Read that elsewhere, wondering if true.
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Read that elsewhere, wondering if true.
I just wonder who will get the job now. Could it be Austin from Appy? Or Pound's X-coach. Just one other thing, I do respect his privacy, but if you could, would you elaborate on this some?
Neither one will get the job this year. Coach J will be the Head Coach this year. (Jason Mullins)
What exactly is going on? It's terrible to hear because B.I. was doing great things at Kelly. I hope everything is OK with him.
Where else is it listed he resigned?
Someone tell me what is going on with Coach Salyers, this kind of takes me back a bit.
is that the same Jason Mullins who use to head coach at pound a few years ago?
Yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
Well I had central as an early favorite, but not now. He was easily one of the worst head coaches in the history of the LPD. Didn't they run him off from Pound? Didn't he shove a Norton player's mother after a game in pound a few years ago? What a joke he was, 4th and 20 deep in his own territory and he calls a short run up the gut. Why couldn't they get a half way decent coach, with him at the helm they'll be lucky to win a game!Quote:
Originally Posted by stainless
Then you are a moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
Complete idiocy. No, he's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
Who the hell hadn't they ran off? He's the first coach at Pound to beat Clintwood in almost 3 decades and because they didn't win state they "ran him off".Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
I'd seriously doubt it but since you have alterior motives, I'll let you go with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
It was his daddy who shoved an assistants wife after the refs called the game with like 3 min left. Also he is the one coach who talked BI into going for it on 4th down inside their 20 in 2009 when they beat us at home.
I have no motives other than to speak my mind, Jason Mullins was a joke, easily one of the worst coaches ever, 99% of his players and parents at Pound thought so too. Central will suck with him as their head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironlung
"99% of his players and parents at Pound thought so too. Central will suck with him as their head coach."
Again, wrong. Most of the kids loved him. A lot used to post on here and would tell you the same. Using Pound parents as anything to base an argument on shows what a dolt you are. Football Jesus could have coached them and they'd have bitched, whined, got him fired, and sat in on the next round of coaching hires to pick the next guy they wanted to run off. If Central sucks, it's because they're in a district with Burton, Clintwood, and a combined PV/Appy.
You're a complete moron. I'm done with you.
Jason was a joke? the only reason it seems this way is because most of the time there is about 5% of kids at pound that actually try and want to play ball maybe not even that many........Jason only got the blame because he was the easiest target.......Quote:
Originally Posted by otto_man
Well I guess most have seen the Coalfield story by now. If not go get one.
Salyers resigns head football post
by COY BAYS • Sports Editor Coalfield.Com
07.19.11 - 12:07 am
WISE — Veteran coach B.I. Salyers informed Central High and Wise County school officials Thursday that he was relinquishing his opportunity to be the new consolidated high school’s first head football coach.
Salyers’ resignation came after a disagreement with the Wise County school system’s central office concerning his use of the school system’s gas pumps in Wise.
Former Pound head coach and J.J. Kelly assistant coach Jason Mullins was named interim head coach by Central High principal Charles Collins upon Salyers’ resignation.
Central High, which is a consolidation of J.J. Kelly and Pound high schools, will play its first season of football this fall. Salyers’ resignation came just 17 days before the Aug. 1 start of practice for the Warriors.
Salyers’ disagreement with the Wise County school system’s hierachy including Superintendent Dr. Jeff Perry stemmed from his filling a private vehicle with gas from the school system’s pumps to which the former J.J. Kelly High coach had been issued a key.
Salyers had borrowed the vehicle in question, a pickup truck, to haul a piece of weight room equipment from Maryville, Tenn., to the Central High weight room at Carroll Dale Stadium in Wise.
“I don’t think what I did was wrong because I was doing it for the school and the kids,” Salyers said. “I have all the respect in the world for Jeff Perry, but when he said putting gas from those pumps into a private vehicle was illegal — that’s when I decided to resign.”
Salyers said that he has often used his personal vehicle for school-related matters without asking to be reimbursed by the school system. In this instance, he said he was replacing the gas used in transporting a leg machine from Maryville to Wise that will be used by Central’s football players, athletes in other sports at the school and physicial education weight training classes.
Salyers, who graduated from J.J. Kelly in 1986, returned to his high school alma mater as head football coach in 2004 after successful stints of leading the gridiron fortunes at St. Paul and Castlewood.
In seven seasons at J.J. Kelly, Salyers led the school to a 32-40 record including a couple of Division 2 playoff appearances. Beginning with the 2008 campaign, J.J. Kelly posted records of 7-4, 8-3 and 7-3 in Saylers’ final three seasons at the county seat school before its merger with Pound.
Mullins served as an assistant in Salyers’ program at Kelly after stepping down as Pound’s head coach following the 2006 season. He compiled a 17-33 overall ledger in five seasons at Pound. His best season at Pound was the ‘05 campaign when the Wildcats posted a 6-4 mark.
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? thecoalfieldprogress.com 2011
OH well. I wonder if he went to get the equipment without prior approval from the "powers that be". If he did, then I don't think it could be considered to be illegal unless they told him to use a county owned vehicle. This sounds like maybe Dr. Perry sould be looking into other people's usage of the gas card/key, or whatever it may be.
Nonetheless, since it was for the students at Central, then what would be the problem?
I am gonna go ahead and call a big BS on that there is something more to this than that, you don't resign over something like that. You say we used the truck for county business and I figured it would be easier than submitting receipts and being reimbursed. If the policy is to not use the pumps and submit receipts then that's fine thanks for the heads up so we don't do it again. Heck the county even has gas cards they will issue for things such as this. I have used my personal trucks more times than I can count hauling stuff for Coeburn football and I would just go by the gas station in town and charge it to the school, or more recently just get the gas card from Coach Hamilton or Mr. Lee. I understand why BI would have access to the county pump and not be able to just charge at a station in town since he is in town and right beside the pump unlike the other schools in the county. I can also see where Dr. Perry would say something about it in case someone was to drive by and see him filling so and so's truck and not know the reason and get upset about it. Heck that may have been what happened someone saw him doing it and called and complained about it.
You actually made my point for me, I just wasn't able to put it so eloquently.
This situation is beyond ridiculous! The Superintendent should have had a meeting with BI and discussed this issue way before it got to the point of him stepping down and then going to the press. Surely they could work this out one way or another and get him back to running the program. Once BI stepped down did Central open up the position to outside applicants or just hire from within? This program has improved quite a bit since Saunders took over but it only takes one bad coach to go back to averaging one or two wins a year. Jason Mullins' record is not very impressive. Does he keep the job after this year or do they look for someone with better credentials?
I wouldn't hold Mullins record against him to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Widespread_Panic
I must say though, there have been a lot of odd coaching situations this summer in the area.
I'm not sure where people were thinking Central was going to be competitive in football. It's a combined school yes, but neither of the schools that combined had won a playoff game since Pound when to the state finals over a decade ago. As for the BI situation, I feel bad for the kids; losing a coach two weeks before practice can not be a good thing. Hopefully the folks at Central will give Mullins time to see what he can do, before this happened I had them penciled in to finish last in the LPD and this will only make things worse I'm afraid, simply due to bad timing.
Well spoke to an individual with detailed knowledge of issue. Said BI was issued a gas key by Principal Collins to use for moving equip, BI told him he had to use a non WCSB truck to go to Maryville for this equip.A SB member was informed of BI filling a personal vehicle on the school pumps asked to see the camera footage, he then told Mr. Perry that was stealing and to take care of it. He didnt like being labeled a thief as this was last straw for him, he has had issues with things and felt best to resign even though someone wanted to fire him for the gas and might still try to press charges, even though BI informed his Boss and was okayed by Mr. Collins.
slight problem there.
No, HUGE problem there.
He didn't like being labeled a thief - seriously? Who cares? You're doing something you have the OK for, KNOWING that it looks bad to anyone not in on it (which is why you got the OK to start with), and then you don't like when someone reports it? The LAST thing he shoulda done was resign. Hasn't he ever heard of "a teachable moment"?
I'm sorry, but this really just sounds like an excuse.
Maybe some things have happened in the past, but you don't resign when you're right... that lets the guy/s in the wrong win.
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Here's what I was thinking yesterday... and I hope I'm wrong... did the Pound parents strike again???
I think you hit the nail on the head. I think that some pound folks got involved and are trying to start trouble.
The thing is, if the Pound parents were in on this, do you think they would have stopped at Mullins getting the job since they already ran him out of Pound before?
Call it "sabotage" stripes. Some of those people are out for nothing but to bring the whole school system down, no matter who gets hurt.
well, that would explain it.
Any good coach would know he can't run a program if the parents have more say than he does.
Put it this way, the "good ole boys" club at Pound don't like Mullins, but they absolutely hate B.I. I would not put it past any of them.
For once, they had nothing to do with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by centennialdawg
If you read my post, there was a "Fielder's Choice" in this decision to have him fired.
I got your message on that. I just didn't want to say it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sat_morning_QB
I think everyone knew which board member it was, if you can call him that, would absolutely not put it past him. Really makes sense now, I felt sorry for him enough as it is now having to deal with that Pound bunch and their "leaders".
I'm seeing a lot of blame being tossed around but according to the Coalfield article it was Perry who accused him of being a thief without first getting all the information. If what is in the paper is correct, then he did apparently have the correct permission to use the gas and Perry should have researched that before speaking to him. Under NO circumstances should he have accused him of being a thief. Even if he believed it to be true. In such a case he should have asked for his side of what happened, either before or after speaking to Collins, and then either agreed that he did have the correct permission for the gas or if he believed that he had not gone through the correct channels then he should have taken action, not before, and never accuse an employee of theft (even if you believe it is true) management 101 there. Fully research, dismiss as unfounded, or take action. Again management 101.
Where does it say Dr. Perry accused him of anything? It only says that Salyers said Dr. Perry said that putting the gas in a private vehicle was illegal, that's just stating the facts, not calling him a thief. Can't imagine Dr. Perry calling him a thief or doing anything close to it without first checking the facts, trying to figure out where you see he was accused of being a thief by him or anyone according to the article? Not seeing anything at all like that.
If he did not go through the correct channels and if he what he did was in fact illegal, and if he was charged with a crime, what crime do you think it would be?
well, wouldn't that depend on who says it's "illegal"?
I know nothing about this, so... is it a state law, a county law, a SB rule.. whose rule did he break (if any)?
Well, we will probably never know the full extent of the situation and we all have done some finger pointing, myself included. I really think ALL parties involved blew this all out of proportion.
If it's a school board rule, then it's not an illegal act. It is only illegal if it's an actual law, not a rule.
If he did in fact get permission from principle Collins, and if principle Collins knew the details, and if it is in fact illegal, then principle Collins also committed an illegal act.
I agree, it was all blown way out of proportion, and not just on here.