(OT) Cellulose phragms anyone?
A strange compound for a phragm wouldn't you say?
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Layers on the BS doesn't he?
It's been used before. Essentially just paper.
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Layers on the BS doesn't he?
Never trust a nail biter.
I love the premise "i've heard them all and these are the best, so i'm selling them".
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bowtie427ss
Never trust a nail biter.
I love the premise "i've heard them all and these are the best, so i'm selling them".
Same premise with gold sales. Whenever the economy goes in the tank all the commercials for gold start up again saying the price is going to go through the roof and it's the best investment on the planet. If it was such a good investment, why are you selling it?
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alancohen
Same premise with gold sales. Whenever the ecomomy goes in the tank all the commercials for gold start up again saying the price is going to go through the roof and it's the best investment on the planet. If it was such a good investment, why are you selling it?
The problem is that those commercials aren't selling gold. They're selling you a worthless piece of paper that says you own gold.................. which likely does not physically exist.
Gold and Silver in their actual physical state will always be, and have always been excellent long term investments. But, to be secure investments, you need to possess precious metals in their physical state, not in "shorts", or certificates, or any other fungible proxy.
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bowtie427ss
Gold and Silver in their actual physical state will always be, and have always been excellent long term investments. But, to be secure investments, you need to possess precious metals in their physical state, not in "shorts", or certificates, or any other fungible proxy.
Gold is good in lean times fer sure...in fat times other investments can outperform it. Key is be adaptable...one size doesn't fit all.
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Old Guy
Gold is good in lean times fer sure...in fat times other investments can outperform it. Key is be adaptable...one size doesn't fit all.
Oh i certainly agree, especially for the short term return. Now, if i just had the means to put the knowledge to work.:(
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so in effect your not buying something with diaphrams. but something with paper that says its diaphrams.
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Phil-G
so in effect your not buying something with diaphrams. but something with paper that says its diaphrams.
actually, paper that "is" it's diaphragms.;)
In all seriousness, i believe they could sound very good. Paper has made for some awfully good sounding tweeters and extended range drivers over the years, not to mention woofers. It(paper) can certainly achieve a lot of the characteristics we'd want in a diaphragm material.
They remind me a bit of the Korean Hanji paper used to make woofer cones.
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Check out their 15 inch extended range driver. The cone is cellulose and balsa wood with a leather surround, and it has a sorta familiar looking phenolic spider. http://itishifi.blogspot.com/2010/12/atelier-rullit-projects.html
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bowtie427ss
actually, paper that "is" it's diaphragms.;)
In all seriousness, i believe they could sound very good. Paper has made for some awfully good sounding tweeters and extended range drivers over the years, not to mention woofers. It(paper) can certainly achieve a lot of the characteristics we'd want in a diaphragm material.
They remind me a bit of the Korean Hanji paper used to make woofer cones.
couldnt help that one. :) they probobly sound really good. but i can't see 6000$ really good.
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Phil-G
couldnt help that one. :) they probobly sound really good. but i can't see 6000$ really good.
It really depends on the sound and pocketbook i guess.
For reference E speakers currently gets $4295.00 ea for the TAD TD-4002(a top shelf 2 inch compression driver), i won't say they're the best, but most will agree they push the bar quite high. If the AT's are truly a top shelf driver, the price is quite reasonable.
OTOH, you can just get a proper pair of 288's and have about 99% of what the TAD's offer, and a whole lotta change left over, and no danger of Beryllium poisoning.:D
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bowtie427ss
I love the premise "i've heard them all and these are the best, so i'm selling them".
the difference here may be that he builds/rebuilds these for sale.
from the 'orange forum' -
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bowtie427ss
OTOH, you can just get a proper pair of 288's and have about 99% of what the TAD's offer, and a whole lotta change left over, and no danger of Beryllium poisoning.:D
The 288G has been referred to as "poor man's TAD' on multiple occasions. But at say 1200 for a super clean pair vs the price of the TADs it's a no brainer for me...