Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Acually IMHO overpriced considering.
I have seen so many broken leads, it's no biggie. All a tone deaf person has to do is crank the horns to full and they will blow at any provocation.
But I think 1200-1400 is typical, and a hundred dollar repair puts these at 1500..
I wouldn't pay more than a thousand, or just wait. As I'm fond of saying, the deal is out there...
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
He doesn't mention the pedestals.
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
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Cal Weldon
He doesn't mention the pedestals.
The mounting bases were optional (at least for the first couple of years or so). You could order Model 19's with or without the "optional mounting bases". (see upper left corner of this page the paragraph under the "OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS" paragraph
http://www.altecpro.com/pdfs/vintage...r%20Manual.pdf
They also show a picture of the 19 without the optional mounting base -- when you hang it upside down in a recording studio for example.
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
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Old Guy
Acually IMHO overpriced considering.
I have seen so many broken leads, it's no biggie. All a tone deaf person has to do is crank the horns to full and they will blow at any provocation.
But I think 1200-1400 is typical, and a hundred dollar repair puts these at 1500..
I wouldn't pay more than a thousand, or just wait. As I'm fond of saying, the deal is out there...
Agreed they are overpriced. I paid $1070 for my first pair of nineteens, and $1300 for my second pair -- both mint and all original and even had mint grills -- no repairs necessary. If I was interested I'd see if there's some flexibility in the price of the CL ad......
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Those Cabs are in really nice shape from the pictures ! And is worth the $1400 if all the components are original IMHO.The last 3 pair on eBay sold for between $1500- $2500 IIRC. Diaphragms aren't a problem ($90 a piece) ! It does look like a water ring mark on top of one of the cabs,but again no big deal can take them out quite easily. Shipping would be the problem.If a local buyer could pick them up would be a good deal.Should have 802-8G's and 416-8B's in them for 1978.
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
To each his own AB. You would pay it, I would not. For 1400 I would not want any repairs needed.
Bear in mind to do it right both frams should be replaced. Which makes them 1600.
My 100 quote is more accurate than your 90, you didn't figure shipping...
I just ain't gonna pay 1400 then 200 and do work...not when waiting a month would save a few hundred. Ain't like I got a shortage of speakers, have sets not even hooked up.
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OG I'm just stating I think they are in very good condition ! And worth the money, just my opinion that's all.
Your right on the money "To each his own" I guess ! For anything decent sounding, it costs money.It's an expensive hobby to say the least. :smile2:
FWIW I wouldn't need to buy any (Large or Small) diaphragms.I already have what I need, pretty much.Kinda like you I suppose. :wink2:
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Old Guy
I want a pair ! Don't you just love those speakers from 1976 ? :biggrin2:
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Altec Best
I want a pair ! Don't you just love those speakers from 1976 ? :biggrin2:
When guys hit 40 thy wanna trade their wife in for two 20's. Problem is at that age you aren't wired for 220...
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Old Guy
When guys hit 40 thy wanna trade their wife in for two 20's. Problem is at that age you aren't wired for 220...
I was talking about the cheeks :biggrin2:
FWIW I'm far from needing Viagra not even close.Besides I think my wiring runs on 240 :emot15: Just Kidding OG, my wife and I are quite happy.And approaching 20 years :Red heart:
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Funny thing, after a while things just get comfortable...don't get me wrong, I love looking and fantasizing...but the idea of going thru all the arguments again to get to know each other just doesn't appeal...I have so much time invested....and not enough left to do it again.
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Valencias are great speakers--and with some mods they can be upgraded and made even better!!
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Funny thing, after a while things just get comfortable...don't get me wrong, I love looking and fantasizing...but the idea of going thru all the arguments again to get to know each other just doesn't appeal...I have so much time invested....and not enough left to do it again.
Agreed--my wife and I are together for the long haul but looking is always fun. Listening is fun too....
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Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Nice pair!
Back to the speakers (as much as I enjoyed the vintage cheeks). When you look at the price of a model 19 in good to excellent condition and compare it to what you can buy new, the value becomes obvious. Attending a lot of audio shows, the prices floor me. I'd much rather pay $2K for a nice pair of vintage Altec than the crazy prices for today's "high end" speakers.
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Panomaniac
Nice pair!
Back to the speakers (as much as I enjoyed the vintage cheeks). When you look at the price of a model 19 in good to excellent condition and compare it to what you can buy new, the value becomes obvious. Attending a lot of audio shows, the prices floor me. I'd much rather pay $2K for a nice pair of vintage Altec than the crazy prices for today's "high end" speakers.
+1 That has always been my take on this.Dollar for Dollar, IME Altec Lansings can't be touched for the quality of sound to the dollars that are spent !! :Thumbs up:
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Most of what passes as high end sounds sterile to me...
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Yeah, pretty much. Very "Hi-Fi", not much music. There are some nice exceptions, but they are "exceptions".
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Old Guy
Most of what passes as high end sounds sterile to me...
I am with you OG...
Being wired for 220 (and possibly 440) there is only one thing I enjoy more than audio equipment and music. :D
If someone ever makes a speaker that I think sounds better I will buy them and let my Altec's go. Cost will not be an object. I have been trying hard to let them go for over 36 years. It's funny I can remember being attracted to them as a child... Every time I heard something that sounded that great I had to see what it was. I still remember looking at them at theaters, theme parks, and always seeing that "Voice of the Theater" and ALTEC logo.
I understand how they produce sound and everything inside them that does it but I still don't believe it. They still amaze me. :)
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Too much tech in Hi-Fi these days.:mad:
In the old days stuff had to pass the listening test, these days, if the test gear says it's accurate...it must be...:(
I don't like auto-exposure cameras either. Never liked letting a machine do my thinking...
Listening with no tech doesn't impress me much...on the net are tons of glowing posts about abominable speakers...
Life is a balance...all the knowledge is no good without good instincts on how and when...OTOH instinct alone only goes so far..
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Old Guy
Too much tech in Hi-Fi these days.:mad:
In the old days stuff had to pass the listening test, these days, if the test gear says it's accurate...it must be...:(
I don't like auto-exposure cameras either. Never liked letting a machine do my thinking...
Listening with no tech doesn't impress me much...on the net are tons of glowing posts about abominable speakers...
Life is a balance...all the knowledge is no good without good instincts on how and when...OTOH instinct alone only goes so far..
AMEN. If you have enough marketing money you can convince a LOT of people your product is the best. Take Bose for example. ;)
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
No, That's OK. You can take them. :P
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Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
I think Todd said "No highs, no lows, it must be Bose"
Re: CL Heads Up: Model 19's
Yeah, that what we always said.
However..... Back in the early 90s I toured with a set of Bose powered speakers. The were called Acoustimass before they name was applied to the consumer line. Looked like an overgrown Bose 802 but with a 12" woofer inside the box, and the amp + crossover in there too. Still used the array of small cones on a curve for the mids and highs. They were really quite good and I enjoyed running them. They were the only pair I've ever seen.
