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That's pretty wild. Especially having districts where a 1A school could be in the same group as a 3A school and doing away with regions altogether. But I like that they are allowing different classifications to be in a district. That would make it more possible to preserve a more traditional LPD.
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This really isn't fixing any issues smaller schools have it's actually taking a step backwards. Before they went to equal thirds change back around 2000 there used to be a hard cut off number of below 500 student's you were Group A, Below 1,000 for AA, above 1,000 you were triple AAA; equal thirds you divided number of schools an classified them by that way regardless on enrollment, this is how schools like Franklin, Riverheads, Buffalo Gap, etc. came down when they were AA. Schools like William Campbell, and Graham had A numbers but played up because of rivalries and other sports, yet WC decided to drop down, Graham stayed, this eliminates that altogether now.
It's a step back to before 1986 when the Division split was introduced, if it passes then basically playoffs will be what it was prior to Division split with exception of lowering the cut off 25 students. Where does this arbitrary number come from you ask, look no further than the head of the Principal's association this year who came up with the idea, than Eastside's Dante Lee! The number was supposed to have been lowered to around 375-425 but, when he was put in charge he began cooking up the numbers to accommodate his School's ADM so they would stay away from the other County School's. He is the designer of the new Playoff format, many asked why did it look like a Basketball Tournament Bracket; well it was designed by a former below average Basketball coach!
If you want it tweaked to lower the ADM number for reclassification and want the football playoff format changed call your principal and call Dante Lee at Eastside or talk to him at a Basketball game and voice your opinion.
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If you lower the number much more it becomes usually watered down though as well. Yay were the state champs of our groups. We were better than 20 other schools! No one will be happy all the time, but with todays school sizes, its not a terrible number.
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Should of been this way from the start. Now the vhsl needs to have all 6 state championships in 1 weekend at the same location with some TV coverage like TN does with theirs. I say have them all at Virginia Tech (someonr has to put that field to use).
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This to me is one of the better ideas that the VHSL has had in a long time. Im all for a 6 division system. To me itll do state wide what the new single A system for D1 and D2 done this season. One side of it that I really like is this will bring teams like Richlands down to 2A with teams like Union and Gatecity. Im a firm believer in playing better competition makes better teams and having Richlands in 2A would make for some fun playoffs. As far as the possibility of a 3 way district (1a through 3A being together) is a little far fetched. I mean yeah Clintwood was the best team in the LPD but could a 1A school consistantly compete with a 3A? Could William Campbell play year in and year out with Brooksville or EC Glass? I feel like If their are enough schools within a "comfortable" traveling distance that are classified together then they should be in the same district. Lee High will probably become and LPD team as will Gatecity, but JIB would probably be put into the Cumberland, if these districts still exist then. To me it wouldnt be fair to ask JIB to compete with Gatecity, Union, Central, Dickenson Co, Lee High every season in every sport. Each of those schools will more than double JIB's student body. Before anyone says it, I know JIB isnt affraid to compete with these schools Im just saying its not fair numbers wise to ask them to do so when the Cumberland has Castlewood, Eastside, Ryecove, Tiwn Springs, and TW all schools that are student body wise JIB's size. I know Ive said playing up makes a better team (and Ill stand by that till I die) but if JIB plays the above mentioned teams every year thats atleast two losses every season which can really kill playoff chances as to where JIB could schedule Central, Union, and other 2A schools while still playing in a 1A district. All in all Im ofr the 6A system and doing a little realigning. I think itll be better in the long run. Ofcourse their are some kinks that will have to be worked out but IMO itll be a better setup. Evolution is something that has to happen in order to survive for anything and the system we have now is nearing 30 years in age.
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I may be wrong, but I don't see this passing. AAA controls the state, and don't think they will go for this.
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So the redistricting deal....Take all of the Region D teams included some AA that might get in (Richlands, Abingdon etc) and split them into even geographical districts and lets see what it looks like. lets compare and contrast ideas. idk about you guys but im tired of the names of our districts, time to get rid of it all and start new.
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It will. AAA will love it cause they get to be known as 5A and 6A now.
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So the redistricting deal....Take all of the Region D teams included some AA that might get in (Richlands, Abingdon etc) and split them into even geographical districts and lets see what it looks like. lets compare and contrast ideas. idk about you guys but im tired of the names of our districts, time to get rid of it all and start new.
Renaming the districts isn't a bad idea as long as a "committee" from Wise County isn't utilized to come up with the new names.
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Im all for it gchs_devils. Rename them and mix em up. In all honesty Richlands, Tazwell, Abingdon, Lebanon, Grundy, VHS, and John Battle could be in one district. Gate City, Lee High, Dickenson Co, Union, and Central in the other district and you got about all the 2A schools in the area in two districts. IMO those two districts would own the state championships year in and year out. Richlands could get over the hump, Gatecity will remain a powerhouse, Dickenson Co will be a monster (it may take a year or two to get going though) Union and Central will be very competitive. Lebanon, Grundy, and Tazwell have been down but I have all these teams be solid hard to beat in the past and they will get their edge back. john Battle and VHS both played better this season then they have in years. JMO but it would be hard pressed to find two better districts in the state then what these two would be.
You could break it up into 3 four team districts like Richlands, Tazwell, Grundy, and Abingdon in one. Dickenson Co, Union, Central, and Lee High in one. Gatecity, John Battle, VHS, and Lebanon in the other. Either way ya cut it it would make some good football.
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I may be wrong, but I don't see this passing. AAA controls the state, and don't think they will go for this.
You probably have a better feel for it than I do. The one thing that makes me thing AAA might (and thats a big might) go for it is because you can have mixed division districts. Thus allowing them to keep their schools who are natural local rivals in the same district they have now.
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With 6A vs AAA the competition level will change ALOT. Hampton Crabbers may be a 6A and some of the teams in their district that they beat on may end up 5A which will get them a chance to make a playoff run that they normally may not get. I can see the bright side also being that in bigger student body schools their will be a little more separation than their is now. Id love to see it happen
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If the future Dickenson County, Gate City, and Union are placed into a district together you talk about a slobberknocker of a district. This is off topic but I have thought all year what a monster of a team Dickenson County would have been this year if Clintwood could have had a couple of the skills players from Haysi. Dickenson County would still be a modest 2A school under this new system, no one in this area will be able to touch them if Coach Mullins takes the head job and continues his program.
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So the consoladation will put Dickenson Co in 2A? If so I see GC, DC, Union, Central, and Lee in a district. Whoever comes out of that district alive will be ready for a deep run!
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Just like I said, it would be a monster district with some of the meanest toughest players in the State. Not to mention come playoff time that Richlands will be in that mix and Tazwell (I know they blew this year but Tazwell usually has a good program). I think 2A would be a monster conferece state wide, especially down here
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If Clintwood, Haysi, and Ervinton combined this year that would be about 750 students so that would put them in the same class as Union, Gate City, Lee, and Central. Im assuming that would be 2A.
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How many from each school? About even?
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How many from each school? About even?
Are you asking how many from each Dickenson County school? If not then I appologize. This year Cwood has 304, Haysi 285, Ervinton 158 for a total of 747. That may not be exact but its close. The website Im using is VHSL-REFERENCE | Virginia High School Football. Pretty cool site for looking up each teams stats.
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Ya thats what I wanted to know. Thanks.
