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anyone have links to some good 4 door sites? i'm seriously considering picking up a 4 door for my daily driver...no mods (okay, maybe some rims and coilovers).
i'm just not sure what year or model i want yet. if it were a hatch...i'd already know i wanted an '89 Si http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif i'm also curious to see what people are "doing" to their 4 doors these days.
any links are appreciated! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
ami
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www.4thgenerationcivic.com
"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"
My Si:
http://www.members.tripod.com/4thgencivic/id41.htm
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As the proud owner of a 90 4dr LX, id be more than happy to answer any questions you have http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif post it here, or email me : [email protected]
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1990 Civic LX(4door
power!)
ZC swap
Chikara header
Red wires and
valve cover
A system too
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I just picked up a 4dr for my brother. Check out my site: http://www.geocities.com/teamarc2002/Chris.htm
I couldnt get this to produce a link, how do I do this for future reference?
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97 Civic- lsvtec
89 4dr civic-zc(soon)
86 buick- winter beater
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Ok, nevermind about the link http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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97 Civic- lsvtec
89 4dr civic-zc(soon)
86 buick- winter beater
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I don't really know any other sites except the ones that were mentioned. Right now I am completing my b16 swap, swapping out my coilovers for lowering springs, and getting new tires. Soon I am going to have my PR3 ecu chipped and maybe add some cams and valvetrain upgrades. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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Mmmmmm 4-doors!!!!
OK..let's see here - this one is for the Yahoo Groups 4th gen 4-door 'club' - not too bad...lots of young kids wanting to know about 4-door Altezza's and stuff, but a few have tinkered with motor swaps and lot of them have lowered their rides. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/fourthgenerationfourdoor
Good choice Ami - 4-doors rule. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI & other mods which only add weight ;)
4-doors kick butt & I am patiently waiting for 91zc to pull that ZC!! I hope it is not fried!! Oh well..i did say I was willing to rebuild in my old sig didn't I? I guess here is my chance ;)
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sastanley:
Mmmmmm 4-doors!!!!
OK..let's see here - this one is for the Yahoo Groups 4th gen 4-door 'club' - not too bad...lots of young kids wanting to know about 4-door Altezza's and stuff, but a few have tinkered with motor swaps and lot of them have lowered their rides. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/fourthgenerationfourdoor
Good choice Ami - 4-doors rule. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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I think the 4drs are taking over. Muhahahahhahahaha http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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I have only owned civic hb's(three of them) but i have always loved the four doors!
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Thank god for negative camber.
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hmmm,,let me see,, http://www.geocities.com/fourgcivic/
if that site doesnt work try it again http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Ami,
From what I have heard the 90s are your best bet. not shure of any spasifics (please excuse spelling) the lx offers power stearing, windows, mirors. I know that the 90-91 have a tach in the panel for the lx, im not shure about the dx or the 88-89.
there is not much on the web about 4 doors.
but most of what I have found can be found on this link page http://www.carpage.tmfweb.nl/civiclinkslow.htm
good luck
Logan
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[email protected]
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thanks for the help everyone. i've owned 4 hatches and one CRX http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif so i think it's time to try something new.
i once heard the EX model has them same engine+tranny as the Si (d16a6) set-up. can anyone confirm or deny this?
thanks EVERYONE!
ami
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www.4thgenerationcivic.com
"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"
My Si:
http://www.members.tripod.com/4thgencivic/id41.htm
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ladynredsi:
thanks for the help everyone. i've owned 4 hatches and one CRX http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/eek.gif so i think it's time to try something new.
i once heard the EX model has them same engine+tranny as the Si (d16a6) set-up. can anyone confirm or deny this?
thanks EVERYONE!
ami
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The ex does indeed have the d16a6 although I believe the transmission is geared differently. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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yeah, ex and si have the same engine, different tranny.
speaking of 4doors, anyone got one they want to sell? i need a new one badly!!!
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322,000 miles and still goin strong!
1990 Civic 4 door
Toucan CAI
Big Honkin' AutoMeter Tach
Some HUGE 13" Konig Reign's
Short shifter w/ Type R knob
And rust, er, weight reduction
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What I've found out about Civic Sedans:
EX is a D16A6 Si Engine, but auto configuration. Only made in 90-91. It has larger front brakes and a larger master cylinder (comaprable to the integra - same specs) than the other models - LX and DX.
All Sedans come with rear drums. However if you were to upgrade - the rear discs off an Integra and their E-Brake lines are the exact length - so it's a swap-over, jsut make sure to reuse your Civic upper, lower and front compensator arms on teh trailing arm swap.
LX and DX are both D15B2 Hatch DX engines. The only MPFI is the EX Sedan 90-91.
From what I've seen the EX Sedan comes in White - Black, Maroon - Maroon, Metallic Blue - Blue, and Black - Black or Grey - not sure.
I've seen some 90-91 models LX come with Tach's....however any 90-91 model Civic or CRX have swappable instrument cluster that plug-in...the wiring is already there.
The EX Sedan is not available in Canada - they never got one.
All Sedans had more options, and I think these were with power locks and power windows like an accord. Power Steering came on all of them as far as I know, and I could be wrong about that. Not sure about rear wipers.
EX Model like the Civic and CRX Si had 14" Tires and a stock 195 profile which is about an inch larger in rolling diameter then the DX and LX D15B2 models which came with 185-70R13s
JDM Models came with the DOHC ZC and the SOHC ZC. And the interiors on them were really really nice, not like stateside.
Weigh of the Sedan is about 2350 if I had to estimate it. The ZC Swap into one of these didn't do much of jack from a guy that lived two apartments over in NC. I think a B18 would have been more appropriate.
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My DX sedan has no power steering, windows or locks.
Oh yea my ZC in my sedan dropped 2.2 seconds off my quarter mile time. 17.8-> 15.6
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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Here is my personal list about sedans: (not to pick a fight but since I own one I notice these things.)
EX sedan - d16a6, power locks/windows/steering, nice seats, moonroof, auto tranny, A/C. I personally have never seen a 5-speed EX, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. 14" steelies with covers.
LX sedan - d15b2 motor - power locks/windows/steering. A/C an option. Autos and 5-speeds avail. Nicer seats than a DX but not much. Generally darker colored, slightly more plush interiors - Painted bumpers - 13" steel wheels with covers
DX sedan - d15b2, power steering optional (i don't have it) A/C optional (I do have that http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif), manual locks/windows. Auto and 5-speeds. 13" steel with covers. Black plastic bumpers. '90-91 models got rear headrests to spruce up the interior.
The weight reported by NC_Rex sounds about right for a sedan. 91zc says the sedan weighs about the same as an Si hatch and I'll buy that, but it may be a little less. The sticker on my car says the max Gross weight for the car is 3250 (with peeps in it), so with 5 passengers (x 200lbs????) the car itself might be a little less, like 2300 or so.
I would say that my seats are probably the same as the seats in a DX hatch tho...The interior isn't all that much "nicer". My seats are cloth on the sitting part, but the back and sides are plastic (vinyl) and the headliner is plastic too.
The stock tires on the DX/LX sedans are 175/70/13s. I think 185/60/14 on the EX.
I WISH my sedan had come with a DOHC ZC stock (damn JDM cars!!! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif - and I suspect that the 130HP will help my 1/4 mile time about the same as 91zc's - My only run at the track with the stock d15b2 motor was 18.078.
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI & other mods which only add weight http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
Well...now if I wasn't sick I could drive to PA to get that motor! *coff* *coff* - Hopefully by this weekend 91zc will only have one motor for his car and I will have two! http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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Here is the weight that I have found at quite a few sites:
1988:
DX=2039 lbs
LX=2138 lbs
1989:
DX=2147 lbs
LX=2211 lbs
1990:
DX=2262 lbs
LX=2322 lbs
EX=2374 lbs
All of these weights are for the manual models. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sastanley:
EX sedan - d16a6, power locks/windows/steering, nice seats, moonroof, auto tranny, A/C. I personally have never seen a 5-speed EX, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. 14" steelies with covers.
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moonroof? not to say i don't believe you..i have never seen one. i would love to find one with a moonroof (my Si has spoiled me)
and i have been watching autotrader.com and others lately. i have seen a couple of 5 speed LX's and EX's. i don't know if they came stock that way or were converted. living in the snow, i perfer the 5 speed (stupid auto's always getting stuck http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/frown.gif )
wow Jon, i thought you just dwelled on the hatch, crx, and integras. just goes to show you can learn something new about a person every day http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
ami
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www.4thgenerationcivic.com
"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"
My Si:
http://www.members.tripod.com/4thgencivic/id41.htm
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Here is the weight that I have found at quite a few sites:
1988:
DX=2039 lbs
LX=2138 lbs
Hey 91zc, where did you find those sepcs, cause i have an 88 4 door dx, and that is really light, but i dont think i doubt it, cause my car seems quicker than it should be if you know what i mean.
adam
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When you see the lights and hear the sirens, head for the nearest road with the most turns.
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Oh yeah, to all of you 4 door owners out there, a great upgrade that shouldnt cost much is integra seats. i've had mine for about 3 months now and i love em!!! definetly one of the better things i've done to my car!
Adam
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When you see the lights and hear the sirens, head for the nearest road with the most turns.
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I got my specs from www.carpoint.msn.com
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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my friend has a beater 4 door...a6 engine, moonroof (just like my hatch Si), nicely appointed interior with a tach, 14" steelies with covers and a 5 speed. it is the light blue color that come on DX hatches, and it has a nuetral gray interior. i don't know what the trim was, but it looks like it used to have an 'EX' badge on it. it was fairly quick too. spanked my 91 SI..but then again, i have an SI with a d15 swap..haha.
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Who dosent love the 4dr?
Hi-
I own a 91 ex with a munal 5speed trany and it is very fast! It does have a tweaked version of the american si engine. I was actualy wondering if any one might know whos red 4dr this is.
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<td>http://home.bendcable.com/travis118/...ner1_small.jpg</td>
<td>http://home.bendcable.com/travis118/...uner_small.jpg</td>
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That is the sweetest body kit I have ever seen for the 4dr. If anyone knew some links for a kit like this one I would greatly apreciate it!
-Thx
Dennis
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Oh yeah!! That is sweet..and my color too...charcoal grey!
Me like!!! yahoooooooo!!
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI & other mods which only add weight ;)
Well...now if I wasn't sick I could drive to PA to get that motor! *coff* *coff* - Hopefully by this weekend 91zc will only have one motor for his car and I will have two! ;)
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 4g88civicS:
Oh yeah, to all of you 4 door owners out there, a great upgrade that shouldnt cost much is integra seats. i've had mine for about 3 months now and i love em!!! definetly one of the better things i've done to my car!
Adam
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Hey Adam, how do the Integra seats fit? I know Eric had a hard time getting Integra seats in his hatch....did you swap the rails over from the Civic seats?
What did you do about the motorized seatbelts? Did you just bolt that to the Integra seats?
I would really like some upgraded seats. My DX seats are OK, but man my back and legs gets sore on a long trip http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/frown.gif
Thanks for any info dude!
Look out all you hatch owners! The 4-doors are coming!!!! Muhahaahahahahhahahaa http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/wink.gif
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by daddys1:
check this one out http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...5591996422.jpg
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...2929533344.jpg
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Pretty cool. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Just not my style. I am not into the big wheels and bodykits on the sedans. JMO http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 91zc:
Pretty cool. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif Just not my style. I am not into the big wheels and bodykits on the sedans. JMO http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Yeah...I am with you dude...I just want my DX black (faded to grey) stock bumpers painted to match the car and some 5-spoke Integra 15" rims or '99-00 15" Si rims and I will be pretty happy. I do like the nice subtle spoiler on it.
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My next project is getting a jdm front end and one piece headlights. http://www.hostboard.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Then maybe some interior stuff and a paintjob.
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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Hey sstanley, give me your email address and i'll give you an extensive "go through" on how i did it, unless everyone else would like to hear.Cause i'm at school right now and dont have time for a full post. They weren't as hard as i expected to be, just took a little thinking on my part. SO let me know whats up.
Adam
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"I need 2 of the big bottles...by tonight!"
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 4g88civicS:
Hey sstanley, give me your email address and i'll give you an extensive "go through" on how i did it, unless everyone else would like to hear.Cause i'm at school right now and dont have time for a full post. They weren't as hard as i expected to be, just took a little thinking on my part. SO let me know whats up.
Adam
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Hey man, send me an email too. I would like to know how you did it also.
[email protected]
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1991 Civic 4dr
B16A
a bunch of other mods
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Thanks a lot Adam - [email protected]
This is one in the near future mod that I would really like to do!
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-Shawn
91 DX 4-door
AEM CAI & other mods which only add weight ;)
Well...now if I wasn't sick I could drive to PA to get that motor! *coff* *coff* - Hopefully by this weekend 91zc will only have one motor for his car and I will have two! ;)
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Hey guys, how about i just make a new post when i get home about how to put the seats in? that would probably work better for everyone. i'll post around 5 oclockish. until then...
Adam
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"I need 2 of the big bottles...by tonight!"
~Brain Spillner~
hahaha
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Hey daddys1-
Sweet picture but where in the world did you get them from do you have a link that you could give me? Or do you know what the kit is called/manufactured by so that I can look it up.
Thx
Peace
Dennis
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yea,,,this guy is on the yahoo 4 door site,,he says he has his own shop check out his page http://shadowviper.hopto.org/
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Hey all yall-
I love to finaly see all the 4dr civic owners to come out from within the shadows. I am a website designer so if enuff people send me an email or post something saying its a good Idea. I would love to do it. But Id need alot of good mods for the 4dr and people with good pictures. Id even get serious and buy a domain. Tell me what yall think!!! Oh here is a site im working on right now click here to see what im capable of doing. Oh yeah before I go Im going to share some bad ass head lights that i found.
http://www.quadconversions.com/image...CRX_Bumper.jpg
Its pretty sweet huh? I have been told the head lights would easily fit the civic but the bumper might take some work.
peace
Dennis
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Hello all you 4G-4DR owners.
Im starting a website. Go here to check it out and give me as much as u can.
Thanks
Dennis
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