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According to a Facebook post by the Coalfield Progress, the school board has voted hold a public hearing on March 30 for the purpose of closing Appalachia, Pound and St. Paul and moving those students to Powell Valley, JJ Kelly and Coeburn.
This should be interesting...and possibly expensive for the taxpayers of Wise Co.
but if Wise is so bad off that they need a new school why put those students from Pound in such a run down place:D
the fun has only begun.
The schools would be renovated before they moved in pretty sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by starbuck
Renovation would happen, but most likely around the students and during the summers. I don't know the particulars, but I'm sure the class of 2011 will be the last graduating class at each of the three smaller schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
wasn't the last time this was brought up it was going to be the NEXT school year? I know they have sports schedules made already but that would be another 2 year wait for what? I could see it if they were building new schools but I don't see them keeping the other schools open till renovations are done but then again I could be totaly wrong. like I said, it is going to be fun to watch.
as for me I should keep my nose out of it as mine is in the Norton School System but if they act like this why in the world would we even think about joining that mess?
Not sure wht will end up happening when the dust settles but IMHO the BOS is getting what it wanted......next step is for them to build the new schools because since the hold up was voteing for consolidation......everyone will be behind new schools now that the consolidation is no longer an issue.....(Turns out Basham was a genuis.....wonder how much money would have been saved if the county had bit the bullet and went with his plan back then)
Well I got there at about 6:30. Here's what I got from what I listened to, I was writing down some notes and missed somethings, but I believe I caught most of the bigger things. Kilgore proposed the what was said in the OP, to close those three down, renovate, then moved those kids in. There were also several substitute motions too, Hutchinson proposed it and Perry had actually set up a nice PP for it which from what I understood that 5 schools were to receive renovations, while Kelly receives a new school - but this means that ALL 6 SCHOOLS stay open. That motion was voted down 5-3. Then Betty whined some more and made a motion to table it all until the 30th(just her normal delaying tactic) which failed.
So on March 30th, they will attempt to go forward with this plan of closing 3 and moving them into the remaining renovated schools. The three stooges mostly acted civil tonight, can't say they were their normal selves, which was only because of those substitute motions. But that March 30th meeting, being a week before the special election? That's going to be ****ing insane, I think they should sale it on PPV.
Also curious to see what's going to be said/happen at the BOS meetings on the 3rd/10th.
So after the 30th meeting when the plan is presented to the public I assume that it could still be blocked at any time before the new school year actualy starts (Probably a drop dead date before that as reorganization of some sort would be needed)Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
On a side note I wonder when the other area schools football teams that are scheduled to play any of the WC teams hit the panic button and make last min changes to there schedules
The football schedule issue will be a slight problem mainly felt by the D1 schools. Burton will be able to pick up other Cumberland teams pretty easily if they want to IMO as they lose a game with St. Paul. You may have what happened when Lee first formed too with teams playing each other more than once in the regular season to get 10 games in.
According to the papers, the consolidation will happen beginning with the 2011-2012 school year, making this spring's graduating class the last one.
well, that's what the Super said/wanted ... seems like he said this a few months ago ... if we don't have a plan by (I forget the date), 3 schools will be closed after this year, because we can't afford to keep them open.
Sucks for the kids that are juniors. Normally, the SB should pay for extra expenses, like new class rings, lettermen jackets, etc. But the parents brought this upon themselves, so don't expect the SB to help any.
I REALLY feel for you guys.
Last I heard about a month ago, Grundy fb was still short a game or 2. Maybe we can pick up somebody that has a new open date.
If thats the case, Kelly, PV, or Coeburn all would be great opportunities for the Wave since they will be competeing for the same playoff spots.
None- Basham wanted to drop 54 mil on 3 old buildings. His "wishes" would have never been funded, and what got him lynched was the "need" to cut a million off the budget by closing Appy and putting them and PV's kids into mobile classrooms. What what was in the best interest of the county was NOT to let a man that had 54 million in Jan of one year , and by August, had made such a mess of things he needed to close one school and save 1 million, have his way. I know I'm not the smartest, but in less than 6 mos, that board LOST 55 million somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Counts
Personally i think this is karma for all the anti consolidation people in the county. Basically the SB said consolidation will occur... we do not have the money to keep 6 high school open for an extended period of time. And they kept fighting for their school, probably for pride sake not for the reasons they were whining about. Now they have basically lost their school and will go to JJ Kelly, PV, and Coeburn. I really dont see the SB voting against this either. Something must be done prior to next school year.
So you are in favor of dumping 50-60 million in the 3 old buildings?Quote:
Originally Posted by basketballguy
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Originally Posted by simple man
I believe this is will lead to three new buildings as they originally wanted.
Nope not at all! I have said all along 3 schools on three sites is the best way to go. Anti's argued about everything under the sun to oppose this that when they dropped the 2-1 they went crazy ( as with most of the county).
Bottom line something must be done. Simply prolonging this situation even further is not beneficial for anyone. Having 6 schools in Wise Co. is not a feasible idea anymore. If the anti's would have been more cooperative we would have a school somewhere on indian creek for Wise/Pound, somewhere ont he 4 lane between Coeburn and St. Paul, and a school in BSG for BSG/Appy. But since nothing was good enough for them they now are probably stuck with this alternative.
But look at it like this. with that kind of money they CAN make those old schools pretty nice. with a bit of money and upkeep I don't see why these schools can't be pretty nice. sure it will take work but look at some old buildings that have had money put into them and they turned out nice. I know they are in need of renovation but I find it hard to believe that these schools can't be made into nice schools. now mind you that I still believe the best plan was for 3 new schools but if this is the next alternative I think it is a project with taking serious. "can't never could do anything" i think was the slogan, so unless the schools are just falling in and the foundation's are prety much gone why, with that amount of money, can't these be renovated into nice buildings? my house is 80 years old and it is still a very solid house. look at the houses around Big Stone that are 90 and 100 years old that are nice houses.
It ain't over yet ! more to come ! surprise, surprise, surprise !
I can pick up trash around a dump, it's still a dump and I'll have to do it again. The problem is that these buildings were never designed to last this long, the new schools today aren't either. Renovating only leads to more renovating, you don't have that problem with new schools, not for at least many, many years...we'll be doing this same thing in 10 years when we can have state of the art schools for the same amount of money.
The only thing I like about this is there will be 3 schools instead of 6, but it's really garbage in every other way.
1. Ppl. keep forgetting (or don't realize) major renovations can't be done in 10 weeks. P
2. Has anyone said "if x Million in renovations are done", how much longer the buildings will be viable? If $50 Mil. extends them, say, 20 years, and $70 mil builds 3 new, good-for-50-years buildings, this would be a bad trade-off.
wonder why they don't tear down all the old buildings at UVA and start over so kids will get better educated ? New buildings don't educate any better.
With closing down three schools, will that free up enough money to build new schools?
That seems to be the best option. Have the kids in the old schools for another year or two, then build the three new schools. Once they find locations, they should start building ASAP to get them done. These old schools are terrible, they need new schools. Renovating is only a patch, it fixes nothing.
I just hope this goes thru. Its been 10 years now, its way past time to get something done.
Wow, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BAMA MAN
New buildings give them working science labs, enough rooms, newer equipment, better facilities, air conditioning and heating, etc...
THOSE educate better.
I guess you can't do this through renovation and additions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggin
WHY WOULD YOU?????Quote:
Originally Posted by BAMA MAN
****, I have never seen pure blindness in my life. Why would you choose to fix up old schools several times rather than build brand new ones once? And the whole point of, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP 6 SCHOOLS FOR 2200 KIDS OPEN, completely goes over your heads.
Ya drunk on that perry kool aid ! Can't, Won't that's all We hear from the 5 elite. Reckon how they were gonna run all 6 for 2 yr. while the 2 on 1 was built ?Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
Are you really asking me how they could manage to run them for 2 years and but can't forever?
Sure, explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
Perry is way smarter than you are BAMA Man.
If you think so, I guess that's why he is job hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
http;//www.montrosepress.com/articles/2011/02/23breaking news/doc4d658ea3f2906767679172.txt
one of three finalists for Montrose County School District
Job hunting so that maybe he doesnt have to deal with quite as many simpletons.
suppose so, smart man, not to much, took a job here, heard the best and brightest leave here. where you goin? Me just simpleton staying here!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inStripes
I just figured out who you are Bamaman.
You are totally old school, like me. Have wondered for some time who you are and I put 2 and 2 together. You been attending the BOS and SB meetings haven't you? Sitting right in the front row. Complete with the BAMA hat.
You be correct Dawg, on all points. Me will be at them all preaching ( common sense ) I represent the committee of ME.Quote:
Originally Posted by centennialdawg
ohhh so you're the one that laughed and shook your head while that very well spoken 11 year old Lawson girl presented her views to the BOS. Classy.
not really, Me was proud of her,very well spoken and did great. Told her dad James how well I thought she did. Me loves all kids, things ain't always as they appear. Me just a big ole kid myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by imported_elp6n
You can say that now and hope the rest of us dont remember, but laughing and shaking your head (and looking like you're getting ready to stroke out) while the child was speaking shows a lack of maturity. I remember it well because it was one of the more classless things I'd seen in these meetings. She is 11 years old. The reaction she got from some, including you, shows that adults are thinking about themselves and not the children who will be attending these schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAMA MAN
Think what you wish elf, you concern me not, boys don't get under me skin ! love ya elf !Quote:
Originally Posted by imported_elp6n
Get to work on that blood pressure problem. I could see it hit 250/150 through the tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAMA MAN