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Place Racing actually. But Hasport is better than HCP. I really prefer Place Racing now because that's all they make there money from is the hybrid mounts and install parts....I just had seen a B16A install with there parts and I liked it too...rode very well.
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I really liked the throttle linkage repositioning bracket Place sells....allows you to use the Si throttle linkage instead of getting the rather large integra B18A 90-93 linkage.
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jon..i'll probably end up emailing you when i do my swap in about a month, but something i was curious about..how does the wiring match up with a 5 series b16a, PW0 ecu, and the 89 si harness? i know i need to add the vtec wires..i played it safe and got the hasport wires..but are all the other ecu wires the same? also, i was wondering..the SiR gauge cluster doesn't use a cable speedo, so w/ an SiR cluster and a y1 tranny, would i have to run wires from the vss in the tranny straight to the cluster? how does that work? thanks man
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-Ben L.
1989 Civic Si
1990 300ZX TT Stage III
"jon..i'll probably end up emailing you when i do my swap in about a month"
...no prob
"how does the wiring match up with a 5 series b16a, PW0 ecu, and the 89 si harness?"
...very few differences.
"i know i need to add the vtec wires..i played it safe and got the hasport wires..but are all the other ecu wires the same?"
...That's what I recommend is buying there subharness for $70 bucks if your doing the install yourself. Just ziptie it along the Si harness and your set. I beleive they give you directions also - or they should.
"the SiR gauge cluster doesn't use a cable speedo, so w/ an SiR cluster and a y1 tranny, would i have to run wires from the vss in the tranny straight to the cluster? how does that work?"
...Truthfully, I don't know. I think there are two or three wires that run there....but I do know the VSS is relocated to the tranny on the SiR and 92+ model civics. However I really never wanted to get that deep into all the wiring for that. Sorry, no idea of anyone that would know either? However I would say one thing about the VSS piece on the Tranny...my SiR's VSS never went out but a friends did! And they are very ahrd to come by in Okinawa. Not sure about stateside, but they do throw a code 17 or something - speed sensor. But that's about all my knowledge on those.
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If anyone has question on the install, post here.
I am also posting my SiR Axles for sale here. But I didn't want to crowd up the board with for sale posts...so I am sneaking this in.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=597439741
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welcome back NC_Rex..I hear you were on vacation http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/cool.gif
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI
4-doors rock & I am ready for that ZC! I hope 91zc gets his b16 soon Muhahahahaha!!
Not really a q on the install...but which mount kit do you recommend? HCP or Hasport?
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1991 Civic 4dr
ZC
Zdyne Ecu
Si tranny
Thermal R&D exhaust
Iceman
Chikara header
Weapon R Circuit Pro
KYB AGX's
Powerslot Rotors
AEM/Nissin Pads
Going B16 soon
I'm looking for a good deal on Y2LSD S80 tranny mounts (one of them is a tranny/motor mount)
My friend has a B18c6 swapped in his 4th gen but the ITR tranny won't fit on the B16 mounts (what surprised us both)
There are some problems with providing enough clearance for the tranny to move around safely.. but that will be taken care off (see pic)
http://crxfiles.hondapowered.com/b18.../EE8-Y2-02.JPG
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[This message has been edited by REX VT (edited November 02, 2001).]
Well I don't know entirely too much about the B18C tranny/Type-R Tranny installs into the 4G 88-91 models. However I do know this (and it will help you deduct some reason). The B18C1 and B18C5 have the same rear mount....and I would also imagine the same is true for the Civic Del Sol VTEC models and Civic SiR models since your in europe. The DOHC VTEC Trannies for 92+ I beleive share all the same rear mounts. However I am not certain of the regular B18B Integra Models....these might be more of flat torque mount instead of what your looking for.
I can look at that today and see. However I beleive I have a B18C1 GSR Rear Mount on hand somewhere in my parts.
What kind of kit did you use and what hydro adaptor are you using as well? just interested.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>What kind of kit did you use and what hydro adaptor are you using as well? just interested.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
He didn't use the ITR tranny since there is no mount, but we would have used the ITR pedals.
Speedo sensor: the Y2 mechanic speedo sensor fits in the ITR tranny or we would have had to swap the ITR dashboard as well
He now uses the SiR's Y2 (yes they came on EDM SiR) tranny for now. Perhaps he's gonna have an aftermarket LSD installed or the ITR LSD fitted inside his Y2 tranny (it can)
Lot's of work to swap this engine.. it's much easier to drop in a GSR B18c1 (which uses the B16 ECU) and build up the block..
But then again you couldn't put a type R badge on the car now would you? http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Questions: no problem ...finally someone who can appreciate the tons of work involved..
Whomever said b16 to b18c6 swap is easy ??
check out this directory on my site..
http://crxfiles.hondapowered.com/b18-project
My friend Radek is writing an article on the swap which will be put on the site soon..
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>ITR pedals...so your's is right-hand drive. Where did you mount the resevoir...have any engine pics?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
nope left hand drive.. we got the ITR in Europe as well
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>B-series LSD's fit all B-series Casings except teh B20 I beleive.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Problem is not weather it will fit the engine but will it fit the damn enginebay! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Man I like your site....Check out these RIMS!
http://crxfiles.hondapowered.com/babes/am07.jpg
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But seriously, besides the rather nice S2000 pic...
You used a B16A 2G Tranny instead of the GSR correct? Not it's not fully ITR. And it created framerail intereference...but that's all right.
...haha, I'm dying over this one, totally unrealted, but you've got uBid.com spam all over your site....I work for them, LOL !!! ...and your in Europe...hahaha
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[This message has been edited by NC_Rex (edited November 02, 2001).]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>B16A 2G Tranny <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Euro SiR came with the Y2 http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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So you did not use a mount kit like a hasport or some kinda of place racing specialty kit?
ITR pedals...so your's is right-hand drive. Where did you mount the resevoir...have any engine pics?
The Y2 sensor is off of the 92-95 Civic SiRII correct...the EG models right...that Y2 tranny correct.
B-series LSD's fit all B-series Casings except teh B20 I beleive.
"Lot's of work to swap this engine.. it's much easier to drop in a GSR B18c1 (which uses the B16 ECU) and build up the block.."
..It's the same dimensions? Just your using a very very large transaxle...the engine is basically the same except for the harness you will using...nothing else is affected.
Sorry for all the questions....but jsut really interested...more pics would be great!
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hey Jon, quick easy stupid question.
next week we're putting a b16a into my 90 si, which header model should i order? will a regular 88-91 header fit? if i remeber right it does, getting ready to order one and i can't remeber.
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webpage, yeah it's lame.
don't go there!!
http://4gcivic.tripod.com
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Raider1911:
hey Jon, quick easy stupid question.
next week we're putting a b16a into my 90 si, which header model should i order? will a regular 88-91 header fit? if i remeber right it does, getting ready to order one and i can't remeber.
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ones from a 99-2000 Si(SiR) work just fine. YOu only run a single O2 sensore. You just need to wire it right, ahhh how to do it, some one here should know, just not me, hehehe http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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1991 Civic Si b16a with a b18c5 waiting for spring
The 99-00 Civic Si I beleive are too long or too short...one or the other...so you'll have to adjust the exhuast length and cat.
I know they make B18A 90-91 Integra Headers....but I think they are a little long. However I think you use the top section with the bottom section of the 92-93 Integra GSR Header. I've been told that works.
You may just want to also try Kamakazee...I know they make those headers.
Truthfully....I has an RSR Header from Japan for my B16A before I sold it off ages ago. But I've never ran into anyone with a B16A header for a 1G so I really am not a good source of information on em. Sorry.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NC_Rex:
The 99-00 Civic Si I beleive are too long or too short...one or the other...so you'll have to adjust the exhuast length and cat.
I know they make B18A 90-91 Integra Headers....but I think they are a little long. However I think you use the top section with the bottom section of the 92-93 Integra GSR Header. I've been told that works.
You may just want to also try Kamakazee...I know they make those headers.
Truthfully....I has an RSR Header from Japan for my B16A before I sold it off ages ago. But I've never ran into anyone with a B16A header for a 1G so I really am not a good source of information on em. Sorry.
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i run a DC 4-2-1 99/00 b16 header and it bolted up fine??
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1991 Civic Si b16a with a b18c5 waiting for spring
I'll take another look at the stock Exhuast manifold from the 00 Civic Si B16A2 engine I have and comapre it to an CRX Si Manifold...I beleive the difference is that it is very very long.
However the headers may use extension piece...this is what I found to be true in the difference between a CRX SiR and an Integra XSi in Okinawa...RSR makes a 5 inch extension piece for the integra to use the same B16A header.
Again...I haven't seen anyone here with a header in a B16A Civic or CRX 88-91. I just know the most about stock parts and their swappability. But I'll take a look at the stock exhuast manifolds length tommorrow.
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