Model 19's on Ebay

These are getting really expensive. Luckily not everyone is asking these kind of prices these days. His BIN is a few hundred more than what I paid for my two pair of 19's combined! (and his aren't even mint) His youtube video of the speakers playing is a much better audio recording than many videos I've heard that "audition" speakers. He plugged his microphone directly into his P.C. and didn't use a cheap condenser built in mic. on a camcorder or worse yet--a cell phone. Not a great recording, but better audio than most of this type that I've heard. Video quality is pretty lame--and a lot of his pics are dark/poor quality. He did know enough to have the woofers reconed/remagged at GPA so I give him credit for that. He has them hooked up to a McIntosh MC 275 and says he has two more pair in his TV room---obviously a man of discriminating taste! ;)

Altec Model 19 Altec Model Nineteen Speakers Pair 416-8B, 802-8G, Grills wow!!!! | eBay

How wonderful. At that price, they will remain his, and his wife will still be pissed!

There still are pairs at 1200-1400. For that I'd just keep looking. I have found no matter how high the price someone is always willing to charge it.:p

Absolutely beautiful!!!! yep that video was absolutely beautiful sounding.... If he see's that price I'll say what I always say, There's one born every minute.

You need to put into perspective compared to new speaker prices. $2600 for the pair is the same cost as two pair of brand new Bose 901's ($1300) and which do you think will sound twice as nice?

I listened to the video I might be wrong but it sounds like a bit of cross over fatigue. The mids are to high .

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I listened to the video I might be wrong but it sounds like a bit of cross over fatigue. The mids are to high .

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Personally I think it's straight off the CD and not really playing on the speakers...but that's just my opinion..

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Originally Posted by cradeldorf

Personally I think it's straight off the CD and not really playing on the speakers...but that's just my opinion..

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It is a relatively good audio recording compared to most videos of this type so I can see how you might think that. On my speakers here it does sound like a pretty good microphone recording as compared to many other videos of this type. Also, it's mono which makes sense because he says he plugged his microphone (singular) directly into his p.c.--so he's using one microphone to record a stereo source/stereo system. If it was straight off the CD it would almost always be stereo as it sounds like a relatively modern recording. Of course, there's no way to know with absolute certainty how the recording was made....

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I listened to the video I might be wrong but it sounds like a bit of cross over fatigue. The mids are to high .

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It has been my experience that whenever you put a microphone in front of a live band (or stereo system etc.) to get an "audience recording" that the resulting (direct, un-equalized) recording is usually kind of "midrangey" sounding for a variety of reasons including the fact that most microphones are not flat from 20-20,000 hz (they generally have somewhat of a rolled off response unless you're talking a VERY expensive microphone and even then due to placement etc. there are still issues with this type of recording setup). Not to mention you're kind of "chasing rainbows" trying to do any kind of critical evaluation of the sound of speakers or their crossovers with this type of video as your computer speakers are a real "bottleneck" (and the microphone is a bottleneck too as it adds it's own character to the recording). Even an ideally mic.d recording with high quality microphones will sound like your computer speakers and also be affected by (have some character from) the microphones used so trying to evaluate crossover fatigue on the speakers in the video by listening to them over your computer speakers is an iffy proposition at best. I still enjoy this kind of recording because it can sometimes, in a very rough/general way, give you some kind of idea of the character of the source speakers if you listen with high quality speakers or a nice pair of headphones plugged into your P.C. but you're still largely hearing the sound of your speakers/headphones and the mic. used. Basically, trying to do any kind of critical evaluation of speakers or their crossovers by listening to them through other speakers (and the mic. that was used) is not a good idea IMHO even though you sometimes feel you can tell something from this type of recording in a very general way....

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You need to put into perspective compared to new speaker prices. $2600 for the pair is the same cost as two pair of brand new Bose 901's ($1300) and which do you think will sound twice as nice?

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Adore that comment. IMHO the only use the 901s would have would be if I wanted the M19s up higher off the floor.

Oh, I just saw who the seller is. He is another one that has overpriced listings and wonders why things don't move.

Watching Altec prices on eBay as closely as I have done for the past 5 years, you get a feel for things. And a list of sellers, good and bad.

This video has a better sound tonality.

DSCF4141 - YouTube

I think anyone who thinks audio via Youtube over computer speakers sounds good has spent way too much time listening to MP3 and other forms of low-fi audio.
The only thing you learn is that the speakes seem to work. And that's it. Even that could be faked!

What happened to our green background?

Ron

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I think anyone who thinks audio via Youtube over computer speakers sounds good has spent way too much time listening to MP3 and other forms of low-fi audio.
The only thing you learn is that the speakes seem to work. And that's it. Even that could be faked!

What happened to our green background?

Ron

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I agree-most computer speakers are at least as much of a bottleneck as the Youtube compressed audio format. Which is why I said in my first post in this thread that it's "Not a great recording, but better audio than most of this type that I've heard". Also when one of our members was trying to critique the crossovers of the speakers being filmed in the Youtube video I said "trying to do any kind of critical evaluation of speakers or their crossovers by listening to them through other speakers (and the mic. that was used) is not a good idea"......

Also the reason I said in the same post that "you're kind of "chasing rainbows" trying to do any kind of critical evaluation of the sound of speakers or their crossovers with this type of video as your computer speakers are a real "bottleneck" (and the microphone is a bottleneck too as it adds it's own character to the recording). Even an ideally mic.d recording with high quality microphones will sound like your computer speakers and also be affected by (have some character from) the microphones used so trying to evaluate crossover fatigue on the speakers in the video by listening to them over your computer speakers is an iffy proposition at best."

I forgot to listen till the end when the vocal kicks in . The speakers are great sounding. I use sennheiser head phones and HP audio card.

Sold for $2,199.
Yowza.

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I think anyone who thinks audio via Youtube over computer speakers sounds good has spent way too much time listening to MP3 and other forms of low-fi audio.
The only thing you learn is that the speakes seem to work. And that's it. Even that could be faked!

What happened to our green background?

Ron

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I will second that !!!!!! You can try all you want but you'll never capture the true sound. I'm a testament to that.

Glad I bought mine when I did ! And for only $909 in Total Mint condition. Not a scratch on them anywhere. :Big smile:

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I think anyone who thinks audio via Youtube over computer speakers sounds good has spent way too much time listening to MP3 and other forms of low-fi audio.
The only thing you learn is that the speakes seem to work. And that's it. Even that could be faked!

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i have yet to read of anyone who thinks as such.

it isn't very hard to hear different tonal variations in youtube videos.

and i've got uninex headphones.

( 99 cents + tax )

this person has many speakers and combinations of equipment ,

including altec , easy to hear variations ...

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