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These are great tuned cabinets. Would make a fun DIY project with some new Mantarays, 902's and woofers from GPA (and build some crossovers). Or go with original vintage Model 14 woofers, crossovers and 902's... Good price on these as well
Altec Model 14 Speaker Cabinets
I chatted with the seller today.
It will cost me $$ to get them shipped. I've asked him for some additional pictures and some more info about their condition.
Anyone know what these have gone for in recent times?
Fedex site says Fla to Va two fifty pound boxes 72 bucks...
I was going to suggest you drive to pick them up--thinking Virginia to Florida--no big deal. Boy, does my sense of geography stink! I just did google maps and it's 14 hours from Virgina Beach to Port St. Lucie, Florida. I can tell you $40 is a great deal for a pair of these cabs if in good shape but not sure what empty 14 cabs "usually" go for.
EDIT: Looks like OG beat me to the punch. I just posted and see he got his comment in first. I can tell you $72 shipping plus $40 ($112 total) is well worth it IMHO. I love those cabs (and my 14's in general).....
still have to "trust" the seller to pack them appropriately.
U-ship is always worth a shot as well. FL to VA is a heavily traveled route, you may find a safer,cheaper ride with a moonlighter from a moving company or similar professional mover. uShip - The Online Shipping Marketplace - Ship Freight, Furniture, Cars or Moves
Wow, you guys are an absolute wealth of info!
Never heard of uShip - that is very cool. I was thinking if I could get them in nice shape for $150 I'd do it.
Then I really could do a WAF-ok project!!
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Just for info GPA makes that horn, around 21-22 bucks. And AFAIK blown 414's can be reconed as the correct woof? Somebody call me out if that's wrong...
14 and 15 woofers are odd ducks in the Altec woofer world. The 14 woofer has a bit more motor than the 15, but neither have the 3 inch VC of the 414 motor. Yet the bigger challenge is the mounting diameter and bolt circle, odd dimensions as the stock woofers have a 1 inch wide mounting rim and gasket. Overall diameter of my model 15 woofers is 13-1/2 inches.Quote:
Somebody call me out if that's wrong...
I've got a pretty clean pair of 414-8Cs:
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Will these work in the M14 cabs?
Thanks for the clarification Bowtie. That wide flange could be an issue...maybe not.
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I think the biggest issue with the 14 cabinets is if the cut-out is oversize for a standard 12 inch frame, and whether there's enough meat left to hold t-nuts. 15 cabinets are even more of a challenge because the baffle is milled for recessed mounting of the woofer.
Actually, according to Bill at GPA (who can re-cone these) the stock 34633 woofer for the Model 14 does have a 3 inch voice coil (he and Todd both speak very highly of this woofer) whereas the stock 33785 woofer for the Model 15 (which uses the same woofer as the Model 8 and 9) does not. The 34633 is a significant upgrade over it's predecessor, the 33785.....Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtie427ss
Yes, the 34633 Model 14 woofer does have a 13 1/2 frame......
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I think the 34633 woofer has a "2 inch" voice-coil.
and the 33785 has a "1.5 inch" voice-coil....?
It handles more power with a bigger(longer) motor and is 1.5db more sensitive. In room, in system the differences are pretty subtle. They're both very good sounding woofers. The 14 woofer will take a bit more pounding.Quote:
The 34633 is a significant upgrade over it's predecessor, the 33785.....
This sounds right to me. To me, the motor plates and ferrite ring do not seem big enough to support a larger diameter gap.Quote:
I think the 34633 woofer has a "2 inch" voice-coil.
and the 33785 has a "1.5 inch" voice-coil....?
I agree they both sound great. I used to own a pair of Model 9's which has the 33785 woofer and they were a nice sounding speaker system. I sometimes played them with the Valencias I used to own. Believe it or not, the Model 9's got deeper bass than the Valencias did--most likely the cabinet tuning on the 846A's was the culprit. With some EQ however, I could get those 416A's in the Vals to thump no problem! I recall at one point doing A/B comparisons between my Valencias and my AS 101's to see which sounded "better". The Valencias were 16 ohm (416A, 806A, stock Altec crossover), the AS 101's were 8 ohms (416-8A, 806-8A, stock Heathkit crossover) and I guess not surprisingly, they sounded pretty different from each other (but both kicked @ss). For one thing, the Valencias needed a little more bass EQ to get some "real" bass. A funny thing about those Model 9's--I originally put them on top of the Valencias so that when I was reviewing mixes of my (rock) band, I could switch back and forth from the Model 9's to the Valencias to make sure the mixes sounded good on both speaker systems. At one point, I was curious to hear how they'd sound playing simultaneously with the Vals. The Model 9's were a little less efficient, but when you played them with the Valencias at the same time (speaker A and B switch on the amp both on), they gave the Vals noticeably more sparkle and deeper bass. When you turned them off, the Valencias sounded much more "midrangey" and it took a few moments for my ears to become accustomed to them on their own without the extra sparkle and thump of the Model 9's added to them. I've since sold all of them to finance my 19's and 14's--in all three instances they went to avid audiophiles who really loved Altecs so I guess I take comfort that they are most likely still being enjoyed and cherished today.....Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtie427ss
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Hmm- noticing VOTT's sig
Being of "Sound" Mind
Perhaps he should add "And Bawdy"?
Good one! Took me a minute to get it though (I'll blame it on the late hour). Bawdy/Body. Hmmm, I'll leave that up to my wife to decide (for both words)... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Guy
By the way, there is a common (?) misconception that these woofers were manufactured by RCA because their part numbers are RCA 34633 and RCA 33785. They were in fact as you already know, manufactured by Altec. RCA 34633 stood for replacement cone assembly 34633 for future reference for re-coners (is that a word?).....Quote:
Originally Posted by bowtie427ss
