i'd settle for some of those cool decals
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i'd settle for some of those cool decals
Agreed. We could get some made as a group buy.
Does he do just vinyl or the old water-slide type decals? We'd have to decide what we want. I'm in if there is a G.B. I'd prefer the old water-slide type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altec Best
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panomaniac
Anything and everything ! And his work is Top-Notch.Put it this way Pano you won't be able to tell the difference they are that good..
Here's some stuff from Rudy's eBay store. http://www.ebay.com/sch/sign--shop/m...&_trksid=p3686
But to be accurate we would need the dimensions of the decal so he can make to scale.Does anyone here have a cab with that decal ?
OK guys I sent Rudy an email and he said to post it.He already has them made.Here is his reply to my email.Quote:
Originally Posted by valhallax
Thank you for the email. Nice to hear from you.
YES I do make the small gold/black Altec cabinet labels.
Actually I make about all labels and foilcals
I do pressure sensitive 1 mm thick. You can spray or brush a clear coat on the top, if you want to.
I shipped a #100 to Russia, and #50 to a dealer in California.
Please let me know....
Please post.
Regards, r.j
These came on the Melodist,820A,605A,612's,and maybe a couple other Altec cabs but all from the 40's to the early 60's I think.Not 100% sure..
Yeah I like the decals too. :)
Does anyone have a nice, clean file of that? Maybe Todd does? I can work on cleaning it up in Photoshop to make it print ready (I used to be a printer). Be nice to know if there is a reference color for the letters, Pantone or other. Also, how big should it be?
EDIT: Oops! Sorry, I missed the posts above.
Glad to hear they're 1mm thick, they'll be easy to spot!!! I'm with Pano on the water slide type decals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altec Best
Looks like AB's buddy also does some JBL water-slide style. Maybe we can get him to do them for us. If not, there's a fellow in Alabama who does custom guitar decals. We could ask him.
Yes they look a bit different.They must be hard to produce otherwise they would have been made already I a reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by cradeldorf
He has them already but they aren't exact IMHO... Take a look for comparison.The bottom part of the C looks off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panomaniac
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/40.jpg
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/41.jpg
That is a different Font. Probably the closest he could find that is readily available. Of course Altec may have had different versions over time.
I posted the artwork for that logo a few years ago. This link will get you to a small version hosted at photobucket. http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...cLineSmall.jpg I have the original autocad file somewhere so I can add the thickness to the outer lines. if need be.
Very nice, Marty. Me like! :) Agree, the lines could be about twice that thick. That gives us a beautiful, clean start.
AB, your decal looks good - is it self adhesive vinyl? I don't see any clear around it. Was it die cut?
(Also, can you split this off into its own Group Buy thread?)
I can furnish a clean macro photo of the Melodist decal if that would be any help in verifying the vector file.
I could use some of those decals...I have a 618 cab that could use a fresh one.Attachment 1394
Well.... I found most of the drawing. I shortened up the "tail" to match the pictures that have been posted. (mine was drawn over an older printed material scan) I think the line weight looks right now but you all can judge. It is easy to change so no big deal if it is wrong. I cant find the interior lettering but as I remember a slightly manipulated Arial font fit over the original well with the exception of the "s" Here is a link to a Jpeg http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...Alteclogo3.jpg
With minor change to the 'C' that is very close to the original text. Copyright symbol is missing.
Interesting. They must have used some different version. See below outline from printed material overlaid on decal.
If all else fails I could do a redraw in Illustrator If needed. Most sign shops will only accept the vector formatted type of file. I really want the water type ones though, the cut vinyl just looks too new and not really what I would put on my cabs.
Also the font has a 3D look to it in that one Geekstar posted. Or it could just be wax or crud that's making it look 3D.
That one from the Melodist does have gold shading that creates a pseudo 3-D effect, but the one on my 618 cabs pictured below, does not. Also lacking the trademark symbol.
Shared between the two is the "small caps" look and fairly wide letter spacing.
These could be printed on an Alps opaque printer (which will do metallic ink) on water slide paper. I don't have any of this technology but it exists. If we had a proper vector file, we could probably enlist one of the ebay sellers who does such decals for models or whatnot to print some up.
Attachment 1397
Hey Geekstar, Does that look like a water slide decal to you or does it look more silk screened? I can't tell just wondering if you see any additional clear substrate or is it just the letters?
Pano, Is there any way to increase the contrast between the brown wood and black lines in the photo you posted? If so I should be able to fix up the line drawing to match.
I wasn't able to easily, no. Not enough difference between them. I'll have another shot at it this PM.
Here is a black and white scan from an old lit sheet. Dunno if helps.
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/50.jpg
Definitely water slide. With a jewelers loupe, I can see the edges of the film where it is chipped away.
Is two color silkscreen like that even possible?
With a registration system it is. Mainly on flat surfaces though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geekstar
Try drawing just the Yellow part and then add a stroke on them and keep upping the stroke thickness till it's right. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh45
Here's one with a white background. Lost most of the black outline though. Needs a bit of pixel by pixel cleanup but good for an idea.Attachment 1398
What I’m seeing is that the photographs are slightly distorted. Unless someone can get a dead square and centered photo we will be dealing with that. It might be best to pick a scan that looks right. Looking back through literature scans it seem that logo evolved over time. The version I posted originally is from the 49 catalog. The logo in the 45 duplex catalog looks closer to me but to tell the truth I never really noticed a difference before.
Does look like there were some changes. The version Old Guy posted is nice. OG, got a larger version of that?
That was an actual size scan from a piece of lit, from around 1950. Unfortunately didn't have access to my home scanner had to do it on theirs. A re-sample starts to look pretty crappy.
here is a place to get water decal paper. Wondering how a color laser at FedEx Kinko's could do?
http://www.decalpaper.com/
OK, thanks. I had a quick stab at cleaning it up and turning it into a vector file, but as you say, bigger it starts to get sloppy. Too bad, it would be an ideal to work from. Maybe some else will have better luck than I.
I started on a font hunt today and found a really nice virus, wiped my ass clean. >: ( The font "Bicycle" was really close to what were looking for.
What about the logo on this sheet? http://www.lansingheritage.org/image.../604/page1.jpg It is big enough for me to work with
A 3D one off a '52 820 and plain one off the XO:
GM
FWIW I think there are 3 or 4 different variations of this decal through the years. Subtle differences maybe different printing Co. through Altecs history.
Here's a couple ! Just missing the R trademark circle.. On these catalog pages.
Look at the difference between these two, one from 1945 and the latter 1949.
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/51.jpg
And the latter page from 1949.
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/52.jpg
And here is a decal I saved from an 820 cabinet on eBay.Notice the differences between GM's 820 picture and my 820 picture.This may create some confusion they are all not the same decal guys.Some are Gold and Black and others Silver and Black.And the same one blown up.These should help... :cool:
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/53.jpg
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/54.jpg
Dug around found a Pro catalog circa 1955 here is the logo from it
http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2012/06/55.jpg
I think I'm gonna scan and post as I haven't seen this one on the net.
I think I am getting closer to the common decal. Any thoughts on this? http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...Alteclogo7.jpg
Regarding the style to purchase... I like the true metallic gold version. My thoughts before this group buy came up was to cut a glue mask and use gold leaf with a waterslide decal of the outline over the top.
Works for me.
GM
count me in.
