why would JJ Kelly get a new school?
so looking at a new plan in the paper and listening to others on tv at these meeting why does everyone get renovated but JJ Kelly gets a new school? if renovations are the way to go then Kelly shouldn't be any better than the others right? maybe I'm just not seeing something, i'm confused!!!!!!! is there really any way that Kelly is in such awful shape but these other schools are not in the same shape. are they not the same age??
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This is what the whole thing has been about for the past 10 years, Wise getting a new school while the rest of the county eats their scraps.
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dawgman
This is what the whole thing has been about for the past 10 years, Wise getting a new school while the rest of the county eats their scraps.
This, I realized I couldn't beat them so I joined them. After living in Big Stone Gap and Appalachia I broke down and moved to Wise. It's time to live the high life boys. If I have kids they will get the best!
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J.J. Kelly is the oldest school and is in terrible shape. Admin. there has really neglected up keep.
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Ever seen JJK? If anyone needs a new school, it's the Wise area, JJK is probably the most run-down of them all. But I'd like for there to be 3 new schools, not JUST wise, but one definitely in Wise.
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It's turned into bowing down to Wise to keep the other schools open. It is pretty pathetic. It's all a big game with people waiting to stab each other in the back at every twist and turn. The idea of investing as much money in one of the smallest schools as you do the largest school when they are in equally poor shape is a joke. The smart thing to do is build two schools one in Big Stone Gap and one in Wise. However, nobody uses common sense because come hell or high water we want Bulldogs, Wildcats, Knights, Deacons, Vikings, and Indians. It's beyond embarassing, how people will children let this go on I will never understand.
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R13
Ever seen JJK? If anyone needs a new school, it's the Wise area, JJK is probably the most run-down of them all. But I'd like for there to be 3 new schools, not JUST wise, but one definitely in Wise.
I've been out high school for six years. When I was at PV, I took a class in a janitors closest, I took two classes at the same time without guidance finding out (one at MECC, I worked with the teacher to do work), and I took chemistry in a chemistry lab that was unusable. It was so bad that Virginia Tech had to send a huge truck down once a month for us just to do experiments. The AP History course I took was in a trailer parked out behind the high school. Even with all of that, I think the one that beats everything is the earth science class I took, that class was taught in the same area where I dressed for football practice. So, everybody needs a new school (minus St. Paul). It sickens me that the people from Big Stone Gap are perfectly fine with this, I guess there is more Appalachia in us than I thought.
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A joke. A big fat stinking joke.
F*** this mess, this schoolboard, and the idiots keeping us from just doing the right thing.
One school in the BSG/Appalachia area and one in the Wise area. Any other solution is STUPID.
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I took classes in a 50 year old building that had HVAC, and properly working equipment. For that I am thankful. Its sad that one county can take care of older building and keep them up to date, while another lets them regress to the point of it being cheaper to build half as many new as it is to fix them all. Much less when 3 schools is plenty for the county.
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1inStripes
I took classes in a 50 year old building that had HVAC, and properly working equipment. For that I am thankful. Its sad that one county can take care of older building and keep them up to date, while another lets them regress to the point of it being cheaper to build half as many new as it is to fix them all. Much less when 3 schools is plenty for the county.
We invest in important things. Football field houses!
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But it's not like these schools were designed to last any longer than they have now, when presenting the new schools they stated they were designed to last 50-70 years.
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My god that county is a **** mess.
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1inStripes
I took classes in a 50 year old building that had HVAC, and properly working equipment. For that I am thankful. Its sad that one county can take care of older building and keep them up to date, while another lets them regress to the point of it being cheaper to build half as many new as it is to fix them all. Much less when 3 schools is plenty for the county.
Scott County has done an excellent job of keeping GCHS, RCHS and TSHS in pretty good shape.
Reading the article in the Coalfield, I'm amazed at the bravado that Rivers, Luntsford and Cantrell have. If they're so concerned about school board matters, why don't they run for school board? Their 'conditions' as laid out in the article are ridiculous.
Pure logic dictates that the county can no longer continue to maintain six high schools with a declining population and declining tax base. The most logical solution would be to build three new schools in the three largest towns. Since we all know that won't fly (since the BoS is so scared of raising what is the lowest tax rate in the area), renovating the three largest schools and closing the three smallest schools would be the next best thing.
While Wise Co. certainly has the infrastructure in place to make two high schools a reasonable solution, three schools would probably be best.
I've given up hope of anything positive happening. The stupidity has worn me down. Just keep 'em all open.
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Ive screamed about logic for two years now but its painfully obvious the WCSB and BOS have absolutley no intention of using any sort of logic.
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I have no problem with raising my property taxes if the kids get new schools. Now, if they raise taxes to keep the kids in these old decrepit things that is a horse of a different color.
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pvfan
I have no problem with raising my property taxes if the kids get new schools. Now, if they raise taxes to keep the kids in these old decrepit things that is a horse of a different color.
This county could absorb a 25% increase in real estate taxes with no problem IMO. Sure there would be a lot of crying. 57 cents just isn't that high. Take a look at the surrounding tax rates.
Scott Co. assesses at 69 cents for real estate, Lee Co. at 75 cents, Russell Co. 61 cents, ****enson Co. 60 cents, Buchannan Co. 43 cents (probably not right, only number I could find via Google), Washington Co. 58 cents.
A 25% increase for Wise Co. would result in a rate of 72 cents per $1000. That should more than pay for three new high schools.
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NotSoSilentBob
This county could absorb a 25% increase in real estate taxes with no problem IMO. Sure there would be a lot of crying. 57 cents just isn't that high. Take a look at the surrounding tax rates.
Scott Co. assesses at 69 cents for real estate, Lee Co. at 75 cents, Russell Co. 61 cents, ****enson Co. 60 cents, Buchannan Co. 43 cents (probably not right, only number I could find via Google), Washington Co. 58 cents.
A 25% increase for Wise Co. would result in a rate of 72 cents per $1000. That should more than pay for three new high schools.
And that boys and girls, I would support. I have to believe most would support that as well.
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pvfan
I have no problem with raising my property taxes if the kids get new schools. Now, if they raise taxes to keep the kids in these old decrepit things that is a horse of a different color.
Would you like a joker in the deck ? :D A story in Sat Kpt Times says there a case in court that could cost Wise millions. And we all know how much extra money is floating around.:laffingassoff:
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simple man
Would you like a joker in the deck ? :D A story in Sat Kpt Times says there a case in court that could cost Wise millions. And we all know how much extra money is floating around.:laffingassoff:
Do you have a link to the article?
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NotSoSilentBob
This county could absorb a 25% increase in real estate taxes with no problem IMO. Sure there would be a lot of crying. 57 cents just isn't that high. Take a look at the surrounding tax rates.
Scott Co. assesses at 69 cents for real estate, Lee Co. at 75 cents, Russell Co. 61 cents, ****enson Co. 60 cents, Buchannan Co. 43 cents (probably not right, only number I could find via Google), Washington Co. 58 cents.
A 25% increase for Wise Co. would result in a rate of 72 cents per $1000. That should more than pay for three new high schools.
Norton is $.80 per $100, which was increased from $0.70 the first 12 years or so I have owned real estate.
The $0.72 you suggest is more than feasible, that would still be one of the lowest across the Commonwealth.
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I paid $0.74 for county plus $0.22 for town tax when I owned in Montgomery County.
$0.72 is very reasonable. To complain about taxes as low as they are now is just crazy.
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pvfan
Do you have a link to the article?
I don't get the on-line version. I had a class sat or I wouldn't have been moving around at that time, I picked up a paper to read while I had breakfast. I can't find in the part of the Times I can get in -it was about the value the county had figured for some gas wells, best I can recall. The case claims the county was adding the labor to the value of the property, and claimed that wasn't how it should be figured.