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AB, those fumes will kill you. :Sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Altec Best
Un-vented natural gas/propane/kerosene heaters are NASTY. It only costs a little more money and some installation time to get a vented heater and you will never regret it.
Northern Tool and Graingers have some nice ones.
Kerosene is fine if it's burning well. I've got several. One for the garage, two for the living room and a 4th that needs work. I haven't used the one in the uninsulated garage in sub-freezing weather yet, so I'm not sure how effective it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nipper
I've got a CO detector that shows me the level in PPM, and I try to keep it under 15. My newest old heater doesn't even register.
Maybe you were thinking of the salamander style heaters? Mine all use wicks.
Yes AG... I was thinking a salamander because he said its for a garage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audio_by_Goodwill
I recently installed one of these and it is great. Easy to install, vented and perfect for a garage. Runs on nat gas or propane.
Mr. Heater Propane Garage Heater — 75,000 BTU, Model# MHU75LP | Propane Heaters | Northern Tool + Equipment
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Originally Posted by Nipper
75,000BTU's....... that would do the trick! Ther Kerosene heater I have in my garage is only 26,000 BTU's.
I know that's why I haven't been too enthusiastic on going out there . But this is what I'm using at the moment. Heats up quickly and then I shut it off for awhile and then turn back on every half hour or so.Just a PIA and don't like the fumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nipper
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If you two are interested in that heater they also sell them at Lowes and towards the end of the season they will mark them and the vent kit down to anywhere from 50-75% off. It can run with or without a thermostat.
That wont help much now but if you can snatch one for that price its really a nice unit.
another thing y'all need to consider with these open combustion heaters is what you're putting in the air while using them, i'm referring specifically to dust particles, and chemicals, their constituents and vapors.
Once upon a time when i was part of a safety team in an injection molding business, it was brought to my attention that potentially lethal compounds can be formed when various combinations of vapor and particulate are combined and heated. The focus at that time was the occupational hazards of workers who were at that time allowed to smoke at their work station, and the potential gasses and compound that were being inhaled after pulling them thru the red hot cherry.
Just something for you to consider.
In my particular case just some saw dust at the moment.I also open the doors weather permitting.The heat is really only needed when it dips below 40 degrees.So if the temps reach 50 degrees ? I don't use the heater at all.It has just got cold this past week really.
Gee, thanks guys. You've changed the thread from "How much power do you use?" to "How much propane/kerosene do you use?. Similar, but not the same. :Disappointed:
Sorry Pano ! I can delete the posts or move them to a new thread if everyone would like ? I just answered the question about the testing and it got a little off topic ! :redface2:
Let me know what you would like to do ?
Sorry Pano.
I got carried away. I know those things cant be good for you.
AB, feel free to delete my OT posts in this thread.
I'm starting this thread so I can move posts here without deleting them.
Is this OK guys ? Sorry Pano I should have stepped in a little sooner to bring it back on topic ! :wink2:
Splitting off is fine - and here we are!!
I've used the big kerosene blower heaters to heat aircraft hangers and warehouses. They don't smell pretty, that's for sure. My neighbors died of carbon monoxide poisoning by a heater, tho it was so long ago I don't remember the heater type. I do remember the stretchers going out to the ambulance and the firemen repelling off the roof to check on everyone in the building. A scary way to wake up, but very glad to be able to wake up.
I saw something interesting once on an antique hunt. A person had a woodburning stove of the old order, in a large approx. 75'X 30' corrugated steel, uninsulated building. All this person did was place a large stainless steel curved sheet around the backside of the heater and very close to it. Then they placed a regular fan behind the sheet of steel. It was about 20 degrees out that day, inside the structure it was warm enough for a turtleneck and a sweater. Now this was a large stove about 3' in diameter and almost 5' feet high, I dont know how big your garage is but I think a small wood burning stove and this technique would keep you very comfortable, plus girls and neighbors love wood burning stoves.
My mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altec Best
Thanks for making it right AB. :Thumbs up:
Several years ago a friend took out a working electric furnace . He wanted the then available lower gas bill.
It was a 120,000 BTU 240 Volt heater, with 3 heating elements. I disconnected 2 , a had a 40,000 BTU heater .
I wired the heater with a electric stove cordset and a 40 Amp circuit.
Over the top duct opening I put 1/2" steel hardware cloth and alum window screening.
I put a filter on the intake and finished it off with a wall mounted thermostat .
We epoxy coated the floor, hung a swing , put in a stereo with UREI 809s
With the cars outside we have a place for the grand kids to play. (papa too)
The garage has insulated plaster board walls and cieling, 1" strofome under the slab floor , thermo payne windows facing south, and an insulated 1.5" steel door. We painted it white and that really helped brighten it up.
Don
Not sure exactly what the project is at this stage, or how far along it is... but you might do well with 2 of the electric oil radiators (heats oil with electric element). Safe enough afaik, to leave running 24x7 (check manual), and easy-ish by comparison afaik on the electric bill. 'Pelonis' is the last brand I saw. ...and easier to run romex than gas line probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altec Best
I was cat feeding for some folks on vacation, they left one (1) going in the basement for her highness, and it kept it 63?-66? the entire time I was there. Though, there were no 10? for 2 weeks straight spells... I was still impressed.
Maybe then throw in a couple 75w spots for when you go out there, and they'll get it the rest of the way toasty after a few minutes...
Course then you'll be able to see everything, so might then turn into a painting project to boot. ;-)