Anybody have any updates from the Public hearing tonight? Are they closing the schools or not?
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Anybody have any updates from the Public hearing tonight? Are they closing the schools or not?
Its not even been voted on yet, public expression just ended at about 10 and it will pass. Betty had another motion to out it off for a year...failed of course.
The school board has voted 5-3 to close Appalachia, St. Paul and Pound high schools at the end of this school year (reported by the Coalfield)
Sure I am more than a little jaded but is this the REAL final deal or is it possable that someone can pull something out of there ass to block it?.....again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unchained
I didn't catch the whole thing, but WJHL just now said something about a petition already circulating to stop the closing of the three schools.
Didn't members of the CEASE group say that if the three smaller schools were closed that was when their law suit would be filed to stop it?
Here we go.
2 questionsQuote:
Originally Posted by luvthosevols
1) Leagly what can the petition do
2) What grounds would the lawsuit be filed on (or is it an empty threat?)
Yeah, the petition and suits mean nothing IMO..they have no leg to stand on in courts with this, don't know what they think they're accomplishing but wasting money.
Fighting what is going to happen is merely prolonging the bleeding. It is time for all folk from these communities to work hard together and make the best out of a tough situation. We have no choice
wasting money? Heck, they helped SAVE Wise, what, 40 mil. or so by not building new schools. Imagine how much more they can help save by keeping all 6 open!
I agree, the fighting has to stop. Now is the time to work together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unchained
The BHC says CEASE's Autumn Wells fears they'll violate fire and building codes, along with laws that govern education for students with special needs and the federal No Child Left Behind Act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Counts
Well I would think Fire and building coads would be easy enough to check on (And probably have been)......Special needs children and NCLB is interesting but i honistly don't see how it will be a hang up in that as far as I can see it is not raelly school specificQuote:
Originally Posted by VHSLhelper
I DO think we will see the 3 New Schools on 3 Sights take traction again at some point in the near future
The Building Code issue has no legs to stand on, as that was Rivers "tool" he was claiming he could use and was told by the Board attorney, that the schools fall under bulding code of when they were built as there have not been major renovations done that they have to bring to current building codes.
I'm more curious when they will force Coeburn back to the LPD for next 2 years until the ****enson schools finish there consolodation, been told the VHSL has told Coeburn if Wise Co. merged the 3 small into the larger they will be moved whether they want to or not by Fall sports season.
I also wonder when closing these 3 with the intent of making new school projects down the road,what happens when you rename these schools this fall,do you keep that same name when you build the new ones in a few years? It would be absurd to have these schools called something and that school/name go defunct in 5 years. Also,what happens with the uniforms these coaches have already ordered? Who foots the bill to order the new ones? Guess we could have a nostalgia auction:confused:. Whatta mess this whole clusterfrig is going to be.
They should keep the same school names IMO until new buildings are built.
Yep - for many reasons...
1.) pretty much too late to get new fb unis
2.) the "losers" will have a reason to keep complaining for NEW schools to be built
3.) who decides the new names & nicks? Would they be kept with a move? Of course not, because they were "forced" to change.
1.) Depends on how much upgrading will be done. If they are NOT planning to build new ones soon, all 3 buildings will need a LOT of work to last 20-30 more years, and those new codes WILL need to be met, and I don't see it all happening in just 10 weeks this Summer. I''d think they will do minimum work for to get 5-10 more years and build new ones soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sat_morning_QB
2.) I don't agree with that. The VHSL has allowed 4-team districts in the past (see BDD) - that's a Regional-level decision... they don't try to even things out. Now, maybe the REGIONAL board decided that, since Coeburn would be a lot larger than any of the other Cumberland schools (they were already Div. 2 in fb last cycle).
I kind of wondered if Coeburn would have wanted to go back to the LPD if this happened. That might be tough for them schedule wise though for next year if that is the case.
JIB and Clintwood both asked the VHSL to intervene because of scheduling. You already got schools avoiding playing either team that why they asked them to do something and their response is to put Coeburn back in, like what was in the Coalfield article for 2-3 years, just not been public yet. BDD was 4 teams for football only, this merger of 6 into 3 affects all sports in the LPD not just one.
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Originally Posted by VHSLhelper
Coeburn was moving back to d1 this year, Coeburn might get 85-100 kids from SP which would only serve to keep them d2.
Actually the BDD has a couple of sports that have only had 2 or 3 teams in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sat_morning_QB
And a sport next year will have only 1 team.
Fine... How about long-timer Eastern Shore? Brand new Massanutten?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sat_morning_QB
So, Clintwood & JIB say it's unfair for THEM to lose 2 district opponents, and the VHSL skrews Castlewood, Ervinton, Rye Cove, Twin Springs & St. Paul? Thats 5 teams that lose 2 district games instead of 2. Well, guess that's a make-up for the Riverheads fiasco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sat_morning_QB
And, yeah, of course it's not been made public yet... the decision to close 3 schools was just made 24 hours ago. And we're in no hurry... fb districts mean nada now in Group A, and I don't think golf will be affected, so there''s plenty of time before the volleyball playoffs to figure out what's best for b'ball season.
I meant they were the only D2 in the Cumberland. They were already the largest, and they're getting bigger. Sorry bout that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBeast
I actually believe you are seeing the end of the LPD.
Coeburn will stay in the Cumberland and JI Burton will move into the Cumberland.
Move Clintwood into the Black Diamond, that would make it a five team district (at least for a few more years because when ****enson County High School is built the Black Diamond will probably cease to exist).
Move Kelly and PV into the Clinch Mountain District.
Black Diamond won't die because it has all 4 Buchanan schools plus 2 Tigers
IDK I think we could see a region wide redistricting after the DC consolidation and/or tazwell/Richlands/Marion decide to drop to signal AQuote:
Originally Posted by VHSLhelper
I think the Districts will still be too even. If Coeburn comes back to the LPD, like some are saying...
BDD - 5 - 4 Buchanan & Honaker
Cumb - 5 - Castle, Twin Tom, Rye & JI Burton
CMD - same 5 as now
LPD - 4 - 3 Wise Co. & D'son Co.
Marion would go to the Hogo, Tazewell to the MED. Now Richlands, IDK... they'd prob. get assigned to the BDD, but number-wise, they'd fit better in the LPD, which would give all 5 Districts 5 schools, although they could go to the MED since the other county schools are there.
If Burton stays in the LPD & Richlands is added, they'd have 6, the Cumb. 4, and 5 in the other 2.
Just looks to me like everything will work out naturally.
Coeburn does not want to go back to the LPD and some of the principals of LPD Schools have been lobbying trying to get Lee in their district. Lee does not want to move to the LPD, wants to stay in the Clinch.
Has the principals been chosen and also when will we expect faculty to be notified whether or not they got a job next year or not?
Soon.
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Of course Coeburn doen't want to go back to the LPD. They're already the biggest school in the Cumberland, and they're getting bigger... should be more than double the size of any other CD school. They don't belong in the CD with more kids than PV has now.