Re: Original or Reconed 416?
Post the cone number stamped on the rear of the cone. It is often hard to see so have a close look.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
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Originally Posted by
mah
Post the cone number stamped on the rear of the cone. It is often hard to see so have a close look.
I will ask the seller to look for it! Thanks!
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
Black damper, crayon handwriting on the cone, definitely a re-cone IMO. Perhaps a factory kit from the EV days(junk IMO).
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
When did EV stop using Altec supplied components in their recone kits?
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
21184-x will be an original 416 cone.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
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mah
When did EV stop using Altec supplied components in their recone kits?
Not sure how the kits were put together during those EV years, the cone itself "might" be correct, but it should bear a silver ink stamped 21183 or 21184 IIRC that is the original cone number.
i'm not hep on the dates but i think there's a window from sometime 1981ish to sometime 1983ish where the 416-8C came with those same dampers. Among those who's knowledge and experience i trust those are felt to be the most inferior 416's made.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
In the absence of a cone number I have to back Bowtie's assessment.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
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magnarc
21184-x will be an original 416 cone.
I think the original 416-8B's will show 21183, the 21184 was some how revised and followed, no clue where that cutoff is though.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
I know that EV assigned their own numbers to Altec supplied components and supplied a cross-reference chart to service centres. I think this indicates that original Altec numbers were retained on the parts. I don't know how long this arrangement lasted.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
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bowtie427ss
I think the original 416-8B's will show 21183, the 21184 was some how revised and followed, no clue where that cutoff is though.
All the 416-8B's I have seen had the 21184-4 cone number..Never seen a 21183 on a 416-8B. IIRC It was a different woofer..
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
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Altec Best
All the 416-8B's I have seen had the 21184-4 cone number..Never seen a 21183.
I'll have to sift thru some discs, i'm almost positive that the 416-8B's in my 846B valencias had 21183 on the cones, been a long long time. But, i have a pic somewhere showing the broken tinsel lead that helped me get them for a song, the cone number is in the background. I'll do some searching later.
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
Thank you guys for all the useful info!
Abe
Re: Original or Reconed 416?
I know the 21184-x was present on the 15 inch variant of the 416s I had, and the 515B and 604E, plus my 416-8Bs are 21184-4. Maybe Bowtie yours were 21184-3? My E's have 21184-2.
Then again, Altec did weird things....., as we all know!