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Do you think our JRSC car's would benefit from this? Or would we still be better off using the 3" short ram?
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Personally I think you'd be better off with 3" intakes. I love my Injen.
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It looks that they are copying a design off some other japanese companies...ARC has a similar design to AEM's...I always thought it was hype??...but I guess time will only tell if AEM is trying to capture some of the JDM rice market or maybe it really does make HP???...after seeing the dyno sheets from some AEM intakes one could only hope that this is the real deal and will make some real HP?...I wont be buying until I see some dyno sheets [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Personally, I've always liked AEM products, but this is one product that I don't think would live up to what AEM has built it up to be. The flow is still limited by the small diameter portion of the piping that would be attached to the throttle body. I'd stick with my 3" shorty.
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I'm calling bullshit. I mean, c'mon, give me a break.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I had their original intake with the bypass valve and it created way too many headaches (bypass valve broke twice and almost got sucked into my manifold once and the tube almost rubbed through my AC lines).
Comptech Ice box is the best, IMHO.
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I think there are 2 things that the JRSC needs:
Short intake length, and cold air. Oh yea, and a 3" intake...
The Comptech airbox is where it's at. Or a short ram. I don't think that this product is going to do anything for us.
Chuck
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor=""><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BadAss:
I'm calling bullshit. I mean, c'mon, give me a break.
Maybe I'm just bitter because I had their original intake with the bypass valve and it created way too many headaches (bypass valve broke twice and almost got sucked into my manifold once and the tube almost rubbed through my AC lines).
Comptech Ice box is the best, IMHO.</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'll second that - My AEM intake *did* rub through my AC lines, $600 later... grrrrr
And my AEM FPR blew its diaphragm last year, nearly hydrolocking the engine. To their credit, they did pay for everything ($500+ ) but still...
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I ended up making my own 3" cold air in-the-fender intake.
I used a short ram for a long time though.
There's a recent issue of HondaTuning that tested 8 different intakes on the RSX. Though the short rams showed superior numbers in flow testing, they said the dyno numbers of the cold air intakes more than compensated. In fact, the AEM intake ended up number one adding some 20 hp I think.
note: I hate AEM for the runaround they gave me when I was inquiring into buying their engine management system, and I'm avoiding buying any of their products.
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20 HP??? Hehehe... they must be blowing some NOS in w/ that cold air!!! [img]smile.gif[/img]
20HP my ass! (Reddelsol, I'm not busting your chops, just remarking on how ridiculous the magazines are... )
Chuck
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Actually they recorded 20.7 over stock [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]
Looks pretty legit to me. Here's some of the comparisons. They did road tests as well as dyno tests. (if I got any numbers messed up, it's probably cause I visually hand copied from the magazine)
stock intake
outside temp 87F
underhood temp 116.1
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 122
hp 157.8
hp power over stock n/a
torque 119.9
tq over stock n/a
stock wth K&N drop in filter
outside temp 87
underhood temp 115.8
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 121
power 157.7
hp power over stock -0.1
torque 119.9
tq over stock 0.0
AEM short ram
outside temp 86
underhood temp 110.0
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 111
power 163.1
hp power over stock 5.4
torque 124.8
tq over stock 4.9
K&N Typhoon
outside temp 87
underhood temp 116.0
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.89
Intake temp 112.5
hp 165.1
hp power over stock 7.4
torque 123
tq over stock 3.1
Jackson Racing
outside temp 87
underhood temp 118.3
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 114.5
hp 165.5
hp power over stock 7.8
torque 124.1
tq over stock 4.2
DC short ram
outside temp 87
underhood temp 108.0
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.89
Intake temp 113.5
hp 166.9
hp power over stock 9.2
torque 122.4
tq over stock 2.5
Injen
outside temp 87
underhood temp 113.5
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 113.5
hp 166.9
hp power over stock 9.2
torque 122.9
tq over stock 3.0
DC CAI
outside temp 87
underhood temp 120.5
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 97.0
hp 177.4
hp power over stock 19.7
torque 125.6
tq over stock 5.7
AEM CAI
outside temp 87
underhood temp 120.8
coolant temp 204
Long term fuel correction -0.11
Intake temp 96.5
hp 178.4
hp power over stock 20.7
torque 125.2
tq over stock 5.3
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Hmm they must have used the same dyno that JR used when JR used to claim that the base jrsc kit on a type R yields 240whp (or something like that).
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Food for thought....
One thing we supercharged users have to remember is that these "frequency impulses" on intakes that create more effecient cylinder filling on naturally aspirated cars do not work on ours due to the supercharger. The blades of the blower cancels out freq waves in or out of the engine through the intake stream, even in bypass mode.
So unless CFM is increased by these kits, there claimed "gimicks" won't work on us.
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I spoke to an AEM engineer at the SEMA show... he said that the new V2 system would NOT be beneficial to a Supercharged engine. It is designed for N/A applications only.
