couple ooooooold pics for the Mopar lovers. I didn't get to drive any of those, but got to wash em all many times.:D
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I have two older brothers too.Know the feeling, as they are close in age, but a lot older than I.I can still smell the chamois and turtle wax.;)
Ok, I'm jealous. Quite a performance car for sure.
I rode in a buddys twin turbo 02 Vette a few weeks back. I bet yours is faster.
I drive an 06 Cobalt SS supercharged with a GM stage 2 upgrade. the Cobalt SS was also built by the GM performance group.
My other car is a street driven 69 nova with a 700hp 496 under the hood. More when I hit the button!
Ron
Guess I can chime in here. First car was a 1960 Belair two door post. It was a 283/Powerglide when I bought it. Sold it seven years later with a 12.0:1 350/Muncie 4-sp & 4.56:1. Obviously, gas was gas, and mileage wasn't a budget item.
Second car was a 1961 Impala 2 door bubble top. Factory solid cam 348 tri-power/4-sp.
Third was a 1968 Corvette 'vert, modded L-79 327/Muncie 4-sp/4.11:1.
For the past 23 years, I've been playing with a computer controlled EFI 1985 IROC-Z. Ditched the 305 it came with some 17 years ago. Replaced it with a stroked 350 (383). Rear has been a 3.70:1 Ford 9" since 1990. It passes the California sniffer every two years, and only see's about 400 miles a year now. There are no more drag strips within a reasonable distance anymore, but did manage a best 12.41 @ 111 in 2002 (last time out) on the motor. 11.37 @ 121 with a little laughing gas. Forged bottom, AFR 195's, Isky roller, lingenfelter intake.
My Altec's are much easier for me to drive nowadays. ;)
Now this is some real candy for me !:lollipop: Buddy of mine had one identical to this with a 409 dual quad but his was an SS .It was one of the nicest sounding engines I have ever heard.It left an indelible impression on me.He didn't baby it either, longest burn out I have ever seen.That car could burn rubber in any gear 1-4 :D :2thumbsup:
CarsOnline.com: Chevy Impala For Sale
About 69 or so I owned a similar but black Impala convertible
409 single 4. The old 409 was basically a truck motor, darn thing could pull tree stumps out of the ground.;)
And you sold it ! :( I guess I'm just jonesing to see some pictures,because it would sure put a smile on my face !:coffeedrinker:
OG add another 4bbl and you could pull M1A1 Abrams tanks out of the mud ! :D
Did someone say torque :2thumbsup: The 409 is my favorite Chevy motor followed by the 427 and then for sheer horsepower the Chrysler 426 Hemi ! Is what they use for top fuel dragsters/funny cars ! 5000 ponies under the hood. That was a fun car the (Impala) huh OG :cool: :lollipop:
Scanned some pics of my 62 from back in the day !
Willie
Remember you are talking to a guy who has been a car nut for over 5 decades...
That I can remember-close to order but remember my nym...
54 Ford coupe....my first car...bought it back a couple times, sold it at the end with a 335 HP 390...
55 Chevy sedan
56 Ford Victoria hardtop
57 Ford supercharged factory 300 HP 312
62 Chevy 409 'vert
58 Corvette with later 327
57 Olds J2 Tri-power
63 Pontiac Catalina, 421 Tripower
65 Galaxie vert 428 single quad swapped in
69 GTX 440 6-pack
67 Mustang 289 single quad
68 Mustang 428 Cobra Jet, one of the original handbuilt factory racers...sponsored by local Ford dealer, my best friend's uncle BTW
70 Barracuda 340
57 T-bird hardtop
Last nice car I had was a 67 Stang hardtop with a 390 small block stroker sold it a couple years back, I no longer drove it, to me it was a sin to let it sit.
Now? Old beat up Chevy truck and a minivan. Truck for out here on the farm, minivan to go to town, which is less and less often.
If I had that 440 GTX back I would probably kill myself in it...then again, I always liked James Dean...
After my last round of chemo, I got out on a high bank track with a friends racer and broke 150. Managed to avoid soiling myself but just barely. I'm too old for that stuff.
I keep it down to no more than 75 in 65 zones....:D
Edit: I know I'm forgetting. A 40 Ford coupe just popped into my head...not sure if it counts I never actually drove it...bought sans engine and sold partially done. I remember a Dodge Dart with a big motor...but it was almost 40 years ago.