dude... when i asked how come they didn't mention
what happened... i meant: wtf did he get in
that predicament???
and thanks cya [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
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dude... when i asked how come they didn't mention
what happened... i meant: wtf did he get in
that predicament???
and thanks cya [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
yeah, there's this huge rock that falls on your arm.
But how did you ever get that arm under it, without breaking it before?
I smell something stupid coming up.
but was he under the boulder???
maybe it was a rock slide and his arm got
wedged some other way... it DID say he stood
most of the time
hmmm, true..
still, i wonder how it happened.
from an animalistic stance, i don't see it as
being all that heroic or great. animals would
do the same thing.
however, when viewing humans... i consider this
interesting... and slightly appauling that
spirituality has, once again, sunk the talons in.
BOOOOO! [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img]
you know, i think that animals do the same, on an emotional level.
But I would like to hear your thoughts.
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GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (Reuters) - A mountaineer facing death after being pinned by an 800-pound boulder in the Utah desert said on Thursday he had to break his arm bone before he could cut the limb off with a dull knife.
Aron Ralston, 27, said in the beginning of his five-day ordeal he threw his body against the rock to free himself and then tried to chip away at it before realizing his only chance to live was to cut off his arm.
'At no point was I ever able to get the boulder to budge even microscopically,' Ralston told reporters at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Junction, Colorado, where he is recuperating.
Ralston was rescued last week Thursday after cutting off his right arm, then rappelling down a canyon and hiking about six miles before he came across two Dutch hikers. He was airlifted to hospital.
After three days of being stuck and after having eaten the last few crumbs in a candy bar wrapping, he decided to amputate his right arm.
But he made little progress. He started sawing back and forth with his pocketknife to no avail. The knife was so dull that he could not even cut the hair on his arm.
Two days later he realized he had to do something while he was still coherent. 'It was the last opportunity I would have and still have the physical strength to get out,' he said.
HAD TO BREAK THE BONES
'It occurred to me I could break my bones,' he said as his mother, who was near tears, sat by his side.
First the radius snapped just above his wrist. He kept twisting his arm and a few minutes later the ulna broke. The whole process, including setting out bandages and first aid supplies, took about an hour.
He said all he could do was endure the pain. 'I felt pain and I coped with it.'
He said his courage came from being 'pragmatic.'
Ralston, a former engineer at Intel Corp. who lives in Aspen, Colorado, had set off for a one-day trip on Saturday, April 26, hiking and rock climbing in Utah's Canyonlands National Park.
While admitting that he should not have been alone and that he should at least have left his itinerary with someone, Ralston said what befell him could not have been avoided.
'Once that boulder came to rest there was no way I would be released in time to save my hand and arm,' he told reporters.
He said his surgeon told him the arm suffered significant soft tissue damage and loss of circulation.
He said different emotions flooded his body at different times during his five day ordeal. At first it was all adrenaline flowing, but then he realized he had to calm down.
He said he looks forward to getting out of the hospital and getting back to the outdoors.
'I'm looking forward to a giant margarita,' he said.
When Ralston walked into a room for the news conference he held up a camera to take pictures of the assembled press. 'These are for me,' he said, smiling.
In the desert his moods ranged from focusing on solving his dilemma to depression and remorse.
He barely slept during the ordeal and had run out of water after three days.
Because of the way he was pinned by the boulder he stood for most of the time until he fashioned a seat from the ropes he had with him.
He said he kept thinking about his family and friends. 'There was a presence in that canyon. I felt the presence of my family and my friends,' he said.
yeah thats all nice....
but how come it doesn't say HOW he did it?
no diagram... no image... no nothing!
"On the fourth day, a day after his first attempt to cut his arm, Ralston went through the motions of applying a tourniquet, laid out bike shorts to absorb the blood and got his gear ready for a quick getaway. He worked out how to get through the bone with his "multi-tool"-type knife, made duller by futile attempts to chip away at the rock.
"Basically, I got my surgical table ready," he said.
On the fifth day, he summoned up all his technique and nerve:
"I was able to first snap the radius and then within another few minutes snap the ulna at the wrist and from there, I had the knife out and applied the tourniquet and went to task. It was a process that took about an hour," he said.
"
damn...ouch...damn
A quote for you, my dear:
"Slim and pale with short reddish-brown hair, Ralston made frequent references to prayer and spirituality during his news conference. He said he felt a surge of energy on the fifth day, which happened to be the National Day of Prayer.
"I may never fully understand the spiritual aspects of what I experienced, but I will try," he said. "The source of the power I felt was the thoughts and prayers of many people, most of whom I will never know."
AHHHH on a side note I read they went back up retrieved his arm and took it to a funeral home. WEIRD.. but you can see it all and here it from his mouth directly from our local news..
click below...sound sucks though
Man Who had arm crushed lives!
or click below for news4 link maybe better
<font color="#c0c0c0" size="1">[ May 09, 2003 12:45 AM: Message edited by: Cyalaytr ]</font>
Man survives after cutting off arm
CYA
<font color="#c0c0c0" size="1">[ May 09, 2003 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Cyalaytr ]</font>
Too bad Shatzy doesn't get TV reception. This was all over the news last night TOO, along with the video of that JACKAASS copycat fool. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Well, as foolish as this might sound. I would rather die. Most of you can guess what I'm about to say, but it's true, I could not, by my own hand, take away my love for guitar.
I would find away to move that damn rock. This guy looks like a damn fool. Tells no one where he's going, has no cell phone, but thinks ahead to bring enough food and water to ration for 3 days?
Look, I’m sure It’s hard to understand the mind set you would get in from such a thing happening. However, losing my arm would not be an option.
If you can't cut the rock, dig in the dirt, if it's on a rock, dig that rock out. If it's on a big rock, think of way to use the water to slide your arm out, or use the water to soften up where you need to cut away at the rock.
I could go on and on, in 5 days I would not be out of ideas, or hope. That's too soon to start cutting away at my arm. This guy's no hero, he's a damn chicken, he started planning to cut his arm off on JUST DAY 3, and if faith and prayers got him out of that, where was his faith in God to save him while stuck there?
He took matters into his own hands, and he's missing an arm to show for it.
yeah... i'm sure you could never be a good musician without both arms
... isfs ...
i dont think you can say that for sure until youve been there, gary.
i really doubt he WANTED to cut his arm off.
Don't be so sure.....
Does anyone know what this guy did for a living?
He's famous now. Would you cut off your arm for fame? Some would......
Do you have any idea how hard it is to mutilate yourself?
dont be a fucktard.
of course i dont.
Ever tried to cut yourself ? Just to see if you could it? Heck, or slapped yourself in the face?
I mean, this sounds silly, but it's hard to hurt yourself, besides the pain you start anticipating the pain when you start considering hurting yourself. And personally i'd hate to really hurt myself, i don't see the reason for it.
on a side note, that slapping in the face helps keep you awake though.
dude...
the guy didnt cut his arm off for shits and giggles.
i know, his life depended on it.
I wasn't talking about that to be honest,
but i was kind of replying to this :
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Don't be so sure.....
Does anyone know what this guy did for a living?
He's famous now. Would you cut off your arm for fame? Some would......
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oh
*goes back to trying yo-yo tricks*
get some pics / movies on yo-yo tricks, that would be cool
naturally the tangent about self-induced pain made
me INSTANTLY wanna go on the philo deep end....
but i shall refrain....
I'm still quite drunk right now, so please excuse my poor grammar. My point was, which everyone has missed........
There this guy was, and after 3 days, decided to cut off his arm. I'm just saying, with all the media he has gotten, the thought of being famous must have crossed his mind....
for being drunk, you posted perfectly! [img]smile.gif[/img]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#000000"><font size=2 face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">Originally posted by shatzy:
naturally the tangent about self-induced pain made
me INSTANTLY wanna go on the philo deep end....
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make a new post! i'd love to see what philo deep ideas you've got about this.