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OT: How are they doing this?
There are a lot of small bands posting on YouTube that are apparently recording their own music. The quality of some of their recordings (like Pomplamoose) seems to be studio quality. I can see from the video they are using Neumann mics but what might they be using for the recording?
I have not been keeping up with the latest recording equipment. Im certain its something digital. Are they recording this with a computer or is there a digital recording device?
You can see most everything they are using in the video but I am missing the recorder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlDGF...eature=related
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
No doubt a PC based workstation. Their video editing is as tight and precise as the audio. Be sure to check out their covers of "Mr Sandman" and Lady Gaga's "Telephone".
As for the software.................... drop them an email, they're quite friendly.
I'm sure they have access to some really good "pro" help as they seem closely associated with other more mainstream artists like Ben Folds, etc....
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Their running the mixer output into a PC with special software and then burning it to disc? Thats it??
I guess I can sell my Akai 630DB now? :biggrin2:
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Certainly computer based. But I've heard superb recordings done on the little portable digital recorders that sell for a few $100. Done with ribbon mics. Your Akai is only useful now as an effects box. (Tape saturation is still much loved)
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
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Originally Posted by
Nipper
Their running the mixer output into a PC with special software and then burning it to disc? Thats it??
I guess I can sell my Akai 630DB now? :biggrin2:
I'm really just guessing Nipper. Next time i'm in the studio i'll ask an engineer for an informal video mastering tutorial. :D
My inkling is that everything is recorded in digital format, both audio and video. What can be done in terms of syncing and tweaking in a good digital PC mastering process is nothing short of miraculous.
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From what I've heard they record directly into a computer then edit and mix with Pro Tools software. No need to burn to a CD because they only sell MP3s thru their own website and iTunes! They met while attending Stanford where Jack was getting a music recording and orchestration degree. While recording they document it with 2 DV cameras and Natalie edits it down to 'Video Songs' that they post on uTube. They were approached by a number of major record labels and offered contracts but they decided to stay independent and not split the profits. I'm sure they learned some things from people like Ben Folds but they were producing top quality sound even before the "pros" were offering them their recording studios.
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It's simple with Pro tools. Good microphones. Good musical talent.
Here is another home brew production. Claudia Girardin Neumann TLM 49. TLM for transformless mic.
Claudia Girardin-Beautiful Disaster (Lyrics) HD - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0LoG...eature=related
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Didn't care for that one. It sounds over produced and very dynamically compressed to me.
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With today's digital gear anybody can afford quality.
But bear in mind quality and skills isn't everything. It's a matter of inspiration, quality, hard work...and a natural or learned sense of what resonates with people. There are millions of very skilled musicians living at near starvation wages, and many more at the top that are much less skilled. Lots of those at the top are only there for a short period.
Staying power takes a combination of factors, lots of others are at a lower level for years, only to catch fire.
I can cite, for instance, Bob Seger. I remember the Bob Seger System from the late 60's. Most of the industry wrote him off.
Suddenly he's a hit machine.
Steve Miller was a "one hit wonder" for years. And it wasn't even that big a hit. Of course being Les Paul's Godson didn't hurt him.
What makes a great recording? If you can bottle it name your price.
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
With today's digital gear anybody can afford quality.
But bear in mind quality and skills isn't everything. It's a matter of inspiration, quality, hard work...and a natural or learned sense of what resonates with people. There are millions of very skilled musicians living at near starvation wages, and many more at the top that are much less skilled. Lots of those at the top are only there for a short period.
Staying power takes a combination of factors, lots of others are at a lower level for years, only to catch fire.
I can cite, for instance, Bob Seger. I remember the Bob Seger System from the late 60's. Most of the industry wrote him off.
Suddenly he's a hit machine.
Steve Miller was a "one hit wonder" for years. And it wasn't even that big a hit. Of course being Les Paul's Godson didn't hurt him.
What makes a great recording? If you can bottle it name your price.
Great post!
I'd only add that sometimes, for some artists it is(or was) all about being at the right place in terms of the grand scale of time.
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
For the purists where should digital start.
For some like Phil Ramone who does the Gramys TV brodcast. It starts at the mic splitter and ends at you TV set. For others it starts after the Neve analogue mixer and ends at your TV set.
It's a mad world out there.Theres nothing like the sound of a NEVE and if you can reproduce it's musicality . I'll go for after the analogue mixer.
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LICORNE
For the purists where should digital start.
For some like Phil Ramone who does the Gramys TV brodcast. It starts at the mic splitter and ends at you TV set. For others it starts after the Neve analogue mixer and ends at your TV set.
It's a mad world out there.Theres nothing like the sound of a NEVE and if you can reproduce it's musicality . I'll go for after the analogue mixer.
And get a horse too. I remember reading posts just like that about digital cameras 10 years ago.
The best of analog sounds pretty good. But relatively cheap digital is pretty darn good. I have no problem with you buying your vintage Neve. But for what you pay I'll get a whole studio and a heckuva a lot of Altecs.
It's a poor workman who blames his tools. I have seen good engineers make silk purses out of sow's ear equipment.
If the digital gear is better than the operator-99% of engineers on the planet- no amount of analog will make one whit of difference.
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
With today's digital gear anybody can afford quality.
But bear in mind quality and skills isn't everything. It's a matter of inspiration, quality, hard work...and a natural or learned sense of what resonates with people. There are millions of very skilled musicians living at near starvation wages, and many more at the top that are much less skilled. Lots of those at the top are only there for a short period.
Staying power takes a combination of factors, lots of others are at a lower level for years, only to catch fire.
I can cite, for instance, Bob Seger. I remember the Bob Seger System from the late 60's. Most of the industry wrote him off.
Suddenly he's a hit machine.
Steve Miller was a "one hit wonder" for years. And it wasn't even that big a hit. Of course being Les Paul's Godson didn't hurt him.
What makes a great recording? If you can bottle it name your price.
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Originally Posted by
bowtie427ss
Great post!
I'd only add that sometimes, for some artists it is(or was) all about being at the right place in terms of the grand scale of time.
+2, I don't know how some of the musical artists today are even popular. I still think some of the Best Music has already been written I'm just "Old School" I guess...
Like Vintage Altecs ? I like Vintage music as well.They go great together ! :biggrin2:
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Altec Best
I don't know how some of the musical artists today are even popular. :biggrin2:
The thing is, it's not our music. Youngsters of today live different lives. Our parents didn't like rock. Their parents didn't like Jazz...there were probably people who thought ragtime was "the devil's music".
life goes on and things change.
BTW I take exception to bad artists being popular only lately.
Anybody remember The Archies? How about Ohio Express? Not a lot of today's music is worse than "Yummy Yummy Yummy".
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Old Guy
Anybody remember The Archies? How about Ohio Express? Not a lot of today's music is worse than "Yummy Yummy Yummy".
OMG OG..... Thats a recollection I could have lived without.
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what gets me, is the super high - clean spls these modern systems are able to produce -- almost pure distortion -- at!
who here digs Skrillex?
;)
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life goes on and things change.
So true! Apparently we no longer know what good music is.
I'd use this video for example. Consider that it has nearly 2 million views, and only 1200 dislikes.
Worst music video ever - YouTube
I sincerely apologize in advance for however many seconds of your life you waste watching it.
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
OK... OK.... I got one.
I hope you guys enjoy this. I think it killed my dog. @%#$.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FhQxZnSqc0&feature=related
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Nipper
OMG!
Isn't that the tune that destroys the martians?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhgnMX73Pw
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Slim Rulz! Most artists today wish they were half as good as Slim.
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
BTW I take exception to bad artists being popular only lately.
Anybody remember The Archies? How about Ohio Express? Not a lot of today's music is worse than "Yummy Yummy Yummy".
C'mon OG I'm not talking about that crap ! The Archies ? I just don't like most of the new music today,it all sounds the same IMHO.I'm talking about vintage Bands like, PINK FLOYD,Jimi Hendrix,The Doors,The Who,Santana,Deep Purple,Iron Butterfly,The Grateful Dead,The Rolling Stones,ZZ Top,Emerson Lake & Palmer,Lynryd Skynryd,Eric Clapton,The Moody Blues,Bad Company,Genesis,Steely Dan,Journey,and especially Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. Just a small example of the Vintage Music I think sounds great on my Altecs. IMHO
You can pick music today like the Archies there is plenty to go around in any era.. :wink2:
BTW: You left out Sugar,Sugar one of my all time favorite Archie tunes ...:biggrin2: :tongue2:
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Panomaniac
Most artists today wish they were half as good .
Exactly ...:smile2:
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There's an incredible amount of good new music. It's just not found in the same old places. Mass medium has become tedium.
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Maybe I should have explained a little differently.I like some new music just very little. Back in the day it just seemed to be more plentiful me thinks.
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Altec Best
C'mon OG I'm not talking about that crap ! The Archies ? I just don't like most of the new music today,it all sounds the same IMHO.I'm talking about vintage Bands like, PINK FLOYD,Jimi Hendrix,The Doors,The Who,Santana,Deep Purple,Iron Butterfly,The Grateful Dead,The Rolling Stones,ZZ Top,Emerson Lake & Palmer,Lynryd Skynryd,Eric Clapton,The Moody Blues,Bad Company,Genesis,Steely Dan,Journey,and especially Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. Just a small example of the Vintage Music I think sounds great on my Altecs. IMHO
You can pick music today like the Archies there is plenty to go around in any era.. :wink2:
BTW: You left out Sugar,Sugar one of my all time favorite Archie tunes ...:biggrin2: :tongue2:
Exactly ...:smile2:
You got good taste. But you left out Neil Young, Janis, and Velvet Underground. :)
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
Here is Glen Miller by Andre Rieu Royal Albert Hall 2008. I know that after speaking to a technician working with him that they used Ampex analogue 24 track .That was back in 2006.
Andre Rieu Glenn Miller medley - YouTube
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Convergence what is your point? plenty of good work has been done on analog. Plenty of good work has been done digital. I fail to see what posting recordings at random does?
You are more than welcome to use any gear you like. As is anybody else. Why so insistent that everybody like what you like?
Differences are what makes the world go round.
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
I don't think many of today's singers would sound good 'au naturel'. I don't mean naked.
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Probably true, but good engineers and producers have been "juicing up" singer's voices for years. The bag of tricks isn't new, just some of the tricks in it. ;)
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Dunno if this has interest, but this place has free resources for film and digital media, such as audio-
Media College - Video, Audio and Multimedia Resources
Audio Tutorials
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Re: OT: How are they doing this?
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
Our parents didn't like ...
Their parents didn't like...
people who thought ragtime was "the devil's music".
life goes on and things change.
BTW I take exception to bad artists being popular only lately.
Anybody remember The Archies?
quite true.
and a huge bummer.
my mom flat out said led zep was 'jigaboo music'.
also,
i got a copy of sugar,sugar, from the back of a box of sugar crisp.
or alpha bits.
or maybe honeycomb, after 40+, years, i'm not sure which one.
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Altec Best
Here's a pretty cool vid ! I saw this 13 year old girl rock'n. Pretty impressive..
here is an like aged singer, who hapens to be in a quite fair band already -
(with a female drummer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln-w86lgXwE
Desiree Bassett was the underage guitar goddess of the previous decade -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhtDBqDucJE
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just me now
what gets me, is the super high - clean spls these modern systems are able to produce -- almost pure distortion -- at!
agreed
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who here digs Skrillex?
that dude creeps me out.
like a cross of walter becker
and geddy lee.
what both looked like back in the 70's
one of these days i'll listen ...
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tHe Neumann U87 is still one of the best. This voice leed lacks some reverberation. But I recognize my U87.
http://youtu.be/kwkAehgBCbM
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Neumanns are indeed fine mics. Cost as much as a car.:D
The East German factory was given back to the Neumann family and still operates.
http://www.microtechgefell.de/
their stuff is also nice.
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LICORNE
Old Guy favourite music. ha ha ha !
No clue why it's supposed to be funny? just looked like a dumb post to me.
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LICORNE
That's just bizarre!
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Old Guy
No clue why it's supposed to be funny? just looked like a dumb post to me.
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LICORNE
I agree video is ??? Strange to say the least ! Don't know what the issue is yet,between you guys, but keep the posts on point please. (Altec Lansing)
Not that there is one.But would like to nip this in the bud so there isn't one (Issue). Thanks Guys ! Cheers..
